Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Janice, I don't know anything about creatine and have never used it. I use colostrum, which has lots of growth factors, increases muscle mass, and is 35% immunoglobulins and has a positive effect on the immune system and some people claim it can treat cancer, something I haven't looked into. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 Heidi, anyone... Since posting this message yesterday I have talked to the woman who prompted my question about Creatine. She said she uses Creatine only when she is in training for an event and it is used to rebuild the muscle and/or repair any damage. She has some health issues, possible sugar balance (pre diabetic??) and I'm wanting to steer her in the right direction for her best health as well as fitness. I know there are pros and cons to everything and I would really appreciate a reply related to nutrition and health and the use of Creatine. Thanks, Janice > Since there are a few of you who seem to be into weight training and > nutrition, can you give me some pros and cons on creatine. I had heard > that it can be harmful and it was not advised for good health. Can > someone direct me to a link that can provide some data for reference? > > Why does someone want to use it anyway? Is it to build more muscle mass? > And if it is harmful, is there a healthier alternative? > > TIA, > Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Quoting ChrisMasterjohn@...: > I don't know anything about creatine and have never used it. I use > colostrum, which has lots of growth factors, increases muscle mass, and > is 35% > immunoglobulins and has a positive effect on the immune system and some > people claim > it can treat cancer, something I haven't looked into. This reminds me that I've been meaning to get back to you about your question regarding IGF-I and its alleged link to cancer. I haven't researched the issue enough to have an educated opinion, but that's never stopped me before. Intuitively, it makes sense that something that promotes growth in general would promote the growth of existing cancerous tumors disproportionately, since one of the defining characteristics of cancer is that it doesn't know when to stop growing. In fact, there is currently research into using IGF-I inhibitors as a tool for fighting cancer. It seems like a bit of a leap to go from that to a conclusion that it can cause cancer in healthy people, although it is conceivable that it could " cause " cancer in the sense of accelerating the growth of tumors that might otherwise grow too slowly to become a serious threat before something else finishes the job. On the other hand, here's an abstract alleging a protective effect of IGF-I against stroke: http://tinyurl.com/sa6k http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12944100 & dopt=Abstract To be fair, the same person has published articles touting the benefits of downregulating IGF-I production. You should be able to find them by searching the PubMed archives. -- Berg bberg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2003 Report Share Posted October 26, 2003 --- In , Berg <bberg@c...> wrote: > > This reminds me that I've been meaning to get back to you about your > question regarding IGF-I and its alleged link to cancer. I haven't > researched the issue enough to have an educated opinion, but that's never > stopped me before. Intuitively, it makes sense that something that promotes > growth in general would promote the growth of existing cancerous tumors > disproportionately, since one of the defining characteristics of cancer is > that it doesn't know when to stop growing. In fact, there is currently > research into using IGF-I inhibitors as a tool for fighting cancer. It > seems like a bit of a leap to go from that to a conclusion that it can > cause cancer in healthy people, although it is conceivable that it > could " cause " cancer in the sense of accelerating the growth of tumors that > might otherwise grow too slowly to become a serious threat before something > else finishes the job. I agree. Soy has growth inhibitors, which inspire the interest in it for cancer treatment. But it doesn't necessarily follow that we should load up on soy for the growth inhibitors to *prevent* cancer. After all, cancers feed on glucose, but so do we. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Has anyone had fast, positive results using Creatine? Adam and Spencer just started it and after say a week or less Spencer said his hands are no longer jaming up. His words not mine. I hope it keeps up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I started noticing a difference in about 10 days in my hands and in about 20 days in my legs. I really believe in this stuff. Cathleen in Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Cathleen, Did you use the powder or capsule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 , Thanks for asking about my youngest son. Lyman is 9 months old and so far, so good. We just had our Great Strides walk here in KC on Saturday and raised some money for his cause. He spent the first 100 days in the NICU at Children's Mercy, had 3 abdominal surgeries and we almost lost him twice. Since then, he as come home and only gone back for one 24 hour stay. So, I would say we are doing good. Between his CF and my CMT we are kept pretty busy. However, our family has learned to get the most out of each day! Merrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Oh Merrill you could write a book about what it means to be a parent. Your children are so blessed to have you. I will keep your baby in my prayers if that is okay? Thank you for sharing your family with us at . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I use a 5 gram capsule, three times a day under a doctor's supervision. Cathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Hi Catheleen, Amazing your post...I've never heard that Creatine is so good like that...a doctor in Brazil told me that L-Carnitine is also good for us....but I did not try it longer enough. Now, when did you started noticed difference, what exactly did you mean? You felt much stronger? Cathleen, can you let me know more about it please. It was in a powder form or liquid and how much do you take a day please... I feel so bad right now, weak, no much energy ...and to be honest I would be willing to try anything, anything. I would like to thank you so much in advance for your advice. Best wishes, Joana in London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Merril, The creatine I was on was a powder that I added to a drink everyday. It was just a very little bit and was only used for 12 weeks. My neurologist followed me while I was using the creatine. I'm sure long time use is not good, but it was used with exercise for 12 weeks and that was it. It did work well and helped build my muscles. We were using this as a research project just to see if it would help CMT patients gain muscle mass back. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hi Kay, Do you know why your Creatine levels were low? Are your muscles leaking it into your blood stream? How hard do you work out? Have you asked your doc what amount you could try? One CMT study done on Exercise, CMT and Creatine had participants taking 5g of it. But in the end, the Creatine was not beneficial. The following may be of interest: - " In humans, typically half of stored creatine originates from food (mainly from meat and fish). However, endogenous synthesis of creatine in the liver is sufficient for normal activities. For example, even though vegetables do not contain creatine, vegetarians do not suffer from creatine deficiency [1]. Vegetarian creatine can be obtained via chemical synthesis using plant-derived amino acids. " See this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine ~ Gretchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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