Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 CPAP or AutoPap machine that you wear at night is non-surgical remedy that some tolerate. Nasal device or full face mask are 2 options. The sleepnet website listed below has lots of messages you can read, and a whole community of people to send e-mail to who are dealing with Sleep Apnea. The main sleepnet page has other sleep disorders listed as well. Some websites: http://www.sleepnet.com/wwwboard/forum9.html http://www.apneanet.org/links.htm http://www.sleepmall.com/themall.html http://www.sleepapnea.org/ Another treatment which is not really surgery, but is a " physical " treatment is radio frequency. There's one company that has device to treat the affected areas. So they don't " cut " anything, they just apply these radio frequencies which is supposed to shrink the tissue. You can read more at: http://www.somnus.com/Sections/AboutSomnus/introFrame.html Good luck! Carol At 11:18 AM 10/30/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Hi. >Does anyone here know of ways to deal with sleep apnea in a non surgical >way? > >thanks, >dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 The magnetic sleep pads also can help sleep apnea. It does not help all kinds of sleep apnea. That is one of the reasons for the six month satisfaction guarantee. Here is a testimony from the web site. This man purchased a magnetic sleep pad to help his wife with MS and gained benefit himself unexpectedly. copied & pasted******* OBSTRUCTIVE SLEEP APNEA " ...I was using a nasal CPAP machine set at '10cm of water' to control my long-standing (over 25 years) obstructive sleep apnea. Without the CPAP machine I would stop breathing every 5 or 6 breaths for up to 30 seconds at a time. After only 2 months I found that I no longer needed the CPAP. I feel great... " A Chinn – ON ****************** Blessings Kallie , RN,(Ret.), EFT-CC > >Hi. > >Does anyone here know of ways to deal with sleep apnea in a non surgical > >way? > > > >thanks, > >dave > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Dear Dave, Two solutions: 1) CPAP which is a device which delivers air through a mask and provides positive pressure, preventing the tongue from falling back and blocking the passage. or 2) a bed that elevates the head, or a support under the mattress to do the same. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: sleep apnea Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:18:13 -0800 Hi. Does anyone here know of ways to deal with sleep apnea in a non surgical way? thanks, dave _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 One of the things that is part of SA is low O2 readings. I also have daytime O2 reading that change a lot. It has been recorded any where between 99% to 91% by the VA. It can be 97% can change to 94% then back to 97% in just a few minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites where sleep > > > > apnea > > > > > > seems to go with PA. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level device. I > > started > > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas with it so > > was > > > > > > changed to to Bi level device. > > > > > > > > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. Others I > > > > have > > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't get much > > > > sleep > > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other things > > on > > > > you > > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. It is > > > > hard to > > > > > > sleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep study and > > > > never > > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't see wow > > they > > > > can > > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't really see > > it > > > > has > > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records information on > > it. This > > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem some of > > you > > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep problem. So is > > > > the PA > > > > > > that is the sleep problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 rice takes little room. No salt no fluid retention.have you looked at ricediet.com?CE Grim MDOn May 16, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:I think that both my weight and fluid retention is why I have SA. Not sure how much the CPAP has helped. I still have nights where I don't get a lot of sleep. But this seems to be a problem with many that have PA.At this time I do not cook for myself. May have to change this but other changes will have to be made as well. Right now don't have much room to store my own food. > > > > >> > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites where sleep> > > > apnea> > > > > > seems to go with PA.> > > > > >> > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level device. I > > started> > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas with it so > > was> > > > > > changed to to Bi level device.> > > > > >> > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. Others I> > > > have> > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't get much> > > > sleep> > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other things > > on> > > > you> > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. It is> > > > hard to> > > > > > sleep.> > > > > >> > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep study and> > > > never> > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't see wow > > they> > > > can> > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works.> > > > > >> > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't really see > > it> > > > has> > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records information on > > it. This> > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems.> > > > > >> > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem some of > > you> > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep problem. So is> > > > the PA> > > > > > that is the sleep problem?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Yes it depends on how good the sensor is and how fast you breath. When it is low try deep breathing and it should go up unless you have bad lung disease. Ever smoked a pack a day? if so how many years?CE Grim MDOn May 16, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:One of the things that is part of SA is low O2 readings. I also have daytime O2 reading that change a lot. It has been recorded any where between 99% to 91% by the VA. It can be 97% can change to 94% then back to 97% in just a few minutes. > > > > >> > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites where sleep> > > > apnea> > > > > > seems to go with PA.> > > > > >> > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level device. I > > started> > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas with it so > > was> > > > > > changed to to Bi level device.> > > > > >> > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. Others I> > > > have> > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't get much> > > > sleep> > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other things > > on> > > > you> > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. It is> > > > hard to> > > > > > sleep.> > > > > >> > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep study and> > > > never> > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't see wow > > they> > > > can> > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works.> > > > > >> > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't really see > > it> > > > has> > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records information on > > it. This> > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems.> > > > > >> > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem some of > > you> > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep problem. So is> > > > the PA> > > > > > that is the sleep problem?> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 It has been about 40 years since I smoked. can't remember if I smoked a pack a day or not. Have some work related asbestos exposure. VA work up hasn't found any lung disease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites where > > sleep > > > > > > apnea > > > > > > > > seems to go with PA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level device. I > > > > started > > > > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas with it > > so > > > > was > > > > > > > > changed to to Bi level device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. > > Others I > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't > > get much > > > > > > sleep > > > > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other > > things > > > > on > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. > > It is > > > > > > hard to > > > > > > > > sleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep > > study and > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't see > > wow > > > > they > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't really > > see > > > > it > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records information on > > > > it. This > > > > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem > > some of > > > > you > > > > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep problem. > > So is > > > > > > the PA > > > > > > > > that is the sleep problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 That is good news. I seem to be seeing a lot of chronic lungers up here in N WI who were bad smokers. Well almost all chronic lungers are old smokers unless they have not gotten short of breath enough to quit yet.CE Grim MDOn May 16, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote:It has been about 40 years since I smoked. can't remember if I smoked a pack a day or not. Have some work related asbestos exposure. VA work up hasn't found any lung disease.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites where > > sleep> > > > > > apnea> > > > > > > > seems to go with PA.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level device. I> > > > started> > > > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas with it > > so> > > > was> > > > > > > > changed to to Bi level device.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. > > Others I> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't > > get much> > > > > > sleep> > > > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other > > things> > > > on> > > > > > you> > > > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. > > It is> > > > > > hard to> > > > > > > > sleep.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep > > study and> > > > > > never> > > > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't see > > wow> > > > they> > > > > > can> > > > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't really > > see> > > > it> > > > > > has> > > > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records information on> > > > it. This> > > > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem > > some of> > > > you> > > > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep problem. > > So is> > > > > > the PA> > > > > > > > that is the sleep problem?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Since I have shortness of breath it has to be from something else then lung problems. Most Old smokers don't stop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is sleep apnea part of PA? I have seen a few sites > > where > > > > sleep > > > > > > > > apnea > > > > > > > > > > seems to go with PA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been DX with it and use the CPAP Bi level > > device. I > > > > > > started > > > > > > > > > > on just the CPAP but seemed to have a lot of gas > > with it > > > > so > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > changed to to Bi level device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sleep study I believe is a some what flawed test. > > > > Others I > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > talked to tell me the same thing. most say they don't > > > > get much > > > > > > > > sleep > > > > > > > > > > during this test. Since they put many wires and other > > > > things > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > that are not part of the normal things you sleep with. > > > > It is > > > > > > > > hard to > > > > > > > > > > sleep. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you spend only one or two nights in the sleep > > > > study and > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > > get to sleep with out all the wires on you. I don't > > see > > > > wow > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > tell how good the CPAP device works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used this for over two years now and can't > > really > > > > see > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > helped a lot. There is a card that records > > information on > > > > > > it. This > > > > > > > > > > still shows I have some sleep problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As of yet I don't have the night time peeing problem > > > > some of > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > have. So don't think this is part of the sleep > > problem. > > > > So is > > > > > > > > the PA > > > > > > > > > > that is the sleep problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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