Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

[Guest guest]

You've got my vote. And I'll even vote often, even though I'm not from Chicago.

Hi ,I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word "education" :-)Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw food each day.While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national level.Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure 80% of the population for free.The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10 doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies like 's broken arm.Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-) can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA, can run the FBI :-)All our problems solved !Sincerely,Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech,I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up health care for everyone. If so-called "socialist medicine" is somehow "communist", then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better than others, but none of them have the problems of the "capitalist" medicine (to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive scam to be honest.Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in the USA.How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some treatments at your local naturopath.Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the only ones to really lose out with a better system).Do you consider your fire service and police force to be "communist" by the way?RegardsModeratorP.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

You've got my vote. And I'll even vote often, even though I'm not from Chicago.

Hi ,I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word "education" :-)Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw food each day.While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national level.Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure 80% of the population for free.The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10 doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies like 's broken arm.Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-) can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA, can run the FBI :-)All our problems solved !Sincerely,Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech,I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up health care for everyone. If so-called "socialist medicine" is somehow "communist", then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better than others, but none of them have the problems of the "capitalist" medicine (to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive scam to be honest.Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in the USA.How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some treatments at your local naturopath.Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the only ones to really lose out with a better system).Do you consider your fire service and police force to be "communist" by the way?RegardsModeratorP.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

You've got my vote. And I'll even vote often, even though I'm not from Chicago.

Hi ,I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word "education" :-)Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw food each day.While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national level.Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure 80% of the population for free.The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10 doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies like 's broken arm.Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-) can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA, can run the FBI :-)All our problems solved !Sincerely,Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech,I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up health care for everyone. If so-called "socialist medicine" is somehow "communist", then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better than others, but none of them have the problems of the "capitalist" medicine (to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive scam to be honest.Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in the USA.How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some treatments at your local naturopath.Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the only ones to really lose out with a better system).Do you consider your fire service and police force to be "communist" by the way?RegardsModeratorP.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

Lovely thoughts - however, what do we do about the current people (probably many of your own relatives if you are honest) who haven't followed this enlightened advice? Should we just let them die in the streets and then get a big bulldozer and plow them into a hole? We (read all of us Americans) have a problem called lack of adequate health care for many of our citizens. We call ourselves a "great nation" - I don't think a great nation would allow that to happen. So, its easy to pontifiate about "wellness" but that isn't the situation now is it?

R

[Guest guest]

Amen ! Truer words never spoken!

doug

[Guest guest]

Amen ! Truer words never spoken!

doug

[Guest guest]

Amen ! Truer words never spoken!

doug

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word

" education " :-)

Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every

household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.

Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the

time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw

food each day.

While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating

farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food

production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national

level.

Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the

nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure

80% of the population for free.

The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain

free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in

their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.

Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10

doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies

like 's broken arm.

Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-)

can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA,

can run the FBI :-)

All our problems solved !

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

HealMe Foundation

A New Humanity Associate

Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

,

I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up

health care for everyone. If so-called " socialist medicine " is somehow

" communist " , then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in

the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have

missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).

Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own

form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better

than others, but none of them have the problems of the " capitalist " medicine

(to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are

totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This

results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to

health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive

scam to be honest.

Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor

health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do

have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.

I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no

shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over

here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in

the USA.

How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to

take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual

health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the

costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do

you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)

By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some

treatments at your local naturopath.

Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the

only ones to really lose out with a better system).

Do you consider your fire service and police force to be " communist " by the

way?

Regards

Moderator

P.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before

enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word

" education " :-)

Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every

household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.

Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the

time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw

food each day.

While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating

farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food

production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national

level.

Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the

nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure

80% of the population for free.

The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain

free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in

their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.

Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10

doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies

like 's broken arm.

Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-)

can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA,

can run the FBI :-)

All our problems solved !

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

HealMe Foundation

A New Humanity Associate

Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

,

I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up

health care for everyone. If so-called " socialist medicine " is somehow

" communist " , then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in

the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have

missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).

Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own

form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better

than others, but none of them have the problems of the " capitalist " medicine

(to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are

totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This

results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to

health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive

scam to be honest.

Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor

health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do

have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.

I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no

shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over

here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in

the USA.

How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to

take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual

health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the

costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do

you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)

By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some

treatments at your local naturopath.

Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the

only ones to really lose out with a better system).

Do you consider your fire service and police force to be " communist " by the

way?

Regards

Moderator

P.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before

enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've got a good idea for health insurance. It's called that ugly word

" education " :-)

Rife frequency therapy does work, good, lets place a machine in every

household. The bugs and invaders are now taken care off.

Next is nutrition, and it has to start in the early school years so by the

time our children are hitting their teens, they are eating more than 50% raw

food each day.

While waiting for the Agriculture industry to wake-up and starts educating

farmers about all the minerals needed to be in the soils for healthy food

production, then mineral supplementation should be happening at the national

level.

Some minor research into IBT (Incline Bed Therapy) should be done so the

nation can switch over to this method of sleeping - this alone would cure

80% of the population for free.

The sickness industry will collapse as all Americans become vital, pain

free, live an extra 20 years and the word retirement is only for those in

their final days after being on this planet for 110+ productive years.

Now we only need 1 doctor to service a 20,000 community instead of 10

doctors which is the current stats. These doctors can look after emergencies

like 's broken arm.

Vote 1 for President ... Ken Uzzell :-)

can run the Federal Reserve and Jim Bare can organize the FDA,

can run the FBI :-)

All our problems solved !

Sincerely,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

HealMe Foundation

A New Humanity Associate

Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

,

I am always amazed at the fear of some people at the thought of opening up

health care for everyone. If so-called " socialist medicine " is somehow

" communist " , then the USA must be about the only non-communist country in

the world (now how did I miss that all of Europe is communist, must have

missed that when the Berlin Wall came down).

Over here in Europe, just about every western European state has their own

form of health care for all - and they all work fine. Sure, some are better

than others, but none of them have the problems of the " capitalist " medicine

(to use your form of speaking) where a large section of your people are

totally uninsured and those that are are often not properly covered. This

results in so many people losing their life savings, houses, etc. due to

health reasons. You call that a good system? I would call it an expensive

scam to be honest.

Americans have one of the most expensive health systems, yet provide poor

health care coverage to a large proportion of your population. Those that do

have insurance, have to pay large premiums as well.

I live in Germany, which has one of the world's best health systems with no

shortage of well equipped doctors, hospitals, etc. Everyone is covered over

here with no exceptions, yet the prices are considerably lower than those in

the USA.

How on earth can you guys want to keep your current system. If you were to

take on a system like in Germany (France or even the UK), your individual

health care costs would be reduced, not increased as more people share the

costs and the insurance companies profits do not need to be paid on top (do

you perhaps work for an insurance company by the way?)

By the way, many health care providers over here will even cover some

treatments at your local naturopath.

Don't believe the propaganda your insurance companies are putting out (the

only ones to really lose out with a better system).

Do you consider your fire service and police force to be " communist " by the

way?

Regards

Moderator

P.S: Let us now close this discussion. It has been discussed here before

enough times. Let us talk about Rife instead.

[Guest guest]

The situation is what you personally focus upon and what is important to you. It is your truth and no-one elses.

Take responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming the Government for not looking after you.

You don't want America to become the Nanny Nation - but this is what you are creating by lack of eduction.

The Churches and community organisations can help in their local community with the needy and desperate situation.

If you see big bulldozers plowing the needy into holes, then I'd say some Salmon Oil and Vitamin C and B complexes might help with your own personal picture of your environment.

Take care.

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate

Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

Lovely thoughts - however, what do we do about the current people (probably many of your own relatives if you are honest) who haven't followed this enlightened advice? Should we just let them die in the streets and then get a big bulldozer and plow them into a hole? We (read all of us Americans) have a problem called lack of adequate health care for many of our citizens. We call ourselves a "great nation" - I don't think a great nation would allow that to happen. So, its easy to pontifiate about "wellness" but that isn't the situation now is it?

R

[Guest guest]

The situation is what you personally focus upon and what is important to you. It is your truth and no-one elses.

Take responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming the Government for not looking after you.

You don't want America to become the Nanny Nation - but this is what you are creating by lack of eduction.

The Churches and community organisations can help in their local community with the needy and desperate situation.

If you see big bulldozers plowing the needy into holes, then I'd say some Salmon Oil and Vitamin C and B complexes might help with your own personal picture of your environment.

Take care.

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate

Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

Lovely thoughts - however, what do we do about the current people (probably many of your own relatives if you are honest) who haven't followed this enlightened advice? Should we just let them die in the streets and then get a big bulldozer and plow them into a hole? We (read all of us Americans) have a problem called lack of adequate health care for many of our citizens. We call ourselves a "great nation" - I don't think a great nation would allow that to happen. So, its easy to pontifiate about "wellness" but that isn't the situation now is it?

R

[Guest guest]

The situation is what you personally focus upon and what is important to you. It is your truth and no-one elses.

Take responsibility for ourselves and stop blaming the Government for not looking after you.

You don't want America to become the Nanny Nation - but this is what you are creating by lack of eduction.

The Churches and community organisations can help in their local community with the needy and desperate situation.

If you see big bulldozers plowing the needy into holes, then I'd say some Salmon Oil and Vitamin C and B complexes might help with your own personal picture of your environment.

Take care.

Ken Uzzellhttp://heal-me.com.auHealMe FoundationA New Humanity Associate

Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

Lovely thoughts - however, what do we do about the current people (probably many of your own relatives if you are honest) who haven't followed this enlightened advice? Should we just let them die in the streets and then get a big bulldozer and plow them into a hole? We (read all of us Americans) have a problem called lack of adequate health care for many of our citizens. We call ourselves a "great nation" - I don't think a great nation would allow that to happen. So, its easy to pontifiate about "wellness" but that isn't the situation now is it?

R

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

You like all of us who are concerned need to write our senators adn congressmen/women to express your concerns.

Universal healthcare does work, and it works will in every industrialized country in the world.

Angie

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 4:21 PM

THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to $650.00 a month for the exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business tactics to get the sale. > >> >> > From: ubiquitousdave <michaelteachings@ gmail.com>> > Subject: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech> > To: Teachings@ yahoogroups. com> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:41 PM> >> >> > > >> > Best speech I've heard him give thus far. He's definitely not going down without a fight, and I think tonight's speech might be an

historic one.> >> > I was dismayed by the Republicans in attendance. They were noticeably rude and seemingly unwilling to put old politics behind them. Such nonsense. It's time to do the right thing.> >> > Best,> > Dave> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> >

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

You like all of us who are concerned need to write our senators adn congressmen/women to express your concerns.

Universal healthcare does work, and it works will in every industrialized country in the world.

Angie

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 4:21 PM

THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to $650.00 a month for the exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business tactics to get the sale. > >> >> > From: ubiquitousdave <michaelteachings@ gmail.com>> > Subject: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech> > To: Teachings@ yahoogroups. com> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:41 PM> >> >> > > >> > Best speech I've heard him give thus far. He's definitely not going down without a fight, and I think tonight's speech might be an

historic one.> >> > I was dismayed by the Republicans in attendance. They were noticeably rude and seemingly unwilling to put old politics behind them. Such nonsense. It's time to do the right thing.> >> > Best,> > Dave> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> >

[Guest guest]

Pam:

I was carrying catastrophe insurance for awhile but it started going up

30% a year and I started banking the money and working at staying

healthy. I never really did believe that, if they let you pay the

first 5k or 10K, that their premiums should have escalated to match

full coverage insurance escalation. Catastrophe only made sense for a

few years and I dumped it.

You are a great example of what I found. Even though you never had a

claim, they were still using you to pay for all those that did. With a

no claim history, your premium should have been peanuts compared to the

guy who was sick all the time but you were both paying the same. The

way to shut this down is to starve them into submission and we cannot

do that as long as we listen to medical doctors trained by big medicine

to brain wash the rats to believe that death is at every corner just

waiting on a warm body. The average American over 40 is on 2 to 5

prescription drugs for the rest of their life. I would like to have

that income stream and would kill to get it and that is what Big Pharma

and Big Medicine are doing. Works for them and will continue to work

for them until we back up and say HELL NO.

Harvey in Houston

spicer_pamela wrote:

THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what

we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health

insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid

the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband

and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to $650.00 a month for the

exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my

coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER

used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual

physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health

and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy

business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on

Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business

tactics to get the sale.

..

[Guest guest]

Thank you Pamela,I'd happily trade our private enterprise, profit driven, people killing insurance based, Republican supported, health care disaster for Germany's socialized system. In Germany the average life expectancy for ovarian cancer is 11 years and in your system it is 5 years. Better health care for all the people and it costs LESS than what we pay. Dr. Flaig From:

spicer_pamela To: Rife Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 1:21:12 PMSubject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to

$650.00 a month for the exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business tactics to get the sale. > > > > > > From: ubiquitousdave <michaelteachings@ gmail.com> > > Subject: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech > > To: Teachings@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > Best speech I've heard him give thus far. He's definitely not going down without a fight, and I think tonight's speech might be an historic one. > > > > I was dismayed by the Republicans in attendance. They were noticeably rude and seemingly unwilling to put old politics behind them. Such nonsense. It's time to do the right thing. > > > > Best, > > Dave > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________

_________ _________ __ > >

[Guest guest]

Why should I believe that letting government run my doctor's office will make my health care better?

A friend of mine made an interesting point:"The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775, Social Security was

established in 1935, Fannie Mae was established in 1938, Freddie Mac

was established in 1970, Medicare and Medicaid were established in

1965, AMTRAK was established in 1970, Cash for Clunkers established

2009. All are broke, and people ask why I object to government control

of health care. Would you put your health in a company with a 0%

success rate?"No, I don't think it's worth ruining 90% of the people's health care. Let them prove they can fix Medicare and put the 10% on that. JeffTo: Rife Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:46:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

Pamela,

You like all of us who are concerned need to write our senators adn congressmen/women to express your concerns.

Universal healthcare does work, and it works will in every industrialized country in the world.

Angie

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 4:21 PM

THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to $650.00 a month for the exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business tactics to get the sale. > >> >> > From: ubiquitousdave <michaelteachings@ gmail.com>> > Subject: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech> > To: Teachings@ yahoogroups. com> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:41 PM> >> >> > > >> > Best speech I've heard him give thus far. He's definitely not going down without a fight,

and I think tonight's speech might be an

historic one.> >> > I was dismayed by the Republicans in attendance. They were noticeably rude and seemingly unwilling to put old politics behind them. Such nonsense. It's time to do the right thing.> >> > Best,> > Dave> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> >

[Guest guest]

Why should I believe that letting government run my doctor's office will make my health care better?

A friend of mine made an interesting point:"The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775, Social Security was

established in 1935, Fannie Mae was established in 1938, Freddie Mac

was established in 1970, Medicare and Medicaid were established in

1965, AMTRAK was established in 1970, Cash for Clunkers established

2009. All are broke, and people ask why I object to government control

of health care. Would you put your health in a company with a 0%

success rate?"No, I don't think it's worth ruining 90% of the people's health care. Let them prove they can fix Medicare and put the 10% on that. JeffTo: Rife Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:46:11 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech

Pamela,

You like all of us who are concerned need to write our senators adn congressmen/women to express your concerns.

Universal healthcare does work, and it works will in every industrialized country in the world.

Angie

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 4:21 PM

THANK YOU! And well said. If socialized medicine is bad then what we currently have is the most evil of evils. This month I let my health insurance lapse. My coverage was for catastrophic, meaning that I paid the first $7,500.00. My premium was $550.00 per month for my husband and I. Two months ago my insurance went up to $650.00 a month for the exact same coverage. And When I turned 50 years of age last month, my coverage went up to $750.00 per month. Did I mention that I have NEVER used this insurance because it didn't even provide for an annual physical. I thank God daily for providing me with extremely good health and the intelligence to know that the majority of Med Docs are greedy business people who are always looking to up-sell their patients on Drugs and Surgery and they are NOT above using deceptive business tactics to get the sale. > >> >> > From: ubiquitousdave <michaelteachings@ gmail.com>> > Subject: [Teachings] OT: Obama's Speech> > To: Teachings@ yahoogroups. com> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 9:41 PM> >> >> > > >> > Best speech I've heard him give thus far. He's definitely not going down without a fight,

and I think tonight's speech might be an

historic one.> >> > I was dismayed by the Republicans in attendance. They were noticeably rude and seemingly unwilling to put old politics behind them. Such nonsense. It's time to do the right thing.> >> > Best,> > Dave> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __> >

[Guest guest]

Carol:

You totally missed something. I carry lots of liability AS THE STATE

REQUIRES. Car loan companies are interested in your collision

insurance which I do not carry as I have never made a car payment.

However, we have thousands of illegals driving with no insurance, maybe

30% of our population. When they get a ticket, unless they lock them

up and make them post bond to get out, they just do not show up for the

court date.

Until you are pulled over in the state of Texas, they have not a clue of

whether you have insurance.

Liability is peanuts compared to collision on a new vehicle.

H.

wildman350smom wrote:

>

>

> harvey,

> what state are you in that you can get your cars inspected without car

> insurance??? here in pa it's a law that all cars carry insurance.

> you get stopped by a cop no insurance you get in trouble...

>

> carol

>

>

> >

> > :

> >

> > I do not insure my cars as I can afford the loss. I do not insure my

> > home as I can afford the loss. I carry lots of liability to protect me

> > from the thieves as I cannot shoot them.

> >

>

> >

> > H.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carol:

You totally missed something. I carry lots of liability AS THE STATE

REQUIRES. Car loan companies are interested in your collision

insurance which I do not carry as I have never made a car payment.

However, we have thousands of illegals driving with no insurance, maybe

30% of our population. When they get a ticket, unless they lock them

up and make them post bond to get out, they just do not show up for the

court date.

Until you are pulled over in the state of Texas, they have not a clue of

whether you have insurance.

Liability is peanuts compared to collision on a new vehicle.

H.

wildman350smom wrote:

>

>

> harvey,

> what state are you in that you can get your cars inspected without car

> insurance??? here in pa it's a law that all cars carry insurance.

> you get stopped by a cop no insurance you get in trouble...

>

> carol

>

>

> >

> > :

> >

> > I do not insure my cars as I can afford the loss. I do not insure my

> > home as I can afford the loss. I carry lots of liability to protect me

> > from the thieves as I cannot shoot them.

> >

>

> >

> > H.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carol:

You totally missed something. I carry lots of liability AS THE STATE

REQUIRES. Car loan companies are interested in your collision

insurance which I do not carry as I have never made a car payment.

However, we have thousands of illegals driving with no insurance, maybe

30% of our population. When they get a ticket, unless they lock them

up and make them post bond to get out, they just do not show up for the

court date.

Until you are pulled over in the state of Texas, they have not a clue of

whether you have insurance.

Liability is peanuts compared to collision on a new vehicle.

H.

wildman350smom wrote:

>

>

> harvey,

> what state are you in that you can get your cars inspected without car

> insurance??? here in pa it's a law that all cars carry insurance.

> you get stopped by a cop no insurance you get in trouble...

>

> carol

>

>

> >

> > :

> >

> > I do not insure my cars as I can afford the loss. I do not insure my

> > home as I can afford the loss. I carry lots of liability to protect me

> > from the thieves as I cannot shoot them.

> >

>

> >

> > H.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Germany was totally rebuilt after the war by America except for the big

Pharma infrastructures that were totally left alone by the bombing.

Germany today is much more modern in their manufacturing plants than the

US. However, they absolutely cannot compete in the world markets even

with this modernization that took place after WWII.

I am still missing the answer to my question of how much have you paid

and how much have you drawn down.

If you have not a clue, you are so " tunneled " into the system that you

have never asked yourself the question.

You unemployment health insurance is about to take one terrible hit

which Germany cannot afford.

You cannot afford to pay people for not working as it leads to the mind

set of, " why work when we can get paid for not working " .

This is socialism.

In the next five years, you will see this come home to bite the German

system big time. This is exactly what broke our automobile Unions in

the US as they promised the moon in health care, pensions and money for

not working to go along with the $80 per hour wages for unskilled labor.

Germany has a very small land area compared to the US but it has 1/4 of

our population that now must compete against Chinese and Indian labor

and they can't do it. The US can't do it. $80 and hour for automobile

assemblers is hysterical compared to Chinese and Indian rates. With 80

million people, I see little hope for Germany to continue to compete in

the world economy. Germany is a consumer in the natural resource

area. Look at every category shown here and you do not see Germany

exporting much. They are consumers.

http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=de & product=coal & graph=production+c\

onsumption

What they export has to be labor dependent to try to sustain 80 million

people. Germany is about to go through a terrible reformation as they

will be forced to compete against labor markets that are an order of

magnitude or more below their present levels.

It will be interesting to see if your elections give you any clue of

this or if the politicians only feed the " rats " what they want to hear

so they will re-elect the politicians.

Germany can no longer afford your health care system because you cannot

maintain an income stream into any country unless the population in that

country can manufacture something that can be sold to the outside world

to produce a positive balance of trade.

You cannot run the printing presses and keep your heath care and

unemployment system thriving as they are not sustainable. When you tell

me that Germany is creating jobs every month and is selling a lot more

than they are consuming, then I can be led to believe that there might

be money for " free lunches " or " from each according to his ability and

to each according to his need " .

I am of the opinion that the mind set of most Germans right now is to

not help the small and failing countries in the EU as the patriotic

German would rather think in terms of the days when Germany was first

and the Mark was the currency.

If this mindset is developing with only 27 countries and they no longer

like the idea country to country of, " from each according to their

ability and to each according to their need " , then this will soon

trickle down to the individual level.

Once the money is no longer there (and I think most of your banks are

really broke now, this morning, this instant ---- if they had to mark

their assets to the market) just like most US banks are broke, then

this one size fits all mentality will sublime to something much more

materialistic like, " I want mine first and could care less about the

other guys later " .

This is true human nature and not, " I'm going to work hard to earn $50

and I am going to split it with four other guys who are too lazy to work

so we will all feel good with $10 each from the fruits of only my labor.

This is your health care system and it cannot be sustained.

I have not a clue but a very interesting stat would be for you to track

1. Money taken from all working German Citizens to support your health

care and unemployment

2. Money paid out to non working German Citizens for health care and

unemployment

3. Money paid out to working German Citizens for health care.

I think you will see these number dramatically shifting for what you

think is the norm from the past as I have heard from more than one

source that German banks may be even more leveraged than US banks and

you may be on the tip of the ice berg in what will soon jump up in

unemployment.

Your politicians cannot let this be known and will do everything they

can to keep a lid on it until after elections.

Promise them the moon and, once you get in, deliver them a salad bowl

and lie to them enough times to make them believe the salad bowl is

really the moon.

I will watch your elections to see if they follow the same path that our

US election has followed. Promise them " CHANGE " with no details and

fumble and flounder around after the election while you steal all of

their money to make them think that they are about to get their economy

fixed when it cannot be fixed until you mark all toxic assets to the

market and start over just like Germany did after the war.

If you want to read something very scary, go read about Germany's

hyperinflation. If the printing presses are run to solve your present

problem and if the US runs the printing presses to solve their present

problems, we could again see this in both countries because paper has no

value. The Euro and the Dollar are backed by nothing. Paper has value

until you print ink on even one side of it and tell the Citizenry that

it represents concentrated life. Sooner or later, they will wake up and

know.

http://www.usagold.com/germannightmare.html

It is my understanding that money became so worthless that it was burned

for warmth as it produced more heat than the wood it would buy.

Heath Care as Germany now knows it and as the US now knows it is not

sustainable as we try to march out from under what will probably be the

worst depression of all time. What you could sustain in the last 20

years will seem like a fairy tale of what you can sustain in the next 20.

H.

Rife_forum wrote:

>

>

> Hi Harvey,

> sounds like you are being reckless with taking risks. sure, it can pay

> off for a number of years, but you never know when you will really

> need it.

>

> Here in Germany, car (if you have one that is) and health insurance

> are required. If you are earning money, it will cost you 14.9% of your

> earnings (

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.medicine-no.com/ more on the drug mfg.

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:32 PM

Most people in the U.S. that are insured are still at great financial risk. There are many exclusions, co-pays, fine print, etc., and all too often in this country one is compelled to litigate with an insurance company to get the coverage they paid for. Lately there have been stories in our news media about new proposed governmental/ private insurance type O'Bama care death boards who will decide, based upon age and economic circumstances who shall receive coverage and those who will not. Shocking isn't it! Guess what, these boards already exist, they are the gate keeppers that answer the phone at the insurance company. Before anyone can use their insurance (outside of emergencies) they must obtain permission. Its a cruel joke to be sure. But that is the present state of medical insurance coverage in this country. Knowing that I will fall between the cracks anyway, I canceled my health coverage years ago as I would lose in the end anyway

regardless whether I was covered by insurance or not.Our citizens have foolishly repeatedly re-elected politicians who have made careers out of taking bribes and playing favorites with the industries they are supposed to regulate. The present situation in our country is the same as it was in the wild west movies the world has so enjoyed for the better part of a half century. The scenery has changed, of course, the mode of transportation differs greatly but the six shooter is alive and well and is commonly carried by our citizens on the streets now concealed, of course, the purpose for carrying a weapon for one's protection is still required because we tolerate crime and elect representatives who do nothing about it. Our prisons are full of petty drug dealers who compete with our elite in the drug industry taking up valuable space for violent repeat offenders who are turned back out onto the streets because there isn't room for them in the

over-crowded prison system. The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other country in the world. You see Guantanamo, I see it everywhere here. FEMA now has over 800 idle concentration camps manned and ready for civil unrest that our leaders have anticipated when they attack us again as they did on 09/11/2001. Almost 50% of our population has indicated that they know the attack on the World Trance Center was an inside job. Our health care system is owned and operated by organized crime. There are no cures here, no one gets what the cure they think they are paying for and even if somehow such care would be provided free to all our citizens as it should, the possibility of surviving any medical encounter whether or not insured is dismal at best. If I could afford to leave America, I would. Living in our health system is a grandiose game of Russian roulette. Carmi Hazen> >> > Why in the world do you think that $430 a month is any bargain for your > > health care? This absolutely blows my mind. Why should a man of your > > age really think that $5000 a year to take care of your health is justified?> > > > That is like not insuring your car because you have not had an accident yet. It will catch up with you some time.> > Sure, I mainly use Rife and natural medicine (which is partly covered by my health

plan), but you never know when you might need emergency treatment or some expensive therapy. > > I am quite happy to pay those dues and have piece of mind. Compared to the kind of charges quoted for the USA with limited cover, it sounds like I have a great deal.> > I have had a few times when I have needed the health cover and was always happy with the quality and speed of the system here.> > Regards> > >

[Guest guest]

http://www.medicine-no.com/ more on the drug mfg.

Subject: Re: Fw: [Teachings] OT: Obama's SpeechTo: Rife Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:32 PM

Most people in the U.S. that are insured are still at great financial risk. There are many exclusions, co-pays, fine print, etc., and all too often in this country one is compelled to litigate with an insurance company to get the coverage they paid for. Lately there have been stories in our news media about new proposed governmental/ private insurance type O'Bama care death boards who will decide, based upon age and economic circumstances who shall receive coverage and those who will not. Shocking isn't it! Guess what, these boards already exist, they are the gate keeppers that answer the phone at the insurance company. Before anyone can use their insurance (outside of emergencies) they must obtain permission. Its a cruel joke to be sure. But that is the present state of medical insurance coverage in this country. Knowing that I will fall between the cracks anyway, I canceled my health coverage years ago as I would lose in the end anyway

regardless whether I was covered by insurance or not.Our citizens have foolishly repeatedly re-elected politicians who have made careers out of taking bribes and playing favorites with the industries they are supposed to regulate. The present situation in our country is the same as it was in the wild west movies the world has so enjoyed for the better part of a half century. The scenery has changed, of course, the mode of transportation differs greatly but the six shooter is alive and well and is commonly carried by our citizens on the streets now concealed, of course, the purpose for carrying a weapon for one's protection is still required because we tolerate crime and elect representatives who do nothing about it. Our prisons are full of petty drug dealers who compete with our elite in the drug industry taking up valuable space for violent repeat offenders who are turned back out onto the streets because there isn't room for them in the

over-crowded prison system. The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other country in the world. You see Guantanamo, I see it everywhere here. FEMA now has over 800 idle concentration camps manned and ready for civil unrest that our leaders have anticipated when they attack us again as they did on 09/11/2001. Almost 50% of our population has indicated that they know the attack on the World Trance Center was an inside job. Our health care system is owned and operated by organized crime. There are no cures here, no one gets what the cure they think they are paying for and even if somehow such care would be provided free to all our citizens as it should, the possibility of surviving any medical encounter whether or not insured is dismal at best. If I could afford to leave America, I would. Living in our health system is a grandiose game of Russian roulette. Carmi Hazen> >> > Why in the world do you think that $430 a month is any bargain for your > > health care? This absolutely blows my mind. Why should a man of your > > age really think that $5000 a year to take care of your health is justified?> > > > That is like not insuring your car because you have not had an accident yet. It will catch up with you some time.> > Sure, I mainly use Rife and natural medicine (which is partly covered by my health

plan), but you never know when you might need emergency treatment or some expensive therapy. > > I am quite happy to pay those dues and have piece of mind. Compared to the kind of charges quoted for the USA with limited cover, it sounds like I have a great deal.> > I have had a few times when I have needed the health cover and was always happy with the quality and speed of the system here.> > Regards> > >