Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 > > Do any one of you know if this actually exists and where to find it? I've used synthetic aldehydes before (C-9, C-10, C-11, C-12, etc) and have read that many aldehydes are produced naturally in many things but I don't know if they are actually available as isolates. Thanks. > Yes, they do exist in the natural form. Someone will be joining the Guild in a month or so who makes them. I was just speaking with him the other day about this. He will have complete instructions on how to store and fix the natural aldehydes and isolates he's creating. For instance, IIRC, C-11 needs to be fixed with peru balsam or, when added to a blend, it is attracted (my word, not his, I didn't take notes) to ketones, and can ruin a blend overnight. Another aldehyde needs frankincense as a fixative. I didn't take notes when he spoke, so I'm not sure of all of the ramifications of not fixing the aldehydes, but his website will be a great resource for natural perfumers. All my best, Anya http://AnyasGarden.com http://NaturalPerfumers.com http://PerfumeClasses.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 This is a fascinating thread and a fabulous update. Thanks. Aldehydes, with their retro-oily softness will add a great dimension to natural perfumery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 > Yes, they do exist in the natural form. Someone will be joining the > Guild in a month or so who makes them. I was just speaking with him the > other day about this. He will have complete instructions on how to store > and fix the natural aldehydes and isolates he's creating. For instance, > IIRC, C-11 needs to be fixed with peru balsam or, when added to a blend, > it is attracted (my word, not his, I didn't take notes) to ketones, and > can ruin a blend overnight. Another aldehyde needs frankincense as a > fixative. I didn't take notes when he spoke, so I'm not sure of all of > the ramifications of not fixing the aldehydes, but his website will be a > great resource for natural perfumers. Thank you Anya. That is wonderful to know. Aldehydes are pretty much to only synths I actually enjoy working with. I guess because it's not trying to replace anything yet add another dimension to perfume. In my experience with them it was like adding glitter to an already colorful painting. If I didn't find them I was thinking about using small amounts of lime, sweet orange, and bergamot since I know these have a good amount of aldehydes in them but it would still be best to have them in isolated form. I am excited about being able to obtain them in natural form. > > All my best, > Anya > http://AnyasGarden.com > http://NaturalPerfumers.com > http://PerfumeClasses.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010  .. > Yes, they do exist in the natural form. Someone will be joining the Guild in a month or so who makes them. I was just speaking with him the other day about this. He will have complete instructions on how to store and fix the natural aldehydes and isolates he's creating. For instance, IIRC, C-11 needs to be fixed with peru balsam or, when added to a blend, it is attracted (my word, not his, I didn't take notes) to ketones, and can ruin a blend overnight. Another aldehyde needs frankincense as a fixative. I didn't take notes when he spoke, so I'm not sure of all of the ramifications of not fixing the aldehydes, but his website will be a great resource for natural perfumers. All my best, Anya http://AnyasGarden. com http://NaturalPerfu mers.com http://PerfumeClass es.com  Will the website be posted on the Guild website, or could it perhaps be posted here too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 okay, so i admit, i am a purist at heart; this will be excitment for my nose whilst overcoming resistance in my brain. who says aromatics aren't spiritual? i am most excited, mr P, for your perfumed path to bear guidance! much light all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 > > Do any one of you know if this actually exists and where to find it? I've used synthetic aldehydes before (C-9, C-10, C-11, C-12, etc) and have read that many aldehydes are produced naturally in many things but I don't know if they are actually available as isolates. Thanks. > the [c-12 mna aldehyde] is not found naturally, however [c-12 lauric] is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yes, they do exist in the natural form. Someone will be joining the Guild in a month or so who makes them. I was just speaking with him the other day about this. He will have complete instructions on how to store and fix the natural aldehydes and isolates he's creating. For instance, IIRC, C-11 needs to be fixed with peru balsam or, when added to a blend, it is attracted (my word, not his, I didn't take notes) to ketones, and can ruin a blend overnight. Another aldehyde needs frankincense as a fixative. I didn't take notes when he spoke, so I'm not sure of all of the ramifications of not fixing the aldehydes, but his website will be a great resource for natural perfumers. All my best, Anya Hi Anya, Any news on when your friend my be joining the group? I am so curious about what he will present. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Did I miss your friends website somewhere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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