Re: NEW MEMBER - AL ADAMSON

[Guest guest]

Good to have you onboard Al. It will be wonderful to have someone so

experienced in the field to teach us a few things here and there. I started

learning perfumery about 1 year ago and worked with both synthetics and

naturals. The reason I chose to work with naturals 100% is because I enjoyed

them much more than synthetics. Synthetics to me felt cold and heartless where

essential oils and absolutes felt as if they had souls. I'm not trying to bring

down synthetics or anything but just wanted to express one of the main reasons I

chose to go all natural. With that in mind welcome to to group. I'm excited to

share my experiences with you and learn from you as well.

Eliam

[Guest guest]

Hi Natural Perfumers:

I'm Al on, a Professional Perfumer. I've been a Consumer Products Perfumer

for over 40 years (yes, I'm an old guy), at Procter & Gamble, The Dial Corp. and

now as Exec. V.P. - General Manager @ Creative Fragrances LTD. in Dallas, Texas.

Best Regards,

Al on

Welcome aboard! I'm looking forward to the exchange and to learning from it. I'm

a neophyte in this world of blending natural perfumes and come at it mostly as a

clinical psychologist interested in the experience of scent and perfumes. This

is a fascinating site with many generous contributors who are open and willing

to share their knowledge. I'm sure you will enjoy being here.

[Guest guest]

Hi Albert and welcome aboard!

It's good to see someone from the more " conventional " side of the

industry here to chat, but don't be so quick to assume what people do

and don't know.

There are a number of people here with a vast amount of knowledge about

essential oils and also biochemistry and medicine for that matter.

And many of us have also used synthetics in the past. The choice not to

is made for a vast variety of reasons, which include the simple

preference for the complexity and subltey of naturals scent wise, health

and sensititivty issues with many synthetics and envorimental choices.

I'm more than happy to talk and compare notes, but you really started

out on a rather arrogant and presumtuous note that I'm afraid got my

back up a tad.

It sounded as though you were a teacher walking into a room full of

happy but clueless kindergarten and that's really not appropriate.

This group was started after people got tired of continuously debating

the whole synthetic versus natural thing over and over, and I for one

have no interest in getting into it again at all.

I also belong to a number of conventional perfumery groups, and the vast

number of the perfumers there have very limited understanding of the

effect the substances they use in their perfumes on the human body.

Whereas here I find that most of those here who have reached a semi

professional level have gone to the trouble of educating themselves in

depth about the substances they work with. In fact most of them seem to

have come from a herbalism and aromatherapy background and have gone

from therapeutic to perfume.

Ambrosia

[Guest guest]

Al on

Creative Fragrances LTD.

www.creativefragrances.com

Hi Al,

Welcome to the group! I'm a soap maker who is just starting to work at perfume

making and this group is always a big help.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

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> Hi Natural Perfumers:

>

> I'm Al on, a Professional Perfumer.  I've been a Consumer Products

Perfumer for over 40 years (yes, I'm an old guy), at Procter & Gamble, The Dial

Corp. and now as Exec. V.P. - General Manager @ Creative Fragrances LTD. in

Dallas, Texas. 

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> I'm sure some Natural Product Perfumers are unaware of some of the reported

dangers of Essential Oils - true or not.  For instance, Cinnamon Leaf Oil is a

reported carcinogen and mutagen due to it's Safrole content, as is Mace Oil,

Nutmeg Oil, Ocotea Cymbarum Oil and of course, Sassafras Oil which is 90%

Safrole.

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Welcome aboard, Al.

One of the things I cherish about this group is the rich diversity of

experience, education, and professional backgrounds the members bring to the

table.

Check out the files section and search the messages for safety, dangers, etc...

Members here are not strangers to the discussions of essential oils and levels

of toxicity. You'll find many of us here are very familiar with safe dosing and

know which oils are simply best left alone (such as Sassafras).

Many here are also attune to the politics involved in some of the more

scientifically suspect and controversial toxicity claims.

Again, welcome aboard, and I hope you derive as much pleasure from this group as

I do~

Sincerely,

[Guest guest]

Very good, I am happy about expansion of consciousness this group gives

it really I have been looking for years and years. Each day I can

discuss matters with common people living in my physical environment,

which in fact I do still just because I think or feel that they need

some of mine attention. But being member of this group it really

vibrates with my spirit and soul.

You all be in joy,

Jana Eitner

[Guest guest]

Ambrosia,

Thank you for the comments.  Sorry if I sounded arrogant or presumptuous, I

just want to present a neutral professional voice to " all " the members:  some

as knowledgeable or more knowledgeable than me, from whom I can learn, and to

those needing information that I might be able to provide.

I stand guilty on the teacher comment:  as a Master Perfumer, I have taught a

number of Apprentice Perfumers over the years.   I also used to give Perfumery

101 Classes to our newbie Marketing folks at P & G and Dial.

My intent is not to discuss synthetic ingredients at all, but hopefully provide

additional insight into the world of Natural odoriferous substances.

Al on

[Guest guest]

No worries mate.

You can never have too much insight.

Ambrosia

[Guest guest]

Hi Adam,

So good to see you on board.

I have been quite concerned with the changes that are happening with

the IFRA and the impact that this is having not only on perfumery but

also on those who grow these wonderful botanicals for our use.

I can see the Rose fields of Isparta vanishing and it breaks my heart

to think of it. Many of us have relationships with the growers or have

visited the fields for ourselves.

I look forward to your posts.

Dorothy

Dorothy McCall Cert. Aroma.

Kingsbury Fragrances

The Royal York

3955 Bigelow Blvd. Ste. 907

Pittsburgh, PA. 15213

" Vibrating aromatic threads speak of the Divine

through tapestries of scent. "

www.sniffapaloozamagazine.com

[Guest guest]

[Guest guest]

Well, the EU would have a hard time banning it because Mellissa is the main

ingredient in europes favourite medicinal nerve tonic and household remedy:

" Klosterfrau Melissengeist " a delightful alcoholic extract of made

by italian monks for centuries!

Ambrosia

[Guest guest]

Albert, what is your favourite blend for perfumery? (not as in a

complete formular of course, just what natural ingredients do you

particularly love to work with, which have you found to be most

enchanting in perfume etc...)

When you are composing, do you work from the therapeutic angle of the

ingredients you are useing first, or the scent primarily?

My own present fascination is Vetiver....I've been fiddling with

different variations for nearly 2 years now....one commercial perfume so

far, and a number of other blends on my shelves...

It just fascinates me, particularly with citrus topnotes....

I have I think 5 different ones, but my favourite by far is an aged

Indonesian one that has a sensual depth to it that is just divine.

It also fascinates me because of it's therapeutic effects.

Ambrosia