Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Thanks for all the help on the birthing goat. My friend did not keep records of when the kid is due. She has no idea how to check the dialation, etc. I sent her to fiascofarm.com where there is good information on birthing problems and emergencies with pictures. She cannot afford a vet bill, so she is open to any help. I'll get back to you all when I know more. Thanks again. Darlene To: RawDairy Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 6:13:09 PMSubject: re: birthing queston It sounds like the kid or kids might be stuck in the birthing canal. Has the owner/caretaker of this goat attempted to feel inside to see what is going on? If a kid is crosswise in the birthing canal - the kid will not come out, will die, and then so will any other kids inside as well as the doe! I would suggest a visit to the Vet - if the Vet cannot come out on a farm visit. Myra BambergerBlue Unicorn Farm - LaManchas, Oberhasli, Recorded Grades, & 1 Mini-LaManchaKelseyville, Cawww.blueunicornfarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Thanks for all the help on the birthing goat. My friend did not keep records of when the kid is due. She has no idea how to check the dialation, etc. I sent her to fiascofarm.com where there is good information on birthing problems and emergencies with pictures. She cannot afford a vet bill, so she is open to any help. I'll get back to you all when I know more. Thanks again. Darlene To: RawDairy Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 6:13:09 PMSubject: re: birthing queston It sounds like the kid or kids might be stuck in the birthing canal. Has the owner/caretaker of this goat attempted to feel inside to see what is going on? If a kid is crosswise in the birthing canal - the kid will not come out, will die, and then so will any other kids inside as well as the doe! I would suggest a visit to the Vet - if the Vet cannot come out on a farm visit. Myra BambergerBlue Unicorn Farm - LaManchas, Oberhasli, Recorded Grades, & 1 Mini-LaManchaKelseyville, Cawww.blueunicornfarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 another person she could call is her goat mentor if she has one near her..I had to do that early this year after I tried calling my vet & she was out of town, so I called my mentor..She got the oversized buck kid out of the yearling doe.. After that,I'm waiting until all my Nigerian Dwarf doelings are 2 years old before I breed them..I Raise Nigerian Dwarf,Nubians,and Hybrid goats.. after watching what my mentor did,I got an idea of what to do now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Amen. All of us that have animals have assumed, when we bought or accepted responsibility for them, to care for them as we would our family. These are all God's creatures and they deserve the best care available. If you can't make that commitment then do the animal a favor and don't buy it in the first place or give it to someone who is a responsible animal owner.Jan Haybert I hate to hear this response from any pet owner: “I can’t afford a vet billâ€. People, if you want to own animals, consider the consequences of them getting ill. If you are not able to go in and get the kids out then you need a vet. Or the goat will probably die. Then, you are faced with buying a new doe. Same cost as the vet….right? I can’t tell you how many people have brought their pets in to our clinic with simple, treatable problems. Then we are told to euthanize because they didn’t want to pay for overnight care of their sweet 1 year old blocked tomcat (had it been neutered, this probably wouldn’t have happened, but they didn’t want to pay for that either!) When we sell these beautiful animals, we also need to educate the newbies on care, where to go in an emergency, and expected cost. Otherwise, we are just as bad as any puppy mill that just wants to make a buck. Be responsible. My soapbox is tired now… Becky Leach Rocky Ridge Ranch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Amen. All of us that have animals have assumed, when we bought or accepted responsibility for them, to care for them as we would our family. These are all God's creatures and they deserve the best care available. If you can't make that commitment then do the animal a favor and don't buy it in the first place or give it to someone who is a responsible animal owner.Jan Haybert I hate to hear this response from any pet owner: “I can’t afford a vet billâ€. People, if you want to own animals, consider the consequences of them getting ill. If you are not able to go in and get the kids out then you need a vet. Or the goat will probably die. Then, you are faced with buying a new doe. Same cost as the vet….right? I can’t tell you how many people have brought their pets in to our clinic with simple, treatable problems. Then we are told to euthanize because they didn’t want to pay for overnight care of their sweet 1 year old blocked tomcat (had it been neutered, this probably wouldn’t have happened, but they didn’t want to pay for that either!) When we sell these beautiful animals, we also need to educate the newbies on care, where to go in an emergency, and expected cost. Otherwise, we are just as bad as any puppy mill that just wants to make a buck. Be responsible. My soapbox is tired now… Becky Leach Rocky Ridge Ranch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I am sure there are many people out there who use a lame excuse like "I can't afford a vet bill." But there are most certainly some honest people out there who can say it and really mean it. My friend is a homeschooling Mom with 10 children. The goat was given to them to help feed their large family with raw milk and to help them get started with a dairy farm. It seems as though the goat may have delivered the kid somewhere in the tall grassed pasture, and the coyoties may have gotten it. The milk is now dried up and the bleeding has stopped. She was so very dissappointed...in fact to tears. Her family was looking forward to the milk and baby. But they are ready to try again and this time keep up with the due date and keep their eyes on her. Thanks to everyone for coming to the rescue! Darlene To: RawDairy Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 1:33:00 PMSubject: Re: birthing queston I hate to hear this response from any pet owner: “I can’t afford a vet billâ€. People, if you want to own animals, consider the consequences of them getting ill. If you are not able to go in and get the kids out then you need a vet. Or the goat will probably die. Then, you are faced with buying a new doe. Same cost as the vet….right? I can’t tell you how many people have brought their pets in to our clinic with simple, treatable problems. Then we are told to euthanize because they didn’t want to pay for overnight care of their sweet 1 year old blocked tomcat (had it been neutered, this probably wouldn’t have happened, but they didn’t want to pay for that either!) When we sell these beautiful animals, we also need to educate the newbies on care, where to go in an emergency, and expected cost. Otherwise, we are just as bad as any puppy mill that just wants to make a buck. Be responsible. My soapbox is tired now… Becky Leach Rocky Ridge Ranch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks, . She did call her mentor, but the mentor never tried to come out to help her. She just kept telling her that the kid was coming soon. She finally called her uncle who raises goats and he told her that he thinks she has already had the kid and some wild animal must have gotten it. The bleeding has stopped, and the milk has already dried up. Darlene To: RawDairy Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 2:08:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: birthing queston another person she could call is her goat mentor if she has one near her..I had to do that early this year after I tried calling my vet & she was out of town, so I called my mentor..She got the oversized buck kid out of the yearling doe.. After that,I'm waiting until all my Nigerian Dwarf doelings are 2 years old before I breed them..I Raise Nigerian Dwarf,Nubians,and Hybrid goats.. after watching what my mentor did,I got an idea of what to do now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks, . She did call her mentor, but the mentor never tried to come out to help her. She just kept telling her that the kid was coming soon. She finally called her uncle who raises goats and he told her that he thinks she has already had the kid and some wild animal must have gotten it. The bleeding has stopped, and the milk has already dried up. Darlene To: RawDairy Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 2:08:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: birthing queston another person she could call is her goat mentor if she has one near her..I had to do that early this year after I tried calling my vet & she was out of town, so I called my mentor..She got the oversized buck kid out of the yearling doe.. After that,I'm waiting until all my Nigerian Dwarf doelings are 2 years old before I breed them..I Raise Nigerian Dwarf,Nubians,and Hybrid goats.. after watching what my mentor did,I got an idea of what to do now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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