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I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my doctor

had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then

everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped

your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick your

term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and

now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is

obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic people?

Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk

product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask my

doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things.

It's just a matter of asking.

Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be

that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any other

hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel

hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then

peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers,

terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have several

generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to have

it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal

problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course

way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to

an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told

her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's

had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low

that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear a

girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science.

So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high

cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that

eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as have

generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and this

is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these docs

are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've got

the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having

terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started

DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my

assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more normal

in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time

in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't know

how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess to

figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called me

" squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be

more stable as things balance out and heal.

In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects

insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think what

I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a

week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I

don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix

things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's proteins

are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people

drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I

don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can

ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be

doing a million things all at once.

Thanks for any info and the idea,

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Dear ,

For insomnia, try:

- skullcap

- St. 's wort

- lavender oil

- valerian

- dandelion

- hops

- passion flower

- chamomile tea

- comfrey

- tryptophan (lots in turkey)

- inositol

- B5 (pantothenic acid)

- calcium + magnesium

- Tai Chi at 9:00 pm

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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To: <oxyplus >

Subject: RE: colostrum for leaky gut and insomnia and melatonin

levels-Gail, etc.

Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:39:20 -0500

I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my doctor

had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then

everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped

your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick your

term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and

now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is

obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic people?

Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk

product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask my

doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things.

It's just a matter of asking.

Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be

that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any other

hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel

hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then

peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers,

terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have several

generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to have

it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal

problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course

way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to

an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told

her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's

had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low

that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear a

girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science.

So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high

cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that

eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as have

generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and this

is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these docs

are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've got

the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having

terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started

DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my

assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more normal

in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time

in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't know

how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess to

figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called me

" squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be

more stable as things balance out and heal.

In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects

insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think what

I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a

week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I

don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix

things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's proteins

are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people

drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I

don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can

ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be

doing a million things all at once.

Thanks for any info and the idea,

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Child, you certainly do talk a mile a minute. My head was spinning reading

your post. LOL I'll try and address some of your questions. As far as the

colostrum goes, I only take Immune-Tree. Don't know what the difference is,

but I find it just works better than the others. It is taken from the first

milking (for lack of a better word), so it is in it's most potent and pure

form. It is a non-milk substance, so people with milk allergies can take

this. I'm guessing it's the immune factors that make it good for leaky gut

symdrome. It contains immunoglobulins, lactoferrin, & cytokines that helps

fight viruses, bacteria, fungus, allergens, & toxins; combats leaky gut

syndrome, arthritis, allergies, etc.; helps balance sugars; is rich in

TgF-B, which not only supports cancer therapy, but also bone formation, &

herpes. Promotes the synthesis & repair of DNA-the master code of the cell.

But for the life of me I can't figure out how it helps with insomnia. When

I first went on it, I couldn't stay awake. However, the sleep was such a

sweet sleep. It took me months to adjust to it. I'd have to only take it

at night. Talk is, it turns back the body's clock. Maybe it helps with

hormonal balancing. I know it helps with pain and gives added energy. I

don't know as to how or if it would help you with your thyroid problems.

But as good as it is, it's still no magic bullet. One must still detox the

body, and acquire healthy eating and lifestyle habits.

I've heard licorice root is good for adrenals. I've also heard you have to

be careful with it. A good herbalist could help you with that. I have no

clue, but I've repeatedly heard it was good for adrenal failure. The good

news is you are young. It always excites me when I see a young person take

such an interest in their health. And even though you feel like you are a

mess, you've plenty of time to repair.

Take care,

Gail

RE: colostrum for leaky gut and insomnia and melatonin

levels-Gail, etc.

> I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my

doctor

> had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then

> everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped

> your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick

your

> term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and

> now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is

> obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic

people?

> Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk

> product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask

my

> doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things.

> It's just a matter of asking.

>

> Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be

> that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any

other

> hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel

> hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then

> peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers,

> terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have

several

> generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to

have

> it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal

> problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course

> way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to

> an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told

> her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's

> had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low

> that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear

a

> girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science.

>

> So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high

> cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that

> eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as

have

> generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and

this

> is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these

docs

> are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've

got

> the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having

> terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started

> DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my

> assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more

normal

> in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time

> in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't

know

> how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess

to

> figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called

me

> " squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be

> more stable as things balance out and heal.

>

> In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects

> insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think

what

> I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a

> week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I

> don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix

> things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's

proteins

> are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people

> drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I

> don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can

> ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be

> doing a million things all at once.

>

> Thanks for any info and the idea,

>

>

>

>

>

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Yes, I talk a lot. :)

Well, colostrum is now definitely written in (in pink no less) on my list of

things to ask my doc about. Sweet sleep would be good!

My doctor has me on the herb macca, which works wonderfully for low

adrenals. Licorice never did anything for me, though it may be I wasn't

taking enough. Siberian Ginseng gave me some chin hair and muscles, but

nothing else. Now I'm too yucky to exercise anyway! The macca totally got

rid of my hypoglycemia. Now it wasn't enough for my DHEA and after a year

we finally decided to add that in anyway. I have info on my site about it

if anyone has a burning curiousity. And now that I'm basically done with

the mercury detox, I'm starting to see improvement with the adrenals. It's

all so interesting! Here's my site:

http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/search4health

With the thyroid, I think what I have going on is binding and autoimmune

problems, and our goal is to get me detoxed, beat the candida and other

beasties, and then go on to do EPD. I have links for EPD on my site as

well.

Thanks for telling me about the colostrum and how it has helped you. I will

definitely ask my doc about it!

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