Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my doctor had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick your term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic people? Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask my doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things. It's just a matter of asking. Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any other hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers, terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have several generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to have it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear a girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science. So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as have generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and this is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these docs are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've got the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more normal in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't know how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess to figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called me " squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be more stable as things balance out and heal. In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think what I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's proteins are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be doing a million things all at once. Thanks for any info and the idea, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Dear , For insomnia, try: - skullcap - St. 's wort - lavender oil - valerian - dandelion - hops - passion flower - chamomile tea - comfrey - tryptophan (lots in turkey) - inositol - B5 (pantothenic acid) - calcium + magnesium - Tai Chi at 9:00 pm Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH --------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: RE: colostrum for leaky gut and insomnia and melatonin levels-Gail, etc. Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:39:20 -0500 I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my doctor had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick your term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic people? Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask my doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things. It's just a matter of asking. Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any other hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers, terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have several generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to have it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear a girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science. So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as have generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and this is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these docs are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've got the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more normal in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't know how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess to figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called me " squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be more stable as things balance out and heal. In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think what I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's proteins are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be doing a million things all at once. Thanks for any info and the idea, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Child, you certainly do talk a mile a minute. My head was spinning reading your post. LOL I'll try and address some of your questions. As far as the colostrum goes, I only take Immune-Tree. Don't know what the difference is, but I find it just works better than the others. It is taken from the first milking (for lack of a better word), so it is in it's most potent and pure form. It is a non-milk substance, so people with milk allergies can take this. I'm guessing it's the immune factors that make it good for leaky gut symdrome. It contains immunoglobulins, lactoferrin, & cytokines that helps fight viruses, bacteria, fungus, allergens, & toxins; combats leaky gut syndrome, arthritis, allergies, etc.; helps balance sugars; is rich in TgF-B, which not only supports cancer therapy, but also bone formation, & herpes. Promotes the synthesis & repair of DNA-the master code of the cell. But for the life of me I can't figure out how it helps with insomnia. When I first went on it, I couldn't stay awake. However, the sleep was such a sweet sleep. It took me months to adjust to it. I'd have to only take it at night. Talk is, it turns back the body's clock. Maybe it helps with hormonal balancing. I know it helps with pain and gives added energy. I don't know as to how or if it would help you with your thyroid problems. But as good as it is, it's still no magic bullet. One must still detox the body, and acquire healthy eating and lifestyle habits. I've heard licorice root is good for adrenals. I've also heard you have to be careful with it. A good herbalist could help you with that. I have no clue, but I've repeatedly heard it was good for adrenal failure. The good news is you are young. It always excites me when I see a young person take such an interest in their health. And even though you feel like you are a mess, you've plenty of time to repair. Take care, Gail RE: colostrum for leaky gut and insomnia and melatonin levels-Gail, etc. > I was reading about that in one of those healthy kind of magazines my doctor > had in his office. It certainly sounded like the " wonder drug " , but then > everything does. So have you been taking the colostrum and it has helped > your leaky gut? I have become sensitve, hypersensitive, allergic, pick your > term to cow's milk (haven't tried raw, organic though), corn, apples, and > now I think maybe eggs as I used to eat a lot of them. Since colostrum is > obviously a cow's milk product, does it cause problems for allergic people? > Everyone seems to have something, another lady told me this cultured milk > product was her ticket... I figure I just write it all down and then ask my > doc, but I'm certainly listening, as he does use it for certain things. > It's just a matter of asking. > > Now, how does the colostrum affect insomnia? See, in my case it could be > that my thyroid meds are a little high still (though I haven't got any other > hyper symptoms and my temps are good), but when I cut back on them I feel > hypo. So that leaves me back to the adrenals things. I'm low, which then > peaks in the evening. Great if you are in college writing term papers, > terrible if you are married with kids and want to go to bed! I have several > generations back (grandma, great grandma, etc., my mom is too young to have > it yet) of ladies in my direct line who all have thyroid and adrenal > problems and all at around age 65 start having " blackouts " . And of course > way back when they called them " spells " , you know. But my grandma went to > an endo (great help there of course) and he did some fancy tests and told > her (drum roll...) that her CORTISOL LEVELS ARE HIGH AT NIGHT. Duh, she's > had low adrenals, hypoglycemia and low blood pressure all her life, so low > that she kept passing out in the hospital recently. They told her to wear a > girdle. Yup, a girdle. Modern science. > > So, getting back from my diatribe, the doctor told her that her high > cortisol levels at night " did not allow her brain to sleep " and that > eventually after enough years of this she just started blacking out, as have > generations before her. They give her Depakote. Great. So I'm 25 and this > is what lies before me... but then I start reading and learn that these docs > are barbaric and aren't really treating the root problems. So now I've got > the mercury out, my adrenals are 50% better already, but I'm still having > terrible insomnia. It actually got better for a few weeks when I started > DHEA, then it went back. Haven't figured that one out yet. But my > assumption was that starting the DHEA caused my melatonin to be more normal > in the evenings, hence making me tired around 9 or 9:30 for the first time > in my life. Alas, that " tired " window only lasts 1 1/2 hours. I don't know > how others are, and now the effect seems to be waning. It's such a mess to > figure out which so many things out of whack. Actually my doctor called me > " squirrelly " and said that a lot of it was the mercury detox and would be > more stable as things balance out and heal. > > In any case, if you happen to know how exactly the colostrum affects > insomnia, that would be interesting. (after reading all that) I think what > I probably need is melatonin and plan to ask him about it when I go in a > week. Short term I need to be going to be before 3 am, and long term I > don't want those " blackouts " which I seem to be headed for if I don't fix > things. Milk often has a " sleepy time " effect because one of it's proteins > are " sopoforific " if I remember the word correctly, ie. that's why people > drink warm milk when they wake up at night in the story books. Alas, I > don't really know if that will help in my situation. But certainly I can > ask him about the colostrum. He seems to like to stay focused and not be > doing a million things all at once. > > Thanks for any info and the idea, > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. 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Guest guest Posted February 1, 2002 Report Share Posted February 1, 2002 Yes, I talk a lot. Well, colostrum is now definitely written in (in pink no less) on my list of things to ask my doc about. Sweet sleep would be good! My doctor has me on the herb macca, which works wonderfully for low adrenals. Licorice never did anything for me, though it may be I wasn't taking enough. Siberian Ginseng gave me some chin hair and muscles, but nothing else. Now I'm too yucky to exercise anyway! The macca totally got rid of my hypoglycemia. Now it wasn't enough for my DHEA and after a year we finally decided to add that in anyway. I have info on my site about it if anyone has a burning curiousity. And now that I'm basically done with the mercury detox, I'm starting to see improvement with the adrenals. It's all so interesting! Here's my site: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/search4health With the thyroid, I think what I have going on is binding and autoimmune problems, and our goal is to get me detoxed, beat the candida and other beasties, and then go on to do EPD. I have links for EPD on my site as well. Thanks for telling me about the colostrum and how it has helped you. I will definitely ask my doc about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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