Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

[Guest guest]

> what is wrong with your investigative spirit?

> i have answered each and every one of your points.

> lets see you do the same to mine.

> yours sincerely ,

>

Callum,

Perhaps you should consider writing up a proposal on your idea and submitting

it to many natural health care researchers. There are plenty of people

interested in research who have the available equipment, the time, and the

consuming need for recognition, power ( " a blonde at each foot to serve you " ) &

money.

Your persistence with Dr. Pressman is dis-respectful. He already has his

footnote (and chapter) in history. He provides a great deal of information

on health related subjects to the great number of people who do not have the

equipment at home or money available to them to get oxygen therapies from the

medical establishment. It's crucial for everyone in this time of " profits

before people " that we are able to access methods of oxygen & nutritional

therapies ON OUR OWN and AT HOME for little or no money. Many of us spend

our time and available equipment helping those in need without getting

involved with recognition, money & power. Health and well-being for everyone

is the goal. Profit motive, power & need for recognition are what got the

medical establishments & pharmaceutical companies where they are today.

focus on peace, knowing it can

never be achieved through war.

As Peace is not the opposite of war...

it is the opposite of imbalance that occurs

when power, politics, petroleum & money

become more important than evolution.

--calling all angels--

l)

w/peace

wes bennett

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[Guest guest]

callum,

When you were in those schools, did anyone ever point out the shift key to

you?

Starris

[Guest guest]

well was that the best argument you could come up with?

it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their heels

in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

question esatablished 'facts'.

it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to do

the research and i will copyright the idea.

OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it really

works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

yourself.

that is obviously very selfish .

if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

callum

..

[Guest guest]

no they did not point the shift KEY TO ME .

I FOUND THE SHIFT KEY MYSELF.

I PONTED THE SHIFT KEY TO THEM.

I USE THE SHIFT TO UNDERLINE AS YOU DO NO DOUBT DO BUT ARE AFRAID TO ADMIT AS

IT WOULD TARNISH YOUR IMAGE AND YOU ARE MEDIA OBSESSED.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/02 10:47:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,

kosmostarr@... writes:

> no they did not point the shift KEY TO ME .

> I FOUND THE SHIFT KEY MYSELF.

> I PONTED THE SHIFT KEY TO THEM.

> I USE THE SHIFT TO UNDERLINE AS YOU DO NO DOUBT DO BUT ARE AFRAID TO ADMIT

> AS

> IT WOULD TARNISH YOUR IMAGE AND YOU ARE MEDIA OBSESSED.

That's what I thought, LOL.

Starris

[Guest guest]

I DO NOT KNOW IFYOU WERE SERIOUS OR BEING FLIPPANT.BUT I OFFER MY CONDOLANCES

IF IT WAS THE FORMER.

CALLUM

[Guest guest]

YOU COULD NOT possibly have thought that.

remember i received an email from a germen saying he was superior.

[Guest guest]

1 suggest you carefully read the start of the discussion before you make your

ill judged comments without any thought or cogitation.

i think you are out of line for making a ill judged remark without answering

the points i raised.

callum the deeply wounded and hurt victim of yourself.

[Guest guest]

you all seem incapable of reading and remembering what was written. i said 1

part in 100 million .

thats 0.000001% of ozone concentration.why cant you people understand.

do you really think if we take 0.000001% oxygen from the body and convert it

to ozone the body is gonna suffer?

why with one single deep breath a person can replenish that a thousand times.

i suggest you go and get some lessons in reading and comprehension and after

that some simple lessons in arithmetic.

as for my idea being absurd you would have said the same when pasteur and his

ilk suggested disease was caused by very small creatures called germs and

when harvey said the blood circulates.it is people like you who hold back

back progress and exhibit luddite attitudes.

we want to go the future.

make room instead of forever demanding room.

thank god you are not in charge of the government with people like there

would be no freedom of speech

you despot.

your sincerely,

callum the civilised argument winner each time

[Guest guest]

Dear callum,

If you think it is a good idea, go and do it.

I think it is a bad idea, so I will not do it.

It is as simple as that.

Do you understand?

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: kosmostarr@...

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 12:44:39 EST

Dear Saul

but why wont you do it?

you say it is a bad idea but how can you possibly say that

without trying?

look at history.all the great ideas were bad ideas according to entrenched

opinion and the establishment.

you say i dont knot know anything about electricity.

i have actually have a B.Sc in physics and a diploma in electronics and i

stay in London in the U.k.

i have worked with electricity and i have never been

injured .

i would do the experiment myself if i had a decent microscope and was not

squemish about blood.

you have nothing to lose by doing the experiment and knowledge to gain.even

a

failed experiment yields valuable data.

and if its successful you would gain a footnote in history.

i dont even want the credit for the idea in the footnote .

(and i would rather prefer a whole chapter anyway).

your patients would worship you as a demigod and of course financial rewards

with a little hard work in producing/licensing such devices are possible

with

a blonde at each of your feet waiting for your orders.

i am not asking you to do the experiment on yourself

but on a drop of blood.

you say you dont have time but you could delegate it to a research

student.or

to a friend or a colleague.

what is wrong with your investigative spirit?

i have answered each and every one of your points.

lets see you do the same to mine.

yours sincerely ,

callum

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[Guest guest]

Dear Callum,

Yes, I have been burning the midnight oil,

preparing for my father's funeral tomorrow.

Thanks for your understanding.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: kosmostarr@...

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:41:08 EST

well was that the best argument you could come up with?

it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their

heels

in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

question esatablished 'facts'.

it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to do

the research and i will copyright the idea.

OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it really

works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

yourself.

that is obviously very selfish .

if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

callum

..

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My father thanks you.

Dr. Saul

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From: kosmostarr@...

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:13:14 EST

I DO NOT KNOW IFYOU WERE SERIOUS OR BEING FLIPPANT.BUT I OFFER MY

CONDOLANCES

IF IT WAS THE FORMER.

CALLUM

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>I am not the moderator here but I would like to say that I think you

are

out of line.<<<<<<

I had also answered callum's question, on another list.

And so did Wes - where would you get free oxygen in someone's blood to make

O3 when it's bound to the haemoglobin as O1? Strip it from the haemoglobin,

when the body is already low on oxygen in those cases?

The proposed experiment is dangerous, unscientific, and absurd. Remove two

of those attributes and you'd still have the third. Ozone methods used right

now are not tricky or difficult, and they work.

It's like this person has an agenda to aggravate, isn't it? I'd banish him

if it was my decision. Perhaps he can find someone with testing equipment

and a microscope close to his home.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I am not the moderator here but I would like to say that I think you are

out of line. Saul has helped most people on this list. I see no reason

for you to attack him. Personally, I think you must be a jerk. We have a

nice group here and if you don't like it, then I suggest you leave the group.

Erma

At 01:41 PM 1/19/02 -0500, you wrote:

>well was that the best argument you could come up with?

>

>it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their heels

>in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

>nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

>question esatablished 'facts'.

>it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to do

>the research and i will copyright the idea.

>OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

>while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it really

>works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

>yourself.

>that is obviously very selfish .

>

>if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

>suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

>callum

>

>.

[Guest guest]

Saul, I'm so sorry that you've lost your dad. I wish you soul comfort and

peace in the midst of this.

Sam

Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:41:08 EST

well was that the best argument you could come up with?

it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their

heels

in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

question esatablished 'facts'.

it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to

do

the research and i will copyright the idea.

OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it

really

works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

yourself.

that is obviously very selfish .

if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

callum

.

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[Guest guest]

I would also like to add my condolenses to Dr Pressman. Always a very sad

time - lets all give him some time out over this difficult period.

best wishes, Nolan

Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

>

>

> Dear Callum,

>

> Yes, I have been burning the midnight oil,

> preparing for my father's funeral tomorrow.

>

> Thanks for your understanding.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

[Guest guest]

i second that .and wish you the best.it must be a difficult time for you.

callum

[Guest guest]

you cant even read properly.

i never mentioned the word transformer or hooking up anyone.

you are obviously incapable of reading and remembering.

callum the civilised

[Guest guest]

Callum,

Now you are starting to piss me off, pal. If you want to throw

insults at the good people on this list, I will not let it pass.

If you are looking for Luddites, look in the mirror, buddy.

Most of the people on this list know that Pasteur was dead

wrong about germs and admitted it on his death bed. His words were

" Bechamp was right! The milieu is everything! " Nowadays, we call

'milieu' the biological terrain.

But people concerned with patents and profits like yourself conspired to

keep Pasteur's dying message hidden. It is no accident that the Pasteur

clinic was the one to 'discover' that AIDS is 'caused' by HIV

and tens of thousands of people have died because of their cupidity.

Your idea of ozonating blood in vivo is just plain stupid.

You claim to have training in electronics but have no grasp of the danger of

hooking a person up to a high voltage transformer.

Tesla is laughing at your witlessness.

Why not go out and do something useful like reinvent the wheel?

All in favor of canning this guy, vote Aye.

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: kosmostarr@...

Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: Re: Re: Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:18:52 EST

you all seem incapable of reading and remembering what was written...

why can't you people understand....

i suggest you go and get some lessons in reading and comprehension and after

that some simple lessons in arithmetic....

it is people like you who hold back back progress and exhibit luddite

attitudes...

thank god you are not in charge of the government...

with people like you there would be no freedom of speech...

you despot...

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sam and all other list members who have written,

Thank you all for your sincere condolences. I had not intended

to broadcast to the list my personal loss, but it just slipped out.

My dad was the most honest and gentle man I have ever known. My

family and I will miss him.

Best of Health to Each and Every One of You!

Dr. Saul

" Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you got

till its gone...

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Reply-To: oxyplus

To: <oxyplus >

Subject: RE: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:02:01 -0800

Saul, I'm so sorry that you've lost your dad. I wish you soul comfort and

peace in the midst of this.

Sam

Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:41:08 EST

well was that the best argument you could come up with?

it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their

heels

in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

question esatablished 'facts'.

it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to

do

the research and i will copyright the idea.

OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it

really

works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

yourself.

that is obviously very selfish .

if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

callum

.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/19/02 6:43:29 PM GMT Standard Time, kosmostarr@...

writes:

>

> well was that the best argument you could come up with?

>

> it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their

> heels

> in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

> nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

> question esatablished 'facts'.

> it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to do

> the research and i will copyright the idea.

> OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

> while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it

> really

> works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

> yourself.

> that is obviously very selfish .

>

> if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

> suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

> callum

>

>

Callum

Just give it a rest, you have obviously made the point you are trying to

make. I also endorse a previous email. PURCHASE A SHIFT KEY.

Doug

[Guest guest]

Aye!Aye!Aye!

[Guest guest]

Aye !! Obie.

Re: Re: Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:18:52 EST

you all seem incapable of reading and remembering what was written...

why can't you people understand....

i suggest you go and get some lessons in reading and comprehension and after

that some simple lessons in arithmetic....

it is people like you who hold back back progress and exhibit luddite

attitudes...

thank god you are not in charge of the government...

with people like you there would be no freedom of speech...

you despot...

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Dear Saul,

I'm glad that this information " slipped out " .

It gave us an opportunity to stand by you in a small but sincere way.

Sam & list gang

Re: research request deniel by dr pressman

Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 13:41:08 EST

well was that the best argument you could come up with?

it is a sad indictment of todays so called doctors that they dig their

heels

in a trench and continue to peddle the same old regurgitated info ad

nauseam.no attempt at fresh research or any attempt to be youthful or

question esatablished 'facts'.

it is obvious you have a mind set problem and i will ask someone else to

do

the research and i will copyright the idea.

OR of course you maybe PRETENDING to say its a bad idea

while you may already have been burning the midnight oil and found it

really

works but you want to keep all the credit AND your place in history to

yourself.

that is obviously very selfish .

if this is the case you can send me a private email to confirm my

suspicions.i promise i wont tell anyone.

callum

.

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> Aye !! Obie.

> Re: Re: Re: research request deniel by dr

pressman

> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:18:52 EST

>

> you all seem incapable of reading and remembering what was

written...

> why can't you people understand....

> i suggest you go and get some lessons in reading and

comprehension and after

> that some simple lessons in arithmetic....

> it is people like you who hold back back progress and exhibit

luddite

> attitudes...

> thank god you are not in charge of the government...

> with people like you there would be no freedom of speech...

> you despot...

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

http://messenger.msn.com

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

find here are for information and research purposes only. We are

people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found

here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence,

common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own

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