Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 --- wow...very interesting. Thanks for the link. I'd like to know about your success in sourcing this resin Ragna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 In a message dated 5/18/2009 3:40:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sophiadutoit@... writes: >I am already investigating how to get hold of it, although I hope that >the Paris based company (Stephane Piquart - Behave) have not obtained exclusive rights to it Did the program indicate that the plant grows exclusively within the borders of tribal lands? Dara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > --- wow...very interesting. Thanks for the link. I'd like to know about your success in sourcing this resin > Ragna I have contacted the producer of the program and she forwarded my request to Nott who organized the project. BTW, The Omumbiri plant (Commiphora wildii) is not what is generally known as African Myrrh which is Commiphora Africana. Sophia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 > > Did the program indicate that the plant grows exclusively within the > borders of tribal lands? > > Dara Hi Dara The plant is endemic to Namibia and grows only in northern Namib where the Himba lives. Sophia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 The organizer of Omumbiri the project replied to me and I will be able to get hold of the resin. They normally sell the resin in 500 kg or more quantities but is willing to let me obtain smaller quantities. I have to let her know how much I want. Will anyone be interested in the raw resin? Sophia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 > > The organizer of Omumbiri the project replied to me and I will be able to get hold of the resin. They normally sell the resin in 500 kg or more quantities but is willing to let me obtain smaller quantities. I have to let her know how much I want. Will anyone be interested in the raw resin? > > Sophia > Hi Sophia (Hi Ambrosia!) I too am interested in some of the resin. Please email me prices and quanities...thanks:) ragna3@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 > > The organizer of Omumbiri the project replied to me and I will be able to get hold of the resin. They normally sell the resin in 500 kg or more quantities but is willing to let me obtain smaller quantities. I have to let her know how much I want. Will anyone be interested in the raw resin? > > Sophia > Hi Sophia, I would be interested also, if the price is right. Please let me know. Thanks, Saundra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I would be interested in some also, dependent on price, 200-500 grams thanks Ross ur1@... http://olfactoryrescueservice.wordpress.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Hi Everyone Thank you all for the interest in the Omumbiri resin. Since this is a very special project the raw resin will come with attached conditions to ensure that the Himba people receive the maximum benefit from the project.(I had to sign a hefty document to obtain the initial sample amount.) This will prevent unscrupulous people from reselling the resin for exorbitant prices or try to claim intellectual property rights to it, which has happened to African botanicals too often in the past. Anyone who wants to obtain some of the raw resin has to sign a release form stating that they will not resell the raw resin. The organizer of the NGO project will be away out of contact for 3 weeks, when she returns I will be able to obtain more of the Omumbiri resin, and get the regulations for distributing the resin among Natural Perfumers as well as negotiate the final price. Research material on the properties of the resin will also be made available. If this is handled correctly and responsibly then we will also be able to obtain other rare aromatics which are produced in too small quantities for the large companies but will but will work very well for us natural perfumers. Sophia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 > > The organizer of Omumbiri the project replied to me and I will be able to get hold of the resin. They normally sell the resin in 500 kg or more quantities but is willing to let me obtain smaller quantities. I have to let her know how much I want. Will anyone be interested in the raw resin? > > Sophia > Hello, Being new to the group, I will begin by asking a question! What is the difference in " raw " resin? And yes I would be interested if I knew how to process raw resin. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 > Anyone who wants to obtain some of the raw resin has to sign a release form stating that they will not resell the raw resin. The organizer of the NGO project will be away out of contact for 3 weeks, when she returns I will be able to obtain more of the Omumbiri resin, and get the regulations for distributing the resin among Natural Perfumers as well as negotiate the final price. Research material on the properties of the resin will also be made available. > > If this is handled correctly and responsibly then we will also be able to obtain other rare aromatics which are produced in too small quantities for the large companies but will but will work very well for us natural perfumers. > > Sophia > Thank you Sophia for doing all this research and I will be happy to sign a release. Really looking forward to working with this resin. Thank you again for this effort and time you are putting into this! Ragna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Sophia, I have been away for few days...any chance of getting some of this resin try? Sounds Fascinating. Katlyn Breene Mermade Magickal Arts (since 1984) katmermade@... http://www.mermadearts.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 > > Last night I watched a program on one of local stations about the Himba, a Namibiana tribe and the Omumbiri perfume plant. The Himba people used the resin mix with fat to make perfumes. The presenters describes the scent as " a unique, very crisp, a very clean smell, rather florally. " > > You can read about it at this link; > http://www.mnet.co.za/Mnet/Shows/carteblanche/story.asp?Id=3676 > > I am already investigating how to get hold of it, although I hope that > the Paris based company (Stephane Piquart - Behave) have not obtained exclusive rights to it. Apparently Stephane's company has already made an essential oil from the raw resin. > > Sophia > Fascinating article/transcript. It's interesting that the Himba use other Commiphora species for dental care (myrrh is wonderful for the gums and I blend a tooth powder with it). Please keep us posted on what you find. It doesn't sound like Stephane Piquart will be able to have an exclusive right to the resin, especially since the organization researching the Himba is sensitive to the ecological value of the plant, the sociological integrity of the tribe and their economic well-being. It looks like they are not allowing the plant or the tribe to be exploited. I'm also interested in exploring the resin and will be willing to sign a document. Thanks!! Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 > > > > The organizer of Omumbiri the project replied to me and I will be able to get hold of the resin. They normally sell the resin in 500 kg or more quantities but is willing to let me obtain smaller quantities. I have to let her know how much I want. Will anyone be interested in the raw resin? > > > > Sophia > > > Hello, > Being new to the group, I will begin by asking a question! What is the > difference in " raw " resin? And yes I would be interested if I knew how > to process raw resin. > > Thanks > > Raw resin is an aromatic substance that is obtained directly from the plant and has not been processed or refined. This would only be from plants that exude resinous substances, ie. frankincense, myrrh, mastic, cistus. They are generally " tapped " directly from the tree or shrub. These resins can be distilled to extract an essential oil, or an essence can be extracted using a solvent such as hexane (yeilding an " Absolute " ) or CO2 gas under low pressure. Some resins are used in incense as they can be burned. I suppose they can also be tinctured using 190 proof alcohol. Welcome to the group! Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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