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Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was just wondering today, how

much body fat someone with a high BF percentage can realistically

expect/aim to lose in 12 weeks following BFL? Unfortunately, the gym I

joined doesn't have a body fat scale, so I won't know what my BF

percentage is until I can get hold of one or some calipers. These

things are not so simple to obtain when living in a small town. :/

Good luck with your program, I wasn't familiar with the website you

referred to but was just curious about your program as it sounds

different to BFL. Anyway, all the best. :)

dea xx

>

> I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in March

time

> frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I have

gained

> some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have started a

new

> plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique Transformation

> website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now start the

> fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this time.

>

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Everybody is different, but half a percent per week or about 5-6% a

challenge is pretty average. That's definitely not set in stone

though. I've seen quite a few women lose 10-13% in one challenge and

I've seen plenty of others struggle to lose 2-3%.

Keep in mind that no testing method is totally accurate. Calipers have

a margin of error of 2-3% and scales and hand-held devices can be as

much as 5-8% off (usually high). All that matters is that you use the

same method each time and that the trend over time is downward.

You might try an online body fat calculator like Biofitness:

http://www.biofitness.com/abodyfat.html

Those things can be tricky though. They all ask for different

measurements, and the closer your body type is to " average " the more

accurate they are. People who are tiny or obese or very tall get some

strange readings. They're consistently strange though, so you can

still use it to track loss even if the percentage itself is off.

> Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was just wondering today, how

> much body fat someone with a high BF percentage can realistically

> expect/aim to lose in 12 weeks following BFL?

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> Keep in mind that no testing method is totally accurate.

Tape measure. Pictures.

Both excellant accurate ways to track that you are going in the right

direction.

joni

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Hi ,

Thanks so much for the information, I think I have a more realistic

aim to strive for now. After having checked out the bf biofitness

calculator you suggested, I am starting to wish I had remained in

ignorance.. ughhhh the pain! :S I'm trying to keep in mind that you

said, " people who are obese get some strange readings. "

Hell, if it's accurate, then... it will just make my inevitable

transformation all the more impressive! LOL

*chants to myself*

failure is not an option!

failure is not an option!

failure is not an option!

:)

> > Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was just wondering today,

how

> > much body fat someone with a high BF percentage can realistically

> > expect/aim to lose in 12 weeks following BFL?

>

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> I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in March

time

> frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I have

gained

> some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have started

a new

> plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique

Transformation

> website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now start

the

> fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this time.

>

Funny post name. I was just thinking today since I've put on 20 of

the 30 lbs I lost during my first challenge last year that I'd all

but LOST my wagon, forget just falling off. I need some major

motivation. I'm new to post here, but read every now and again when

I have time. I really do want to be a size 8 and stay there! My

bodyfat is around 30% now and I'd like to be around 23% for the

first time since forever. Thanks for your support - of each other

and motivation...Peg

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Hi dea,

You can use this site to give you a ball park figure for your BF%. It is not

accurate but it is better than nothing and just requires the use of a tape

meassure.

Alecia

Re: Back on the wagon

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was just wondering today, how

much body fat someone with a high BF percentage can realistically

expect/aim to lose in 12 weeks following BFL? Unfortunately, the gym I

joined doesn't have a body fat scale, so I won't know what my BF

percentage is until I can get hold of one or some calipers. These

things are not so simple to obtain when living in a small town. :/

Good luck with your program, I wasn't familiar with the website you

referred to but was just curious about your program as it sounds

different to BFL. Anyway, all the best. :)

dea xx

>

> I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in March

time

> frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I have

gained

> some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have started a

new

> plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique Transformation

> website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now start the

> fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this time.

>

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Hi Alecia,

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear from your message which site you were

referring to. Was it the Biofitness calculator site that

previously suggested?

http://www.biofitness.com/abodyfat.html

After checking out my body fat percentage there, I am starting to

think that ignorance is bliss. :/

Nah, just kidding :) Thank you for your post.

Some good news, I went to my doctor on Friday for the first time in

four months and she was really happy to see me and said she barely

recognised me at first. After she weighed me we discovered that I

have lost 17 kgs (34.4 lbs??) in 4 months. I've lost 3kgs (6.6

lbs???) in 3 weeks since I started BFL, and I was wondering if this

might be a little high? I've been following the program as it's

written, apart from the supplements. I still have another 20 or

25kgs to go I think and one of my biggest challenges will be to have

patience with the process and not to do anything stupid ie. trying

to speed things up.

I still hate the free day. I think it's because it reminds me of

episodes in my past where I've binged. It just makes me feel once I

start eating something " bad " that I'm going lose control again and I

won't be able to resume BFL. I had my free day yesterday and at the

end of day, I was thinking, Phew! it's over. It was such a relief.

Maybe it will get easier as time goes on and I get to a point where

I know for sure that BFL is not a fad diet I'm on or phase but a

permanent change I'm trying to integrate into my life.

All the best

dea xx

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> > I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in

March

> time

> > frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I have

> gained

> > some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have

started a

> new

> > plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique

Transformation

> > website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now start

the

> > fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this

time.

> >

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Congratulations on your success!

Re: free day. What if you ate normal BFL and added a few non-

authorized foods. Say, 3. The idea is to rid yourself of any

cravings that have accumulated over the week, and to bump your

calories for a day so your body is fooled into thinking that nothing

funny is going on with intake. Like, add real cheese to that

morning eggwhite omelet. Or, mayo on your sandwich. Or, ice cream

with your protein shake. Don't be afraid of this, just figure out

what is comfortable for YOU and do that. Whatever it is that makes

you happy and rejuventated and ready to go on to the next week.

Take care, you're doing fantastic, just keep on moving toward your

goal! Jami

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> > > I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in

> March

> > time

> > > frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I

have

> > gained

> > > some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have

> started a

> > new

> > > plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique

> Transformation

> > > website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now

start

> the

> > > fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this

> time.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Jami, :)

Thank you for your kind words, support and great suggestions. Your

advice about adding a few non-authorised foods is exactly what I am

trying to do at the moment. Last free day I took my kids to a circus

and while we were there, they were eating stuff like blue fairy

floss (what do you call it in the US.. candy floss?), hot dogs etc

and they shared some with me. I hadn't eaten fairy floss since I was

a kid, so it was kinda cool. I was a bit nervous about stepping on

the scale the next day, but when I did I was relieved that my weight

was still the same or maybe even a bit less.

The last couple of days though, I realised I hadn't been drinking

enough water and so I tried to make up for it last night and this

morning by significantly increasing my intake. When I stepped on the

scales this morning my weight had gone up by several 2 or 3 kgs.. :/

I almost had a heart attack!! I'm hoping this is more related to my

water intake than anything else.

All the best

dea xx

> > > >

> > > > I was just looking at my pictures I had posted from back in

> > March

> > > time

> > > > frame with the ones I just took today - holy crap! I know I

> have

> > > gained

> > > > some fat but WOW you can really see it in photo's. I have

> > started a

> > > new

> > > > plan. I started 5 weeks ago - I am using the Physique

> > Transformation

> > > > website and I just finished the conditioning phase and now

> start

> > the

> > > > fat burning tomorrow. I do so plan to make it to 15% BF this

> > time.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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  • 1 year later...

Liza, I am with you. I just got back from five days of vacation where I

didn't have a lot of control over my food and I drank every day and now I'm

all bloated and blah. I'm doing a 17-day challenge of clean eats and no

drinks, and last night I dreamed I ate chocolate by mistake! Ha! Being off

plan did make me appreciate the sure and steady feedings that come with

BfL. It is more fun than being hungry and I feel so GOOD when I am on

plan! So here I go into the remainder of the year determined to drop more

fat and unveil my best body ever!

> C3 sucked. I'm annoyed with myself. Up 5 pounds. Back on the wagon

> today. Wish me luck! I WILL NOT be a beast going into the holidays.. lol

>

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A mini-challenge sounds like a great idea!  It sure does make you appreciate the

healthy feeling much more.  My reflux came back, I feel like a tired, mushy slob

and I can't even act all " high and mighty " around my family about how healthy I

am lol....I think I miss the gloating the most...just kidding hee hee.  I'm

gonna make mine a 5 day clean-eating challenge first.  Try not to set myself up

y'know?  Thanks Diane!!

> C3 sucked. I'm annoyed with myself. Up 5 pounds. Back on the wagon

> today. Wish me luck! I WILL NOT be a beast going into the holidays.. lol

>

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That's is so funny, Liza! You'll get your gloat back! Five days is a good

place to start.

My extra vacation pounds are coming off fast. Whew.

> A mini-challenge sounds like a great idea! It sure does make you

> appreciate the healthy feeling much more. My reflux came back, I feel like

> a tired, mushy slob and I can't even act all " high and mighty " around my

> family about how healthy I am lol....I think I miss the gloating the

> most...just kidding hee hee. I'm gonna make mine a 5 day clean-eating

> challenge first. Try not to set myself up y'know? Thanks Diane!!

>

>

>

> > C3 sucked. I'm annoyed with myself. Up 5 pounds. Back on the wagon

> > today. Wish me luck! I WILL NOT be a beast going into the holidays.. lol

> >

> >

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Don't forget that flying (if you did) makes you heavier for a day too as you

retain water from drying out from the altitude apparently.

> That's is so funny, Liza! You'll get your gloat back! Five days is a

> good

> place to start.

>

> My extra vacation pounds are coming off fast. Whew.

>

> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Liza Wood

<lizawd3@...<lizawd3%40yahoo.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > A mini-challenge sounds like a great idea! It sure does make you

> > appreciate the healthy feeling much more. My reflux came back, I feel

> like

> > a tired, mushy slob and I can't even act all " high and mighty " around my

> > family about how healthy I am lol....I think I miss the gloating the

> > most...just kidding hee hee. I'm gonna make mine a 5 day clean-eating

> > challenge first. Try not to set myself up y'know? Thanks Diane!!

> >

> >

> >

> > > C3 sucked. I'm annoyed with myself. Up 5 pounds. Back on the wagon

> > > today. Wish me luck! I WILL NOT be a beast going into the holidays..

> lol

> > >

> > >

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