Re: How to know when cytoflora not helping?

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Vicky,

THank you for your post. I have been emailing with Tami from Bioray. She is

very nice to talk with. But I feel we are experiencing same thing you have with

it. When you increased it what type of problems did you encounter? We

encounter increased intestinal pain, increased outbursts, increased mucous,

bowels slow way down. She is on Natural Calm(magnesium)to keep things soft and

is dependent on enemas as well.

What is the Manuka honey 10+ with ACV you mention? I don't know what that is.

My daughter also has reflux and stool tests show overgrowth of these 2

bacterias: Proteus Vulgaris and ii. And has low growth of

beneficial bacteria and no growth of e.coli(which there is suppose to be some in

a healthy bowel). Would love to hear more about this product.

Thank you so very much.

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worth cytoflora wasn't good here, low drops produced nothing and increase caused

major problems.

> I'm using Manuka honey 10+ for bacteria and reflux [with ACV] been absolutely

brilliant.

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> I am wondering if we should stop using cytoflora? Are there guidelines to go

by to determine if it isn't helping bacterial overgrowth. My daughter is up to

6 drops in the morning with no improvement in her gut pain or outbursts. She

has been at this amount for couple weeks. If we go above this she gets worse.

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Mandi,

Thank you for your post. I have been in communication with Tami. She is so

very nice to talk with. We have tried her suggestions but I am feeling

cytoflora might not be the ticket for my daughter so wanting to see what other

parents experiences with it are both pros and cons.

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> Mandi x

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> I am wondering if we should stop using cytoflora? Are there guidelines to

> go by to determine if it isn't helping bacterial overgrowth. My daughter is

> up to 6 drops in the morning with no improvement in her gut pain or

> outbursts. She has been at this amount for couple weeks. If we go above this

she

> gets worse.

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Mandi,

Thank you for your post. I have been in communication with Tami. She is so

very nice to talk with. We have tried her suggestions but I am feeling

cytoflora might not be the ticket for my daughter so wanting to see what other

parents experiences with it are both pros and cons.

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> I would contact Tami Wilken at Bioray and explain your daughters issues and

> see what she says, very helpful and experiencd mum who works for them

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> Mandi x

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> In a message dated 13/01/2011 20:11:50 GMT Standard Time,

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> I am wondering if we should stop using cytoflora? Are there guidelines to

> go by to determine if it isn't helping bacterial overgrowth. My daughter is

> up to 6 drops in the morning with no improvement in her gut pain or

> outbursts. She has been at this amount for couple weeks. If we go above this

she

> gets worse.

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Seen pretty much the same as you, rage, pain, constipation, tried dropping back down then back up again but still the same.

Maybe just not for , thought I was the only one as everyone else sees such good things.

Anyway Manuka honey is antibacterial, try googling the New Zealand Honey company for more information, can't work out how to do a link. I'm giving him the honey with 2 tsp of apple cider vingar [acv] for reflux and it really works! Nothing has touched his reflux like this, it has to be taken before meals and it's a bit icky to be honest but we are dead lucky in that will swallow anything.

The best thing is that we are killing two birds with one stone, bacteria and the ever present reflux problem.

Asda sell Manuka honey 10+ for around £12 per jar, lasts ages, the number refers to the antibacterial strength, has to be Manuka honey to get this.

We are getting nice once a day BM's and no evidence of any pain or discomfort.

Vicky

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> I am wondering if we should stop using cytoflora? Are there guidelines to go by to determine if it isn't helping bacterial overgrowth. My daughter is up to 6 drops in the morning with no improvement in her gut pain or outbursts. She has been at this amount for couple weeks. If we go above this she gets worse.

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Seen pretty much the same as you, rage, pain, constipation, tried dropping back down then back up again but still the same.

Maybe just not for , thought I was the only one as everyone else sees such good things.

Anyway Manuka honey is antibacterial, try googling the New Zealand Honey company for more information, can't work out how to do a link. I'm giving him the honey with 2 tsp of apple cider vingar [acv] for reflux and it really works! Nothing has touched his reflux like this, it has to be taken before meals and it's a bit icky to be honest but we are dead lucky in that will swallow anything.

The best thing is that we are killing two birds with one stone, bacteria and the ever present reflux problem.

Asda sell Manuka honey 10+ for around £12 per jar, lasts ages, the number refers to the antibacterial strength, has to be Manuka honey to get this.

We are getting nice once a day BM's and no evidence of any pain or discomfort.

Vicky

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> I am wondering if we should stop using cytoflora? Are there guidelines to go by to determine if it isn't helping bacterial overgrowth. My daughter is up to 6 drops in the morning with no improvement in her gut pain or outbursts. She has been at this amount for couple weeks. If we go above this she gets worse.

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