Re: Fwd: [Autism-Mercury] Baby Teeth Study Pub...

[Guest guest]

had 6 lots in his first 14 months....the last 2 being the

week before and week after his MMR. Think i know why we have such a

gut buggy, yeasty kid.I wish i had known then what i know

now....sigh .. hindsight is a marvellous thing.

Helen x

>

> I would have thought more than once. Tom had antibiotics twice

before

> his 2nd birthday and I thought that was awful.

> SARA

>

> Re: Re: Fwd: [Autism-Mercury]

Baby

> Teeth Study Pub...

>

> Indeed, ye are correct, I'd even answered it previously...there

are 40%

> who said their infant had had antibiotics *several times* during

the

> first year but I wonder if that would qualify as a high rate

according

> to the study? I would be more interested to hear something like:

less

> than 5 times or more than 5 times. I'd think more than 5 rounds of

> antibiotics would constitute a high level but then I think maybe

that

> might be too low.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/05/2007 13:16:47 GMT Standard Time,

> olivers4@... writes:

> Hi Darla

>

> I remember answering a question on this before. Its in the Polls

(on

> left side of page) and about the 5th qu down. If you click on it

you

> see the info about frequency of antibiotics given in first year.

Tou

> can add your vote!!

>

> Helen x

>

> >

> > Following this, I would be curious to know how many of our kids

> had *higher

> > usage of antibiotics* in infancy? I wonder what the clinical

> criteria were

> > for *higher usage*? never had any antibiotics till he was

> well past a

> > year, I think he was 18 months or so when he had the first ones

> and then he's

> > just had them 3 times in his life.

> > Can someone set up a survey? I don't know how to do it!

> > Darla

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 17/05/2007 01:01:54 GMT Standard Time,

> Mum231ASD@

> > writes:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 16/05/2007 21:56:49 GMT Standard Time,

> sbernard@ a

> > messag

> >

> > Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism

> versus controls

> >

> > JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS.

> >

> > Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University,

> Tempe,

> > Arizona, USA.

>

[Guest guest]

Awww

and snap for the vaccinations he had and filling I had when pregnant and the

crap I ate, but it doesn’t get us very far dwelling on all that.

SARA

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Re: Fwd: [Autism-Mercury] Baby Teeth Study Pub...

had 6 lots in his first 14 months....the last 2 being the

week before and week after his MMR. Think i know why we have such a

gut buggy, yeasty kid.I wish i had known then what i know

now....sigh .. hindsight is a marvellous thing.

Helen x

>

> I would have thought more than once. Tom had antibiotics twice

before

> his 2nd birthday and I thought that was awful.

> SARA

>

> Re: Re: Fwd: [Autism-Mercury]

Baby

> Teeth Study Pub...

>

> Indeed, ye are correct, I'd even answered it previously...there

are 40%

> who said their infant had had antibiotics *several times* during

the

> first year but I wonder if that would qualify as a high rate

according

> to the study? I would be more interested to hear something like:

less

> than 5 times or more than 5 times. I'd think more than 5 rounds of

> antibiotics would constitute a high level but then I think maybe

that

> might be too low.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/05/2007 13:16:47 GMT Standard Time,

> olivers4@... writes:

> Hi Darla

>

> I remember answering a question on this before. Its in the Polls

(on

> left side of page) and about the 5th qu down. If you click on it

you

> see the info about frequency of antibiotics given in first year.

Tou

> can add your vote!!

>

> Helen x

>

> >

> > Following this, I would be curious to know how many of our kids

> had *higher

> > usage of antibiotics* in infancy? I wonder what the clinical

> criteria were

> > for *higher usage*? never had any antibiotics till he was

> well past a

> > year, I think he was 18 months or so when he had the first ones

> and then he's

> > just had them 3 times in his life.

> > Can someone set up a survey? I don't know how to do it!

> > Darla

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 17/05/2007 01:01:54 GMT Standard Time,

> Mum231ASD@

> > writes:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 16/05/2007 21:56:49 GMT Standard Time,

> sbernard@ a

> > messag

> >

> > Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism

> versus controls

> >

> > JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS.

> >

> > Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University,

> Tempe,

> > Arizona, USA.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Good lord, Margaret, that's awful! Poor baby. I'd heard to many stories like yours prior to giving birth, it's appalling what our babies are put through when they are at their most vulnerable. Was there actually anything wrong with H? I know of several babies who were given antibiotics for no apparent reason whatsoever, just as a precaution.

No, he was never out of my sight/arms the first 24 hours of his life (in the hospital). Then we went home and I've never been apart from him since then.

I was a complete control freak about the hospital - we even left AMA because I didn't even want staff around him. I even hired someone to come with me during the labour and after his birth to keep the needles/suction/IV's, etc away from him!!! (I told her to grab my baby and run out the door if they threatend intervention, lol) As it turned out, my labour was only a couple of hours and he was born as soon as I got to the hospital so there were no worries about intervention. I have very very strong feelings about intervention at birth and was hypervigilant about it to say the least.

I also knew that I didn't want him to have antibiotics in infancy - if only I'd known that I shouldn't have given him the DPT shots....at least he didn't get the MMR. Having said that, I know of two completely unvaxed kids who have ASD, so there you go....no use beating myself up over what I did, as Sara said.

enough rambling, gotta get Sir dressed!

Darla

Darla,are you sure he didn't have any as a newborn? I know he had early health issues.When I got my son's hospital file I found out they put him on 2 antibiotics at birth and gave him a lumbar puncture (several botched attempts). They never asked for permission nor informed me afterwards.Margaret

[Guest guest]

Darla,

Henry was 7 weeks early and I had lost my waters five days earlier.

But there actually was no infection found, so he didn't need

antibiotics.

Margaret

>

>

> Hi,

> Good lord, Margaret, that's awful! Poor baby. I'd heard to many

stories

> like yours prior to giving birth, it's appalling what our babies

are put through

> when they are at their most vulnerable. Was there actually

anything wrong

> with H? I know of several babies who were given antibiotics for

no apparent

> reason whatsoever, just as a precaution.

>

> No, he was never out of my sight/arms the first 24 hours of his

life (in the

> hospital). Then we went home and I've never been apart from him

since then.

>

>

> I was a complete control freak about the hospital - we even left

AMA because

> I didn't even want staff around him. I even hired someone to come

with me

> during the labour and after his birth to keep the

needles/suction/IV's, etc

> away from him!!! (I told her to grab my baby and run out the door

if they

> threatend intervention, lol) As it turned out, my labour was only

a couple of hours

> and he was born as soon as I got to the hospital so there were no

worries

> about intervention. I have very very strong feelings about

intervention at

> birth and was hypervigilant about it to say the least.

>

> I also knew that I didn't want him to have antibiotics in infancy -

if only

> I'd known that I shouldn't have given him the DPT shots....at least

he didn't

> get the MMR. Having said that, I know of two completely unvaxed

kids who

> have ASD, so there you go....no use beating myself up over what I

did, as Sara

> said.

>

> enough rambling, gotta get Sir dressed!

> Darla

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 17/05/2007 23:46:46 GMT Standard Time,

> m.collins9@... writes:

>

> Darla,

> are you sure he didn't have any as a newborn? I know he had early

> health issues.When I got my son's hospital file I found out they

put

> him on 2 antibiotics at birth and gave him a lumbar puncture

(several

> botched attempts). They never asked for permission nor informed me

> afterwards.

> Margaret

>