Re: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

[Guest guest]

How much essiential oil did you use? Soy wax burns like oil and I have never

used beeswax in candles. I do however add it to soy to make tarts (no wick) -

wow - lucky you did not burn the house down. Certain fragrance oils do not burn

well in soy - chocolate mint comes to mind. I make soy candles and they turn out

well as long as you use the right wicks. I will never go back to the old candle

wax again.

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To: 1Toiletries

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:07 AM

Subject: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

 

Hello everyone,

Over the last few months I've been experimenting with making soy candles and

have not been successful. Since I have not been successful with soy wax alone

I thought I'd try blending soy and beeswax. On one experiment a few weeks ago

(after making soap of the same name) I tried with adding Lavender eo and

Rosemary eo to the soy and beeswax blend I've been experimenting with. I allowed

the candle to cure for about 2 weeks then I lit the candle this morning

to see how it would perform - I placed it in a room and came back to the room

maybe 10 minutes later to find that the entire top of the candle was on

fire...black soot emitting and the entire diameter of the candle was on fire.

I happen to be washing dishes at the time and dumped the entire candle into the

sink filled with water. the fire continued for a couple of more seconds then

went out. My only guess was that the flashpoint of the essential oils are low

and that the heat from the wick went above the FP.

Soapmaking is so much easier than candlemaking. Your thoughts and suggestions

are welcomed!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Wow, you are very, very lucky.

First, beeswax has a much higher melt point than soy wax so not sure why you

would want to combine the two. What was your reasoning?

Second, Rosemary EO has a flash point of only 104 degrees, it's not safe in

any candle.

Third, you should never light a candle and leave the room. That goes DOUBLE

when you are testing out a new candle and aren't sure how it will burn.

You are lucky you didn't burn your house down. I would suggest you do some

research and learn what you should and shouldn't do, before you make

anymore.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but some things are dangerous if you don't know

what you are doing.

Heidi

Heidi's Herbals

<http://www.heidisherbals.com/> http://www.heidisherbals.com/

From: 1Toiletries [mailto:1Toiletries ] On

Behalf Of sewjewel

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:07 AM

To: 1Toiletries

Subject: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

Hello everyone,

Over the last few months I've been experimenting with making soy candles and

have not been successful. Since I have not been successful with soy wax

alone I thought I'd try blending soy and beeswax. On one experiment a few

weeks ago (after making soap of the same name) I tried with adding Lavender

eo and Rosemary eo to the soy and beeswax blend I've been experimenting

with. I allowed the candle to cure for about 2 weeks then I lit the candle

this morning

to see how it would perform - I placed it in a room and came back to the

room maybe 10 minutes later to find that the entire top of the candle was on

fire...black soot emitting and the entire diameter of the candle was on

fire. I happen to be washing dishes at the time and dumped the entire candle

into the sink filled with water. the fire continued for a couple of more

seconds then went out. My only guess was that the flashpoint of the

essential oils are low

and that the heat from the wick went above the FP.

Soapmaking is so much easier than candlemaking. Your thoughts and

suggestions

are welcomed!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

That's why liability insurance is SO high for candlemakers!

Judy

Subject: RE: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

To: 1Toiletries

Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 7:01 AM

Wow, you are very, very lucky.

First, beeswax has a much higher melt point than soy wax so not sure why you

would want to combine the two. What was your reasoning?

Second, Rosemary EO has a flash point of only 104 degrees, it's not safe in

any candle.

Third, you should never light a candle and leave the room. That goes DOUBLE

when you are testing out a new candle and aren't sure how it will burn.

You are lucky you didn't burn your house down. I would suggest you do some

research and learn what you should and shouldn't do, before you make

anymore.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but some things are dangerous if you don't know

what you are doing.

Heidi

Heidi's Herbals

<http://www.heidisherbals.com/> http://www.heidisherbals.com/

From: 1Toiletries [mailto:1Toiletries ] On

Behalf Of sewjewel

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:07 AM

To: 1Toiletries

Subject: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

 

Hello everyone,

Over the last few months I've been experimenting with making soy candles and

have not been successful. Since I have not been successful with soy wax

alone I thought I'd try blending soy and beeswax. On one experiment a few

weeks ago (after making soap of the same name) I tried with adding Lavender

eo and Rosemary eo to the soy and beeswax blend I've been experimenting

with. I allowed the candle to cure for about 2 weeks then I lit the candle

this morning

to see how it would perform - I placed it in a room and came back to the

room maybe 10 minutes later to find that the entire top of the candle was on

fire...black soot emitting and the entire diameter of the candle was on

fire. I happen to be washing dishes at the time and dumped the entire candle

into the sink filled with water. the fire continued for a couple of more

seconds then went out. My only guess was that the flashpoint of the

essential oils are low

and that the heat from the wick went above the FP.

Soapmaking is so much easier than candlemaking. Your thoughts and

suggestions

are welcomed!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I joined this group years ago , when I first wanted to make candles in hopes of

any advice or help...thinking this was a group of people that would offer advice

or tips for someone new...

 My first and last try making soy lavender candles was nearly as awful as you

had, mine wouldn't stay lite...

I am happy you or your home wasn't damaged......

I am a hands on learner....If I read a 100 books on candle making it still

wouldn't help my type much....that is why it would have paid for me to take some

lessons from someone, or find a group of people that was offering help....with

flash points and such

I took enjoy making soaps with my herbs...and essential oils..

Subject: RE: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

To: 1Toiletries

Date: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 7:01 AM

Wow, you are very, very lucky.

First, beeswax has a much higher melt point than soy wax so not sure why you

would want to combine the two. What was your reasoning?

Second, Rosemary EO has a flash point of only 104 degrees, it's not safe in

any candle.

Third, you should never light a candle and leave the room. That goes DOUBLE

when you are testing out a new candle and aren't sure how it will burn.

You are lucky you didn't burn your house down. I would suggest you do some

research and learn what you should and shouldn't do, before you make

anymore.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but some things are dangerous if you don't know

what you are doing.

Heidi

Heidi's Herbals

<http://www.heidisherbals.com/> http://www.heidisherbals.com/

From: 1Toiletries [mailto:1Toiletries ] On

Behalf Of sewjewel

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:07 AM

To: 1Toiletries

Subject: candle experiment disaster - Need your help

 

Hello everyone,

Over the last few months I've been experimenting with making soy candles and

have not been successful. Since I have not been successful with soy wax

alone I thought I'd try blending soy and beeswax. On one experiment a few

weeks ago (after making soap of the same name) I tried with adding Lavender

eo and Rosemary eo to the soy and beeswax blend I've been experimenting

with. I allowed the candle to cure for about 2 weeks then I lit the candle

this morning

to see how it would perform - I placed it in a room and came back to the

room maybe 10 minutes later to find that the entire top of the candle was on

fire...black soot emitting and the entire diameter of the candle was on

fire. I happen to be washing dishes at the time and dumped the entire candle

into the sink filled with water. the fire continued for a couple of more

seconds then went out. My only guess was that the flashpoint of the

essential oils are low

and that the heat from the wick went above the FP.

Soapmaking is so much easier than candlemaking. Your thoughts and

suggestions

are welcomed!

Thanks,