Guest guest Posted March 17, 2002 Report Share Posted March 17, 2002 I have a friend who cleared up his psoriasis taking colloidal silver internally. Kallie http://www.4optimallife.com Magnetic Sleep Pads, Zappers, Ionizing- Alkalizing Water Filters, Rebounders, Energy Therapies, psoriasis Has anyone tried super blue stuff emu oil or the rife (sp?) machine for psoriasis or know of anyone who has? linet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2002 Report Share Posted March 17, 2002 I have tried emu oil and although it is wonderful stuff it has not helped much on my psoriasis. The people who I but it from confirm this. They say emu oil works best on eczema. Jacqui timebirdy@... wrote: > Has anyone tried super blue stuff emu oil or the rife (sp?) machine for > psoriasis or know of anyone who has? > linet > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 I have heard of a number of people totally being free of serious psoriasis within a week by just taking two tablespoons of soy oil a day. I don't know how it works, but it does. A good friend had bleeding psoriasis and had gone to Stanford and they had given him tar shampoo, etc. and none of it worked, then an elderly woman he met told him to do the oil and he thought, why not. And in less than a week it was all gone. So I have shared this with others who have also had success. It is cheap and worth a try I suppose. Donna ----- Original Message ----- > Has anyone tried super blue stuff emu oil or the rife (sp?) machine for > psoriasis or know of anyone who has? > linet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2002 Report Share Posted March 18, 2002 Clin Chim Acta 1999 Nov;289(1-2):23-31 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Antioxidants and lipid peroxidation status in the blood of patients with psoriasis. Kokcam I, Naziroglu M. Department of Dermatology, Medical Faculty of Firat University, 23119, Elazig, Turkey. The aim of this research was to determine levels in blood of vitamin E, beta carotene, lipid peroxidation as malondialdehyde (MDA), reduced glutathione (GSH) and glutathione peroxidase (GSH-Px) activity in patients with psoriasis. Studies were carried out on 34 patients with moderate and severe psoriases and healthy age-matched controls. Red blood cell (RBC) and plasma samples from healthy and patient subjects were taken. Levels of GSH and the activity of GSH-Px in both plasma and RBC samples were significantly (P<0.001) lower in patients with psoriasis than in controls, whereas beta carotene levels in plasma and MDA levels in RBC samples were significantly (P<0.01, P<0.001) higher in patients with psoriasis than in controls. However, vitamin E and MDA levels in plasma did not differ statistically. Although being far from conclusive, these results provide some evidence for a potential role of increased lipid peroxidation and decreased antioxidants in psoriasis. Publication Types: Clinical Trial Controlled Clinical Trial PMID: 10556650 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Duncan, What exactly does this mean in layman terms? I don't know what role GSH and GHS-px play in the body. i sure would like to learn more about it though. Jacqui these results provide some evidence for a potential role of increased lipid peroxidation and decreased antioxidants in psoriasis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Glutathione (GSH) is one of the main detoxing agents for the body, especially for heavy metals. If GSH is low, usually heavy metal toxicity is high! Lots more to it. There is a great book on GSH - don't have the exact name but someone else will give it or I will find it. I have read it but want to read it again. By a Canadian doctor associated with Immunocal. Good luck, Ken Re: Re: psoriasis > Duncan, > What exactly does this mean in layman terms? I don't know what role GSH and GHS-px play in the body. i sure would like to learn more about it though. > Jacqui > > these results provide some evidence for > a potential role of increased lipid peroxidation and decreased antioxidants > in psoriasis. > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2002 Report Share Posted March 21, 2002 >>>>What exactly does this mean in layman terms? I don't know what role GSH and GHS-px play in the body. i sure would like to learn more about it though. ............these results provide some evidence for a potential role of increased lipid peroxidation and decreased antioxidants in psoriasis.<<<< Hi Jacqui; The best of the science holds that psoriasis is triggered similarly to cancer, by toxins, as you probably know. Most commonly, mainly young adults get it after an illness or other toxic assault such as perhaps a vaccination or poisoning. Anyway it is triggered and it's difficult to make it go away. Many compounds and drugs are aimed at the inflammation part of the equation. OK, it's nice to get some relief....BUT ... That passage (from Medline) is saying general oxidative stress, in this case naming the oxidation of oils in your system, plays a definite role in psoriasis. The oils that oxidize most readily are the polyunsaturates you eat and the LDL cholesterol that transports them. I'm calling a large group of 'diseases' simply oxidative stress disorders. Most disease falls into this category as the link below into Medline documentation shows... http://members.shaw.ca/widewest/medlind_links.html The role of decreased antioxidants means when the antioxidants are low it allows dramatically more disease than you'd have with high levels of antioxidants. But you can't expect ANY antioxidants to do the job; Medline research is naming glutathione, and here's why: Glutathione is your body's main detoxifier and antioxidant. It must be created inside every cell, where 90% of the work is done, from precursors. It not only deals with organic toxins, it also accompanies metals out and quenches free radicals. The other antioxidants do not perform the detoxification and chelation functions although they do help with the free radicals. There are four kinds of glutathione, each of which deals with a specific toxin range. GSH-px, for example, is glutathione peridoxase. It requires selenium to make it, and it deals primarily with hydroxyl molecules (the worst) and secondly with other oxygen free radicals. These are the prime causes of the lipid peroxidation (oxidative stress) in disease. For more detailed info on GSH I'd recommend Dr. Jimmy Gutman's book, " Glutathione Your Body's Most Powerful Healing Agent " ISBN 0-9687078-2-3. This reference is extremely useful, as it summarises the science nicely, and correlates the information to Medline references. The idea behind elevating glutathione levels is that eventually you will be free enough of toxins that the psoriasis will disappear. Similarly to the other diseases, people with psoriasis have low glutathione levels in the body and even less in the affected skin, indicating that there is a clearing reaction underway. By elevating the glutathione and the clearing speed it's pretty obvious we'll eventually see the end of the reaction. It will be UN-triggered. In practice this is sometimes a slow process, because people have a hard time with the lifestyle changes associated with cleansing. Smoking, not drinking enough water, impacted colons, blocked bile ducts, mercury fillings, eating polyunsaturated oils and other food-based toxins, and living with environmental toxins inhibits the process because the cleansing must also take this daily exposure into account and overcome these pollutants as well. It is interesting to note that ozone therapy works in much the same way. It oxidizes toxins, bacteria, virii and fungi, and triggers an increase in several natural antioxidants in the body, provided the precursors for those antioxidants are present. The precursors cystine, found in large amounts in Immunocal and in tiny amounts in some raw foods, and often selenium, are in short supply in the diet. ciao Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 can glutathione be bought at health food stores? If so, are there best amounts to take for psoriasis? birdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 For " cheap " supplements etc., http://daair.org is unmatched in price. It's a buyers club originated by a group of hiv+ people in New York. Anyone can join. They market and package products with immune enhancement in mind. Free catalog- Glutithione is one of many..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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