Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Do a morning glucometer test. Do not eat anything after 8:00 pm and take the test when you rise in the morning. Normal is 70-120 mg/dl. Under 70 is HYPOGLYCEMIA, 120-140 is pre-diabetes, over 140 is DIABETES. You may be surprised what this test shows. It is very important to do this test before you eat, drink or move about after waking. One of the quickest way to lower blood pressure is by fasting. A one to three day fast can normally be performed very safely. I prefer to juice fast with fresh vegatable juices--about 600 calories per day. And, I add a lot of liquid colloidal minerals to my juice (about 1/3 of the liquid). The minerals are very healthy and greatly reduce the hunger pains. Actually they are eliminated...Ron Inda --- Dennis wrote: > Is it there when you are at rest sitting down? > > Dennis > > > Re: Peripheral artery disease > > > > > > > > > > Good morning and Merry Christmas Eve! > > > > > > > > I've accidentally found out, again, a > different potential cause for my > > > > continuing agony. In a flier from a health > food store, I found an > > article > > > > on peripheral artery disease. It stated if > you have pain after > walking > > > > that's relieved by brief sitting, check your > blood pressure in your > > legs. > > > > I did. It's 175-180/120 in both legs and goes > down to 138/58 when > I've > > > laid > > > > down for a while. > > > > > > > > For years, I've told all of my glorious > doctors the pain in my legs is > > > > agonizing. My legs freeze up giving me severe > pain often leading to > > whole > > > > body migraines, or just the usual kill-me > migraines. After standing > > > > briefly, the pain is so mean I can hardly keep > from screeching! Even > on > > > all > > > > of the pain meds they have me on 24/7! > > > > > > > > Anything holistic is a temporary fix. And > I've tried it all except > > ozone > > > > and hbo therapies. > > > > > > > > I finally got an appointment at the pain > center last Monday - > something > > I > > > > swore I'd never do again - they only had time > to do a shot in each > knee > > > > which helped for about 48 hours. . . except my > knees are connected to > my > > > > hips and they didn't have time to do those, > too. Next month they'll > do > > > > those! > > > > > > > > In all of my years in and out of the > wheelchair, with my strange > > > emergencies > > > > ( leg and feet paralysis, etc.) they've never > bothered to take the > blood > > > > pressure of my legs! > > > > They just say you have fibromyalgia and > peripheral neuropathy. > There's > > > > nothing we can do. > > > > > > > > They ordered a bedside commode and home health > care, which I haven't > > used > > > > yet as I was afraid of what it'd do to my > chances of getting any kind > of > > > > insurance when my Cobra runs out. > > > > > > > > I'm stunned that they have skipped such an > easy test when it is > > > potentially > > > > lethal. > > > > > > > > What fools they are. > > > > > > > > It's hard to believe I disrespect them any > more than I already do. > > > > > > > > They are doing specialized bloodwork this week > to see again if I have > > > > Gillian Barre' or rheumatoid arthritis and > Friday I'm having a nerve > > > > conduction test on my legs. But they haven't > thought to take the > blood > > > > pressure! > > > > > > > > On a lighter note, two days ago I met my ex > husband's new wife. She > > seems > > > > very nice. We both cleared up lies we'd been > dealing with ~ my ex > > doesn't > > > > look so happy now. > > > > On a positive note, they're already in therapy > together. > > > > Merry Christmas to him > > > > > > > > My son and I have a new supportive church and > are blessed to have new > > > > friends for this difficult season. > > > > > > > > Hope all of your holidays are peaceful, loving > and healthy. > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with > oxidative therapies, and > > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The > things you will find > here > > > are for information and research purposes only. > We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 > Re: Peripheral artery disease > > Kate, > > What you suffer from is called " Intermittent Claudication " > caused by poor circulation to the leg muscles. > > Dennis > Re: Peripheral artery disease > > > Good morning and Merry Christmas Eve! > > > > I've accidentally found out, again, a different potential > > cause for my continuing agony. In a flier from a health > > food store, I found an article on peripheral artery disease. > > It stated if you have pain after walking that's relieved by > > brief sitting, check your blood pressure in your legs. > > I did. It's 175-180/120 in both legs and goes down to > > 138/58 when I've laid down for a while. <snip> If this problem is indeed caused by poor circulation to the leg muscles, then I can think of some things that I would strongly recommend you try - they are inexpensive, and you should see results quickly if this is indeed the problem, so it is worth a try... First, I would try combinations of Niacin (*not* the 'non-flush' form) and niacinimide, combined with lots of cayenne tincture (as much as you can stand). The niacin 'flush' is a sign that it is working - niacin causes the capillaries near the surface of the skin to expand greatly. Niacinimide, on the other hand, works on the blood vessels and capillaries deep inside the body - you may experience a 'creepy/crawly' sensation inside when taking it - this is normal. Then, after taking these, perform hot/cold hydro-therapy on the affected areas. An easy way to do this is in the shower. Get the water as hot as you can stand it, mark where the faucet is set, then alternate between the hot and cold. The hot/cold therapy is the absolute best way to 'get the blood moving', and is an integral part of Dr Schulze's 'save your life' program. 3-5 days of this and you should see dramatic results - again, if the problem is indeed a circulatory one. Try it - you just may be amazed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Dear I already take Niacin here and there when my blood pressure drops. And I do get the flush but only on my upper chest and head area I believe. I'll look into the niacinimide but am allergic to cayenne. I take almost completely hot showers due to the horrid neuropathy. I'm always surprised that my skin doesn't even redden. You'd think it'd blister! I'll try the hot/cold treatment on my legs. I've never heard of dr. Schulze's 'save your life' program but will look into that too. I'm in such a pain fog it's hard to think for myself. Now my son's back, shoulder and knees are in such agony, I hate to go out. Even to the doctors' causes him such pain to get my wheelchair out and push me. I hate my life right now. We're in such agony and am about to loose everything financially too. He can't work. He has to take care of me! And I just lost the child support because he turned 18 but is still in school and doing 4.0 work! There has to be a silver lining to our huge clouds. Thanks for the easy things to try. I'll do them immediately. Kate Re: Peripheral artery disease > > > > > Good morning and Merry Christmas Eve! > > > > > > I've accidentally found out, again, a different potential > > > cause for my continuing agony. In a flier from a health > > > food store, I found an article on peripheral artery disease. > > > It stated if you have pain after walking that's relieved by > > > brief sitting, check your blood pressure in your legs. > > > I did. It's 175-180/120 in both legs and goes down to > > > 138/58 when I've laid down for a while. > > <snip> > > If this problem is indeed caused by poor circulation to the leg muscles, > then I can think of some things that I would strongly recommend you try - > they are inexpensive, and you should see results quickly if this is indeed > the problem, so it is worth a try... > > First, I would try combinations of Niacin (*not* the 'non-flush' form) and > niacinimide, combined with lots of cayenne tincture (as much as you can > stand). The niacin 'flush' is a sign that it is working - niacin causes the > capillaries near the surface of the skin to expand greatly. Niacinimide, on > the other hand, works on the blood vessels and capillaries deep inside the > body - you may experience a 'creepy/crawly' sensation inside when taking > it - this is normal. > > Then, after taking these, perform hot/cold hydro-therapy on the affected > areas. An easy way to do this is in the shower. Get the water as hot as > you can stand it, mark where the faucet is set, then alternate between the > hot and cold. > > The hot/cold therapy is the absolute best way to 'get the blood moving', and > is an integral part of Dr Schulze's 'save your life' program. > > 3-5 days of this and you should see dramatic results - again, if the problem > is indeed a circulatory one. > > Try it - you just may be amazed! > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Dear Ron I had my son take my blood pressure while laying down last night. I'd been down for a while and knew it would be at its' best. My ankle was 116/63p78 , my calf was 120/56p84 and my leg just above my knee was 105/56 p 81. Laying down arm pressure was 107/48p88, but I'd been on heavy meds for a killer migraine all day. SO perhaps all of these were lower, too! Stupid me! I haven't thought to check it while sitting until I just noticed a small email from Dennis. I don't have high blood pressure in my whole body. . . just my lower body. In fact, my normal b.p. is about 112/70! Perhaps my legs are clogged from being in a @#$% wheelchair most of the last 9 years. Horrid fibromyalgia from constant injuries necessitated it. D*mn! I will do the morning glucometer test. I got the do it yourself kit for my son and myself. Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. I really am scared and in enormous pain. Kate Re: Peripheral artery disease > > > Do a morning glucometer test. Do not eat anything > after 8:00 pm and take the test when you rise in the > morning. Normal is 70-120 mg/dl. Under 70 is > HYPOGLYCEMIA, 120-140 is pre-diabetes, over 140 is > DIABETES. You may be surprised what this test shows. > It is very important to do this test before you eat, > drink or move about after waking. > > One of the quickest way to lower blood pressure is by > fasting. A one to three day fast can normally be > performed very safely. I prefer to juice fast with > fresh vegatable juices--about 600 calories per day. > And, I add a lot of liquid colloidal minerals to my > juice (about 1/3 of the liquid). The minerals are very > healthy and greatly reduce the hunger pains. Actually > they are eliminated...Ron Inda > > > --- Dennis wrote: > > Is it there when you are at rest sitting down? > > > > Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Re: RE: Peripheral artery disease > I take almost completely hot showers due to the horrid neuropathy. I'm > always surprised that my skin doesn't even redden. You'd think it'd > blister! I'll try the hot/cold treatment on my legs. Kate, I'm sorry to hear that you're in so much pain. The hot and cold treatments, from what I've been told by doctors who provide them at their clinic, are wonderfully effective. You can try 10 or 15 minutes on, 10 or 15 minutes off, and repeat the cycles. Some people have hot and cold water tubs handy for that purpose. Blessings, Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Ten to fifteen minutes!? Two to three is hard. The cold water's an enemy to my neuropathy. . . I have had Torticullis from the shock of a cooler swimming pool. Whew! Sounds like something the Scandinavians do in the winter:-) Kate Re: RE: Peripheral artery disease > > > > I take almost completely hot showers due to the horrid neuropathy. I'm > > always surprised that my skin doesn't even redden. You'd think it'd > > blister! I'll try the hot/cold treatment on my legs. > > > Kate, > I'm sorry to hear that you're in so much pain. > > The hot and cold treatments, from what I've been told by doctors who provide > them at their clinic, are wonderfully effective. You can try 10 or 15 > minutes on, 10 or 15 minutes off, and repeat the cycles. Some people have > hot and cold water tubs handy for that purpose. > > Blessings, > Nina > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Kate: The blood pressure in your ankle is supposed to be greater than the blood pressure in your arm (smaller diameter vessels=higher pressure). The ankle-arm-index is an accurate and reliable indicator of heart disease and its complications. An ankle/arm index of under 1.0 needs to be monitored carefully. If the ankle/arm ratio is .9 or less you may have serious cardiovascular disease or heart disease. 116(ankle)/107(arm)=1.08=>a safe range. Please check your morning fasting blood sugar level, Your pain is not blood pressure related. Please post your morning fasting blood sugar level to the group...Ron Inda --- mk wrote: > Dear Ron > I had my son take my blood pressure while laying > down last night. I'd been > down for a while and knew it would be at its' best. > My ankle was 116/63p78 > , my calf was 120/56p84 and my leg just above my > knee was 105/56 p 81. > Laying down arm pressure was 107/48p88, but I'd been > on heavy meds for a > killer migraine all day. SO perhaps all of these > were lower, too! Stupid > me! > I haven't thought to check it while sitting until I > just noticed a small > email from Dennis. > I don't have high blood pressure in my whole body. . > . just my lower body. > In fact, my normal b.p. is about 112/70! > Perhaps my legs are clogged from being in a @#$% > wheelchair most of the last > 9 years. Horrid fibromyalgia from constant injuries > necessitated it. > D*mn! > I will do the morning glucometer test. I got the do > it yourself kit for my > son and myself. > Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. I > really am scared and in > enormous pain. > Kate > Re: Peripheral artery disease > > > > > > > > Do a morning glucometer test. Do not eat anything > > after 8:00 pm and take the test when you rise in > the > > morning. Normal is 70-120 mg/dl. Under 70 is > > HYPOGLYCEMIA, 120-140 is pre-diabetes, over 140 is > > DIABETES. You may be surprised what this test > shows. > > It is very important to do this test before you > eat, > > drink or move about after waking. > > > > One of the quickest way to lower blood pressure is > by > > fasting. A one to three day fast can normally be > > performed very safely. I prefer to juice fast with > > fresh vegetable juices--about 600 calories per > day. > > And, I add a lot of liquid colloidal minerals to > my > > juice (about 1/3 of the liquid). The minerals are > very > > healthy and greatly reduce the hunger pains. > Actually > > they are eliminated...Ron Inda > > > > > > --- Dennis wrote: > > > Is it there when you are at rest sitting down? > > > > > > Dennis > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Re: RE: Peripheral artery disease > Ten to fifteen minutes!? > Two to three is hard. The cold water's an enemy to my neuropathy. . . I > have had Torticullis from the shock of a cooler swimming pool. > Whew! Sounds like something the Scandinavians do in the winter:-) > Kate Of course, Kate, tailor it to what you need. The reason early hydrotherapists used hot and cold water alternately was to stimulate the blood flow. Best, Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Good afternoon. I went through a long night not taking pain meds so that my glucose blood test would be okay. Took it this morning. It didn't work. The test strips are outdated. Didn't realize they expired so fast. Got them for my life insurance last year and after another okay test ignored them until now. Will redo tomorrow after new bottle purchased. OR maybe the doctor will order that on my new bloodwork. I'll get right back to you. Thanks again Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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