Re: TES electrical stimulation/long

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That is so cool that you tried TES too. I had a whole different experience

with it. told us it was not designed to contract the muscle but just to

vibrate the area to bring blood flow. She was so careful where we could even

put the lead wires. At the bottom of this article that I have attached you

can see where TES was designed to barely feel it. The 3rd paragraph says it

is not designed to bring the muscle to a contraction. Maybe you will want to

dust off your machine and try it again?? It was working as it was designed to

do so you didn't waste your money Why did the clinic close by you ??? Did

they go out of business or move? I remember Pape was located in Canada

so you were able to get the TES therapy before us so you were a real

pioneer. Good Job !! I wish we had talked years ago. My insurance covered the

TES

machines old model then the newer model.

_http://www.centerimtasheville.com/tes.htm_

(http://www.centerimtasheville.com/tes.htm)

_CenterIMT Asheville - Integrative Manual Therapy and Diagnostics_

(http://www.centerimtasheville.com/tes.htm)

jenny

CenterIMT

Electrical Stimulation

Is reversing the experience of poor sensation and/or muscle weakness a

primary focus for you? Two main electrical stimulation parameters will be

discussed with you. Threshold Electrical Stimulation (TES) parameters are vital

for

regaining sensory pathways and strengthening the very weak muscles. For areas

with full sensation, and muscle strength that is already beginning movement,

Neuromuscular Electrical Stimulation (NMES) parameters are used to contact

and further strengthen muscles.

TES, developed by Pape, M.D., is a very unique form of electrical

stimulation (ES) that is a key part of the home program for every client with

severe muscle weakness and/or with impaired sensation. TES parameters have

sda.proven to be effective in changing muscle bulk and strength, as well as

influencing the return of sensory pathways.

TES parameters do not cause a muscle contraction. TES stimulates only to the

point of sensory awareness. TES stimulates the growth of atrophic muscle

without risk. TES stimulates growth of wasted muscle by transmitting low-level

electrical impulses though the surface of the skin to underlying tissues.

This sensory level stimulation changes blood flow and capillary density. TES

also stimulates growth of motor and sensory nerves as well as muscle.

NMES is a traditional electrical stimulation parameter that produces a

forced muscle contraction. NMES is not indicated for very weak or insensate

fibers due to the risk of damage to delicate atrophied muscle fibers. However,

NMES parameters are highly indicated if your muscle strength has beginning

movement or greater, and you have normal sensation. NMES parameters stimulates

blood supply and growth of muscles, with overall strength changes. NMES may

also

be used to assist with coordination between muscle groups.

Your particular ES needs will be discussed thoroughly with you. If

indicated, an individualized TES and/or NMES treatment plan using standardized

protocols is assessed and set-up for each CenterIMT client with muscle weakness

and/or sensory deficits.

ES is performed by a small battery operated unit. TES treatment is at the

point of just barely being able to feel it (your sensory threshold), and is

performed at home, during sleep. NMES treatment producing muscle contraction is

practiced during your Center-based program, then is performed at home during

the day.

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CenterIMT Asheville

184 East Chestnut Street, Suite 2

Asheville, NC 28801

Phone: 828-250-0474 Fax: 828-250-0767

E-mail: _CIMTAsheville@..._ (mailto:cimtasheville@...)

[Guest guest]

Butting in here with no experience or knowledge whatsoever of the TES so please

forgive me if I'm incorrect...just giving an opinion...

It seems that, due to the actual nerve DAMAGE that exists with CMTers that this

device or any other device designed to rebuild muscle by using electrical

impulses transmitted via damaged nerves won't be affective and could cause more

nerve damage...right?

What medical professionals and others often misunderstand about CMT is that,

although it IS a peripheral neuropathy, the pathology (maybe wrong medicaleeze

here) is different for us than for other

peripheral neuropathies. Someone who has injured a nerve and has 'acquired' a

peripheral neuropathy because of it may benefit well from ES because the nerve

is repairable. Our nerves (in general) are not repairable because of our

genetic makeup.

It's not our muscles that are damaged, it's the nerves that tell the muscles to

move that have the problem. Rebuilding muscle tissue using electrical

stimulation just doesn't seem logical to me for a CMTer.

I just tried AGAIN yesterday to explain this to my mother and husband, both very

smart individuals. It is hard to get a handle around the fact that if your

muscles are atrophying, you should work them more but working them more doesn't

help because it's not the

muscles with the problems but the signals to the muscles (nerves). If the

signals aren't getting there effectively, the muscles are still going to

atrophy, the nerves are going to 'fray' a little bit more, and your body is

going to be exhausted.

Just my non-medical observation...