Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hi, We haven't had a problem with this in our herd, but as a homeopathic vet, I would say you can safely try some Euphrasia in their water to help with symptoms. I would use a 30c potency and put it in daily for 3 days. Alternately, you could try using topical euphrasia (eyebright) in a spray or squeeze bottle. It needs to be labeled " For use in the eye " and NOT be tincture (alcohol based). This could also be an expensive way to do it. I really like the port wine idea and the nutritional info. Both of these people are coming from extensive experience. > > I would like to ask the group for help in solving pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hi, We haven't had a problem with this in our herd, but as a homeopathic vet, I would say you can safely try some Euphrasia in their water to help with symptoms. I would use a 30c potency and put it in daily for 3 days. Alternately, you could try using topical euphrasia (eyebright) in a spray or squeeze bottle. It needs to be labeled " For use in the eye " and NOT be tincture (alcohol based). This could also be an expensive way to do it. I really like the port wine idea and the nutritional info. Both of these people are coming from extensive experience. > > I would like to ask the group for help in solving pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk cows getting any > mineral that the others are not? > > Cheyenne No, other than the alfalfa pellets, their pasture/minerals are exactly the same. The only other difference is that the dairy cows have fresh water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a natural pond. We hope to remedy that this summer as well. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk cows getting any > mineral that the others are not? > > Cheyenne No, other than the alfalfa pellets, their pasture/minerals are exactly the same. The only other difference is that the dairy cows have fresh water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a natural pond. We hope to remedy that this summer as well. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 If your cows are drinking out of a pond you might want to check for liver flukes too. I have used a 200ppm of bleach on a wash cloth to get rid of many eye ailments. I would think it would work on pinkeye too although it may not be practical. Chris > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk cows getting any> mineral that the others are not? > > CheyenneNo, other than the alfalfa pellets, their pasture/minerals are exactly the same. The only other difference is that the dairy cows have fresh water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a natural pond. We hope to remedy that this summer as well. Kathy ____________________________________________________________ Orlando Vacations - Click Here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 If your cows are drinking out of a pond you might want to check for liver flukes too. I have used a 200ppm of bleach on a wash cloth to get rid of many eye ailments. I would think it would work on pinkeye too although it may not be practical. Chris > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk cows getting any> mineral that the others are not? > > CheyenneNo, other than the alfalfa pellets, their pasture/minerals are exactly the same. The only other difference is that the dairy cows have fresh water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a natural pond. We hope to remedy that this summer as well. Kathy ____________________________________________________________ Orlando Vacations - Click Here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 you need good fly control. They make eye patches that you glue on the infected eye. When it falls off after a few weeks the eye is healed. Idea is to keep flys and dust out of the eye. Albert --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > I would like to ask the group for help in solving > pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since > moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected > in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does > seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes > totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs > unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for > our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose > health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger > but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the > dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture > available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The > only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets > alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're > planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so > we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in > the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 you need good fly control. They make eye patches that you glue on the infected eye. When it falls off after a few weeks the eye is healed. Idea is to keep flys and dust out of the eye. Albert --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > I would like to ask the group for help in solving > pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since > moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected > in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does > seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes > totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs > unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for > our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose > health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger > but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the > dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture > available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The > only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets > alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're > planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so > we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in > the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the eye shut for a while for it to heal. Albert --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > I would like to ask the group for help in solving > pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since > moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected > in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does > seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes > totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs > unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for > our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose > health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger > but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the > dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture > available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The > only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets > alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're > planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so > we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in > the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the eye shut for a while for it to heal. Albert --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > I would like to ask the group for help in solving > pinkeye. We had a > little trouble with it in Washington but since > moving to Missouri, we > are just floored with the numbers of eyes affected > in our herd. We > have been using cod liver oil in the eye which does > seem to help. > Some recover fully but we still have had some eyes > totally lost, and > others left clouded. > > We're not certified organic but don't do drugs > unless absolutely > necessary. We sell raw milk and grass-fed beef for > our livelihood, so > it has to be clean. We don't want our cows to lose > health so, if > necessary, we'd be open to using something stronger > but as a last > resort. > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the > dry cows and meat > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture > available > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The > only difference > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets > alfalfa pellets in > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're > planning on > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so > we can start > using the vinegar with them as well. > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in > the meantime. > Thanks! > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 this is a link to them. http://www.pinkeye.com treating the eye with a holistic treatment then apply the patch. Again good fly control will help keep it from spreading to other members of the herd. --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > > > > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk > cows getting any > > mineral that the others are not? > > > > Cheyenne > > No, other than the alfalfa pellets, their > pasture/minerals are exactly > the same. The only other difference is that the > dairy cows have fresh > water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a > natural pond. We hope > to remedy that this summer as well. > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 this is a link to them. http://www.pinkeye.com treating the eye with a holistic treatment then apply the patch. Again good fly control will help keep it from spreading to other members of the herd. --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > > > > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk > cows getting any > > mineral that the others are not? > > > > Cheyenne > > No, other than the alfalfa pellets, their > pasture/minerals are exactly > the same. The only other difference is that the > dairy cows have fresh > water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a > natural pond. We hope > to remedy that this summer as well. > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 this is a link to them. http://www.pinkeye.com treating the eye with a holistic treatment then apply the patch. Again good fly control will help keep it from spreading to other members of the herd. --- Kathy Vimont wrote: > > > > > Sounds like the vinegar is helping. Are the milk > cows getting any > > mineral that the others are not? > > > > Cheyenne > > No, other than the alfalfa pellets, their > pasture/minerals are exactly > the same. The only other difference is that the > dairy cows have fresh > water to drink while the beef cows drink out of a > natural pond. We hope > to remedy that this summer as well. > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its greatest capability, so correcting any deficiencies may help control or minimize infection rate by keeping the animals strong enough to fight off or resist the infection on their own. Fly control is absolutely important as well. Thanks for the info about the eye patches, > > Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not > all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral > deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by > flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine > for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is > cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust > out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the > eye shut for a while for it to heal. > > Albert > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its greatest capability, so correcting any deficiencies may help control or minimize infection rate by keeping the animals strong enough to fight off or resist the infection on their own. Fly control is absolutely important as well. Thanks for the info about the eye patches, > > Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not > all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral > deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by > flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine > for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is > cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust > out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the > eye shut for a while for it to heal. > > Albert > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its greatest capability, so correcting any deficiencies may help control or minimize infection rate by keeping the animals strong enough to fight off or resist the infection on their own. Fly control is absolutely important as well. Thanks for the info about the eye patches, > > Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not > all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral > deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by > flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine > for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is > cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust > out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the > eye shut for a while for it to heal. > > Albert > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I actually have beef cattle and am not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I seem to have good luck supplementing with kelp meal. I bet I’ve only had a couple cases of pinkeye over the years while supplementing free choice with kelp meal. I know Salatin in one of his books attributed the iodine in kelp meal with fighting pink eye and I remember him mentioning his cattle rubbing noses with neighbors pink eye infected cattle with no adverse affects. Maybe it is the strong immune system the kelp helps develop. Is kelp meal possible to provide to milk cows or will it flavor the milk? Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its greatest capability… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 this sounds like the remedy for a baby with pinkeye/eye gunk - use drops of breastmilk. Breastmilk can also be used in the ears for ear infections. > > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the dry cows and meat > > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture available > > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The only difference > > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets alfalfa pellets in > > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're planning on > > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so we can start > > using the vinegar with them as well. > > > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in the meantime. > > Thanks! > > > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 this sounds like the remedy for a baby with pinkeye/eye gunk - use drops of breastmilk. Breastmilk can also be used in the ears for ear infections. > > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the dry cows and meat > > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture available > > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The only difference > > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets alfalfa pellets in > > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're planning on > > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so we can start > > using the vinegar with them as well. > > > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in the meantime. > > Thanks! > > > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 this sounds like the remedy for a baby with pinkeye/eye gunk - use drops of breastmilk. Breastmilk can also be used in the ears for ear infections. > > > Our dairy cows aren't bothered by pinkeye but the dry cows and meat > > animals are. They all have the same types of pasture available > > (fescue,clover) and it's getting tall right now. The only difference > > between the 2 groups is that the dairy cows gets alfalfa pellets in > > the parlor with apple cider vinegar poured on. We're planning on > > getting a better watering system for the dry cows so we can start > > using the vinegar with them as well. > > > > I would appreciate any help you all have to give in the meantime. > > Thanks! > > > > Kathy in SW Missouri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Mineral deficiency is the cause of all maladies. Yes, it is some bacteria, but it can only affect a deficient animal. If not then why doesn't every animal in the herd get it considering how contagious it is and how flies get around? A healthy animal will not get pinkeye no matter how many flies are around or other animals with pinkeye. Cheyenne > > Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not > all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral > deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by > flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine > for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is > cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust > out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the > eye shut for a while for it to heal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Mineral deficiency is the cause of all maladies. Yes, it is some bacteria, but it can only affect a deficient animal. If not then why doesn't every animal in the herd get it considering how contagious it is and how flies get around? A healthy animal will not get pinkeye no matter how many flies are around or other animals with pinkeye. Cheyenne > > Pinkeye is caused by a bacteria (Moraxella bovis) not > all these other, tall grass, pond water or mineral > deficiency. It is a Bacteria that is transmitted by > flies or in dust that is kicked up. There is a vaccine > for it also that helps. The patch works well and it is > cheap and no antibiotics. it keeps the flies and dust > out, sunlight hurts them also. We have even sewn the > eye shut for a while for it to heal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Kelp will not flavor the milk. It is by far the best mineral supplement as it is plant based and full of micro nutrients. Cheyenne > > I actually have beef cattle and am not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I > seem to have good luck supplementing with kelp meal. > > I bet I've only had a couple cases of pinkeye over the years while > supplementing free choice with kelp meal. > > I know Salatin in one of his books attributed the iodine in kelp meal > with fighting pink eye and I remember him mentioning his cattle rubbing > noses with neighbors pink eye infected cattle with no adverse affects. > Maybe it is the strong immune system the kelp helps develop. Is kelp meal > possible to provide to milk cows or will it flavor the milk? > > > > > > > > Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, > I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because > maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its > greatest capability. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Kelp will not flavor the milk. It is by far the best mineral supplement as it is plant based and full of micro nutrients. Cheyenne > > I actually have beef cattle and am not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I > seem to have good luck supplementing with kelp meal. > > I bet I've only had a couple cases of pinkeye over the years while > supplementing free choice with kelp meal. > > I know Salatin in one of his books attributed the iodine in kelp meal > with fighting pink eye and I remember him mentioning his cattle rubbing > noses with neighbors pink eye infected cattle with no adverse affects. > Maybe it is the strong immune system the kelp helps develop. Is kelp meal > possible to provide to milk cows or will it flavor the milk? > > > > > > > > Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, > I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because > maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its > greatest capability. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Kelp will not flavor the milk. It is by far the best mineral supplement as it is plant based and full of micro nutrients. Cheyenne > > I actually have beef cattle and am not sure if anyone mentioned it, but I > seem to have good luck supplementing with kelp meal. > > I bet I've only had a couple cases of pinkeye over the years while > supplementing free choice with kelp meal. > > I know Salatin in one of his books attributed the iodine in kelp meal > with fighting pink eye and I remember him mentioning his cattle rubbing > noses with neighbors pink eye infected cattle with no adverse affects. > Maybe it is the strong immune system the kelp helps develop. Is kelp meal > possible to provide to milk cows or will it flavor the milk? > > > > > > > > Hi Albert, you are completely correct on the cause of pinkeye, however, > I do believe that mineral or vitamin deficiency can play a part because > maximizing nutrition helps the immune system to function at its > greatest capability. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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