Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Sher, We wondered the same thing too. We tend to switch out whole grain pasta with regular from time to time. As for the breads etc. We tend to chose whole grains because we simply like thm better. If we have to we chose white breads when eating out. ~ boo to you wrote: happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a terrible virus!) so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? where's the whole wheat? recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? in a word, eek. ~sher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 LOL, I don't think you missed anything I'm not really sure what to say about the regular pasta (which recipe is that anyway? I know most of them use WW), except that I would switch it for WW if I could. As to the corn tortillas, I think that's considered approved because its made out of corn, not white flour, and corn is on the approved list. Light sour cream and even light cheese is okay in moderation. You'll notice in the " Snacks " section, one of his listed snacks is an apple and low fat cheese. You definitely do have to have some fats in your diet. I can tell you from personal experience, I was making recipes out of this book exclusively, and got down to about 20-21% bodyfat. I will agree wholeheartedly with you though, between the BFL book and the EFL book, Bill does seem to loosen his restrictions. > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > terrible virus!) > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > where's the whole wheat? > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > in a word, eek. > > ~sher > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I've been debating about whether to get this book, but after this: " I was making recipes out of this book exclusively, and got down to about 20-21% bodyfat " I'm sold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I have wondered this as well, as I LOVE the book and have made a few of the YUMMY recipes and am starting to use it a ton starting tomorrow when I really commit myself, but I have/had read a few reviews before I bought it on amazon about how some people think it is garbage because he calls for some processed foods in there when the plan was supposed to restrict most of that stuff. Then again, those same people are the ones that keep saying don't eat any meat, meat is bad it will cause you heartattacks and blah blah blah. I personaly think that he was just trying to maybe make it a little more livable and easier for people to stick to it, but I dunno. I too got a bit confused when I saw corn tortillas and tri-colored pasta and egg noodles instead of whole wheat stuff and alot more bread stuff than I would have thought. > > > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > > terrible virus!) > > > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > > where's the whole wheat? > > > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > > > in a word, eek. > > > > ~sher > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I think that the people who are the most successful at getting and staying lean are the people who can do it the longest. EFL is all about the " for life " part of it. Anybody can follow a strict diet for a few weeks and then quit and regain it all. And the more restrictive and fanatical you are about the diet, the more likely you WILL quit and regain it all. In the end, the person who ate the corn tortillas and the light sour cream but *totally* embraced the lifestyle, loved it, and kept it up for years, will achieve much more dramatic results than the person who lived on chicken and broccoli and oatmeal for eight weeks and then said the hell with it. Now, if you're totally driven to lose fat as quickly as humanly possible and win the contest, you're probably better off sticking to the original authorized foods list. But if you want to get really lean, enjoy the process, and actually live that way forever, you should seriously entertain the idea of having an occasional bread crumb or shot of whipped cream. The earth won't topple off its axis or anything, and you can still have great abs. > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > terrible virus!) > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > where's the whole wheat? > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > in a word, eek. > > ~sher > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Regular pasta in the in an appropriate portion or white bread is not going to make or break your results. Whole unprocessed foods are always a better choice though. The key here is that its a BETTER CHOICE. Whole grain food have a lower glycemic index for one thing but the glycemic index of a carb is lowered when you combine it with fats or proteins anyway. If you are eating a piece of bread by itself (which you should never eat a carb w/out a protein) then the glycemic index is what it is for bread. When you combine it with protein and whatever fat it may contain, then its going to be lower. That's just one reason for picking whole grain bread or pasta over regular. However, its not going to make or break your results unless you are a woman about about 15% bf and trying to get lower. Then focusing on details like this may be where you need to go with your program. Deanna eating for life - huh? happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a terrible virus!) so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? where's the whole wheat? recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? in a word, eek. ~sher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Another good one to check out is Cooking Light. They have a TON of recipes every month, but you have to watch them. They are *light* and not always healthful. What I mean is you will see a lot more oil, white flour, turkey sausage, etc. but better for you of course than their full-fat counterparts. Some of the recipes in that publication are BFL friendly right off the bat, some need to be modified, and some are better saved for free day. > > I've been debating about whether to get this book, but after this: " I > was making recipes out of this book > exclusively, and got down to about 20-21% bodyfat " > > I'm sold! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 > > I've been debating about whether to get this book, but after this: " I was making recipes out of this book > exclusively, and got down to about 20-21% bodyfat " > > I'm sold! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Dang!!! That clinches it for me, too. DH and I were browsing the book yesterday, and DSD16 even said the food looked good and edible. Of course DH and DSD are both so skinny, they don't need diet foods. Good food will be very good for them, tho Good Luck to all with keeping on track....I will be right there along with y'all! BJ in Idaho > > I've been debating about whether to get this book, but after this: " I was making recipes out of this book > exclusively, and got down to about 20-21% bodyfat " > > I'm sold! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Waittaminute--the reason corn tortillas are in there is because they are a whole grain, as far as I can tell. They are not evil processed carbs. Whole corn. And in the original book, he uses regular pasta as a carb. Yes, it's less nutritious, but if you don't do it all the time it's not such a big deal. Yes, it is processed, but it's not wonderbread fergawdsakes. : ) Best Regards, beth Re: eating for life - huh? I have wondered this as well, as I LOVE the book and have made a few of the YUMMY recipes and am starting to use it a ton starting tomorrow when I really commit myself, but I have/had read a few reviews before I bought it on amazon about how some people think it is garbage because he calls for some processed foods in there when the plan was supposed to restrict most of that stuff. Then again, those same people are the ones that keep saying don't eat any meat, meat is bad it will cause you heartattacks and blah blah blah. I personaly think that he was just trying to maybe make it a little more livable and easier for people to stick to it, but I dunno. I too got a bit confused when I saw corn tortillas and tri-colored pasta and egg noodles instead of whole wheat stuff and alot more bread stuff than I would have thought. > > > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > > terrible virus!) > > > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > > where's the whole wheat? > > > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > > > in a word, eek. > > > > ~sher > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Our family has been using the EFL and BFL books for a few years now. EFL is great for families. It has a lot recipes anyone can live with IMO. So many people in our country are living almost solely off of fast food, and it makes a fantastic transition into healthy eating habits. > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > terrible virus!) > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > where's the whole wheat? > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > in a word, eek. > > ~sher > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think those people over at Amazon that wrote some of the negative reviews are a little nutty lol for one they are all obsessed with the fact that he talks about supplements so much..i'm thinking to myself if you don't want to take supplements DON'T you don't HAVE to. And then I have to agree that a few processed things in the book are still ALOT better than eating smart ones dinners strictly or lowfat pringles and fatfree hotdogs with lowfat buns all in the same meal lol. I noticed when reading the reviews for the books that there are deffinatly some bitter people out there. They complain that the BFL book eating plan is to restrictive, yet then say the EFL book has to much processed stuff and artificial sweeteners. I guess you can't win! > > > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where everyone has a > > terrible virus!) > > > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire myself), i > > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the read, > > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm looking > > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer amazement -- > > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this all ok? > > where's the whole wheat? > > > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting things too > > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he even > > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) pasta! now, > > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- did i > > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > > > in a word, eek. > > > > ~sher > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Just have to add that I thought it was funny that someone on the amazon reviews flipped out over the fact that one of the breakfast recipes was two 'fried' eggs and some whole grain toast. They are not really what I would consider fried lol I mean yes they are cooked in the frying PAN but with non stick cooking spray. I don't get what is so overly bad about that one. > > > > > > happy new year, y'all, from the house of contagion (where > everyone has a > > > terrible virus!) > > > > > > so, to start the new year off right (and to further inspire > myself), i > > > borrowed " eating for life " from the library. i'm enjoying the > read, > > > though i must say i am a little confused here. for example, i'm > looking > > > at bill's recipe for " mom's chicken enchiladas " with sheer > amazement -- > > > corn tortillas? green enchilada sauce? light sour cream? is this > all ok? > > > where's the whole wheat? > > > > > > recipes like these make me wonder whether i am interpreting > things too > > > strictly. maybe i just need to s t e p a w a y from the book. he > even > > > has recipes that are with ::sigh:: regular (non whole wheat) > pasta! now, > > > all of this is easily remedied, obviously, but i just wonder -- > did i > > > somehow miss something about white flour products, etc? > > > > > > in a word, eek. > > > > > > ~sher > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Just commenting in general - no response to anyone in particular on this thread .. I have always thought that the BFL book contains the guidelines for learning how to eat right(and doing your first 12 week challenge or more when in weightloss mode)and when you are at or around your goal then the EFL book was to broaden your eating range to incorporate BFL as a way of life (WOL)- so not just another 12 week 'diet' like other diets out there. So RFL to me is like an extention of recipes to show you that yes you can eat well but trim down the excess at the same time. Eating healthy doesnt mean some rye crisps and tuna for the rest of your life! Those that choose to use some of the EFL recipes when just starting out need to be really keen on their portion sizes or they may find it might slow down their progress. Its too bad Bill didnt consider putting in the calories/WW points, or the like so that it would draw other people to using it. It wouldve been a much bigger seller IMHO if he had. joni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 You can find the calories for each meal listed online at www.efl.com <http://www.efl.com/> (I think that's right) Jadey :-) Jade Ward SPOILT by J 0421 848 110 Re: eating for life - huh? Just commenting in general - no response to anyone in particular on this thread .. I have always thought that the BFL book contains the guidelines for learning how to eat right(and doing your first 12 week challenge or more when in weightloss mode)and when you are at or around your goal then the EFL book was to broaden your eating range to incorporate BFL as a way of life (WOL)- so not just another 12 week 'diet' like other diets out there. So RFL to me is like an extention of recipes to show you that yes you can eat well but trim down the excess at the same time. Eating healthy doesnt mean some rye crisps and tuna for the rest of your life! Those that choose to use some of the EFL recipes when just starting out need to be really keen on their portion sizes or they may find it might slow down their progress. Its too bad Bill didnt consider putting in the calories/WW points, or the like so that it would draw other people to using it. It wouldve been a much bigger seller IMHO if he had. joni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 >> You can find the calories for each meal listed online at www.efl.com > <http://www.efl.com/> (I think that's right) Nope ..that link takes you to some english language site and on the eatingforlife website (http://www.eatingforlife.com) you can only get some nutritional stats if you own the book - mustve been an after thought they had when people were disappointed they didnt include the stats in the book ... joni ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *who not only likes big pretty pictures of the foods in recipe/cookbooks, but also the nutritional/calorie stats for reference and didnt buy EatingForLife because of this* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 I think I read somewhere that the reason they aren't in the book was because Bill didn't want people to get so hung up on the calories. Some people really get hung up on that and try to get it as low as they can, and it isn't healthy for them. Like, you know, the person who is working out all the time and eats 1200 calories a day, and can't understand why they aren't loosing weight? No doubt the calorie information is useful, but it can also be harmful to some people if they put too much emphasis on it. That is one of the beauties of the BFL program is that it involves no calorie counting. I mean, not directly anyway. On 1/4/07, jgrrl2 <no_reply > wrote: > > > >> You can find the calories for each meal listed online at www.efl.com > > <http://www.efl.com/> (I think that's right) > > Nope ..that link takes you to some english language site and on the > eatingforlife website (http://www.eatingforlife.com) you can only get > some nutritional stats if you own the book - mustve been an after > thought they had when people were disappointed they didnt include the > stats in the book ... > > joni > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > *who not only likes big pretty pictures of the foods in > recipe/cookbooks, but also the nutritional/calorie stats for reference > and didnt buy EatingForLife because of this* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Oops sorry. I even checked that you know and still typed efl instead of the full eatingforlife I blame the heat :-) Jade Ward SPOILT by J Tanning ~ Waxing ~ Nails 0421 848 110 Re: eating for life - huh? >> You can find the calories for each meal listed online at www.efl.com > <http://www.efl. <http://www.efl.com/> com/> (I think that's right) Nope ..that link takes you to some english language site and on the eatingforlife website (http://www.eatingfo <http://www.eatingforlife.com> rlife.com) you can only get some nutritional stats if you own the book - mustve been an after thought they had when people were disappointed they didnt include the stats in the book ... joni ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *who not only likes big pretty pictures of the foods in recipe/cookbooks, but also the nutritional/calorie stats for reference and didnt buy EatingForLife because of this* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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