Guest guest Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Good morning! This could explain my sons' high lead toxicity - he drinks the water and mouths all the toys! I wonder if you can get this type of refinishing done over here too? does anyone know of any companies? sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 hi, I am glad you found this interesting as well, we had our water tested but I should of made the water company test the bath water ! My son is the saem , he used to drink the water all the time! I am going to try & call the company & find out what is in it. If you type lead & bath tubs into google there si some info on there Lara x > > Good morning! > > This could explain my sons' high lead toxicity - he drinks the water and > mouths all the toys! I wonder if you can get this type of refinishing done over > here too? does anyone know of any companies? > > > sharon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Thanks will google away - and thanks for posting about this Lara, it could be the key to our lead mystery!! sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I could be wrong but I think MAndi stocks some lead testing kits > > > > Good morning! > > > > This could explain my sons' high lead toxicity - he drinks the > water and > > mouths all the toys! I wonder if you can get this type of > refinishing done over > > here too? does anyone know of any companies? > > > > > > sharon x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 , your right, lead testing kits at Mandi Mart 4 for £7.99 and 8 for £12.99 Thank you, Lara xx > > > > > > Good morning! > > > > > > This could explain my sons' high lead toxicity - he drinks the > > water and > > > mouths all the toys! I wonder if you can get this type of > > refinishing done over > > > here too? does anyone know of any companies? > > > > > > > > > sharon x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Yes, I have no recollection of it being mentioned.......not that that means it wasn't! Does anyone else know if it was covered? sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Hi, I wonder why it wasn't mentioned at the conference, may be I missed it. Lara x > > Thanks will google away - and thanks for posting about this Lara, it could > be the key to our lead mystery!! > > sharon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I tested mine using the lead tester and it was fine, it's repro bath - n looking but a modern manufacture. > > Hi all, just found this on the Thoughtful House yahoo group, any one > know any thing or had thier bath tested for lead? > > Lara x > > SAFETY ALERT! . . . > > New Source of Lead Poisoning Identified! > > (Reprinted from the June 1995 issue of the " Refinisher's News " ) > > Each day, children bathe in it, play in it and are washed carefully > > in it. Yet, according to a special report on the April 19, 1995 > > edition of Good Morning America, porcelain bathtubs are one of the > > America's most unexpected sources of lead exposure for children. > > Lead poisoning is currently considered the number one environmental > > > > health danger for children by the Centers for Disease Control. > > > > The nationally televised report cited a study of over 600 tubs > > conducted by Unique Refinishers of Atlanta, GA. The study found > that > > approximately 64 percent of the tubs tested had leachable lead on > > the surface. The tested tubs were of varying age and came from a > > wide range of domestic and import companies. > > > > Good Morning America's report focused on the family from a > > small town in Massachusetts. In spite of their efforts to identify > > and eliminate lead exposure in their home, their two children > > continued to have very high blood lead levels, requiring continuing > > medical treatments. The older child had a blood lead level of 47 > > micrograms per deciliter, while the second child (age 7 months) > > showed a level greater than 20 micrograms per deciliter. > > > > Aside from negligible lead in the household dust, the only source > of > > lead that could be identified in the children's environment at the > > time was the lead-based paint in their home. Even though it was not > > peeling, they spent over $15,000 to have it professionally removed. > > Away from home during the abatement process (2 months), the > > children's blood lead levels decreased to nearly normal levels (1 > to > > 9 micrograms per deciliter). Within a week after moving back into > > the now lead-free and lead safe home, both children again showed > > significant elevated blood lead levels. > > > > The family then purchased a home lead test kit called LeadCheck > > Swabs to test their ceramic ware. When her dishes tested negative > > for lead, Mrs. then used a LeadCheck Swab on the bathtub - > > the only remaining item in the house not yet tested for lead. The > > swab immediately turned pink, indicating the tub was leaching > > dangerous levels of lead. Every time the children bathed in the tub > > and played with their toys, they ingested lead simply by touching > > the tub and putting their wet fingers and toys in their mouths. The > > children ceased using the tub for their baths and within a few > > months their blood lead levels returned to nearly 10 micrograms per > > deciliter. > > > > When she first tested the bathtub, immediately > > called the LeadCheck Information Hotline to ask questions. The > > company was surprised by this potential lead source, and sent its > > top R & D specialist to investigate. Numerous follow-up tests > > confirmed the initial finding - the bathtub was the problem > > > > " When Mrs. called our information hotline, we couldn't > > believe that bathtubs could leach lead, " says Dr. Marcia Stone, > > president of HybriVet Systems, Inc. and inventor of LeadCheck > > Swabs. " Unfortunately, it's true, and thousands of children are at > > risk. " > > > > Continued testing of this and other bathtubs has confirmed the > > presence of leachable lead in porcelain bathroom fixtures. A baby > > wipe rubbed on the bottom of a tub picked up over 1000 micrograms > of > > lead. Hands rubbed along the side of a LeadCheck positive tub were > > shown to pick up significant amounts of lead. Bath water allowed to > > sit in LeadCheck positive tubs leaches lead in amounts exceeding 50 > > parts per billion. Washcloths soaked in bath water and rubbed on > the > > bottom of the tub concentrated significant amounts of lead. > > > > Unique Refinishers has now surveyed more than 750 bathtubs and > found > > that, overall, 62% of all porcelain tubs tested positive with > > LeadCheck Swabs. Specifically, 77% of the cast iron tubs and 25% of > > the steel tubs tested positive. This source of lead most likely > > represents a significant exposure to only very young children with > > their high level of hand to mouth activity and propensity > to " drink " > > the water during bath time. > > > > The Environmental Protection Agency estimates that more than 57 > > million U.S. homes have dangerously high lead levels. While > bathtubs > > are a newly identified source of lead, other sources include > > deteriorating lead paint, water, plumbing, dust and ceramics, to > > name a few. According to Stone, the best solution is for the public > > to empower itself with information on the problem. > > > > What is the solution to the lead problem? Unique Refinishers has > > confirmed that refinishing LeadCheck positive tubs eliminates the > > leaching of lead by encapsulating the tub. The implications for the > > Refinisher are obvious. After spending over $15,000 on lead > > abatement, found that she could have prevented the > > problem by simply having the tub refinished for only a few hundred > > dollars. You need to empower your customers by giving them the > > benefit of the ' experience. Carry a supply of LeadCheck > Swabs > > and test every porcelain tub and sink you encounter. If there is a > > possibility of lead exposure, you can demonstrate it on the spot. > > > > And what about you? Do you need to protect yourself from lead > > exposure during the refinishing process? If you are following the > > proper safety procedures you normally use (and we would be > > disappointed to find that you aren't) to protect yourself from the > > other hazards of refinishing, you are protected. You should avoid > > breathing sanding dust or, better yet, wet sand to prevent dust in > > the first place. You should always wear coveralls and latex or > > rubber gloves during surface preparation and spraying. And finally, > > we hope that your level of hand to mouth activity is not that of a > > one-year old; but, if it is, please wash your hands before you > stick > > them in your mouth. And stop drinking the bath water! > > > > _________________ > > > > I have no idea whether Epsom Salt baths helped to degrade the > enamel > > on the tub (which is old, probably from 1948 when the house was > > built) but we have only done showers since discovering this > problem. > > I encourage you to check your own bathtub for the presence of lead. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Crockery in anpother [place you might find the Lead - it can be in the glaze - also just learned this afternoon some floor and walls tiles can have it also Mandi x Re: Re: lead in bath tubs Yes, I have no recollection of it being mentioned.......not that that means it wasn't! Does anyone else know if it was covered? sharon x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Mandi, Can you find out anything else from the conference on bathtubs? I spent hours yesterday looking with no result. God, I am a saddo. Lovely Powerpoint slides by the way - I hope you are having great time and learning lots. Love to you and Caroline, Margaret > > Crockery in anpother [place you might find the Lead - it can be in the glaze - also just learned this afternoon some floor and walls tiles can have it also > > Mandi x > > Re: Re: lead in bath tubs > > > Yes, I have no recollection of it being mentioned.......not that that means it wasn't! Does anyone else know if it was covered? > > sharon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 It was a just in passing comment as part of Andy Levinsons presentation on a case a child who blood level continued to be high after they couldn;t think what it could be the source was Mexican tiles that were not sealed. I think glazes in somewhat 'fragile' materials are the issue, that would be the bath, the crockery, the tiles and stuff - dzamn thoe tiles inthe pcicture looked just like ours but they are not fancy mexican they are local tile house but I never thought to test them. Plastoics is the other place for Lead, used to stop it getting brittle like those little tikes playsystems for the garden designed to be out side all the time - if plastic doesn't go brittle after extended time outside then I guess likely more Lead whihc is there to keep in supple - that was the issue with plastic venetian blinds, the hose pipe for the garden etc. I am trying to think of it now as USE of item because as I sit here (hungover LOL) that is making more sense to me. I will try and speak to Dr L about it more today. He looks so much like Jesus in the movies and walks so calmly, super presenter Mandi x Re: Re: lead in bath tubs > > > Yes, I have no recollection of it being mentioned.......not that that means it wasn't! Does anyone else know if it was covered? > > sharon x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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