Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 I just enrolled and am perusing the site. Is it just me, or are the product descriptions very lite? Also, these prices seem insanely expensive! $138 for one 8 oz bottle of coral calcium????? I was buying the same stuff, from the same location (okinawa), for about $22 a bottle! CONSUMER GENERAL'S WARNING: To Neutralize the Dangerous Effects of Any Radical Movement, the Marketplace Will Employ Repressive Tolerance, Oppressive Exclusion or Suppressive Ridicule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 -----Original Message----- I just enrolled and am perusing the site. Is it just me, or are the product descriptions very lite? Also, these prices seem insanely expensive! $138 for one 8 oz bottle of coral calcium????? I was buying the same stuff, from the same location (okinawa), for about $22 a bottle! ---------------------------------- On the subject of Coral calcium, beware!. I know a Dr. in New Jersey who has purchased and tested every coral on the market he could find, and had some sent to him to be tested and he was shocked to find that the only pure one that was what it said it was, was Dr. Barefoots brand. He really was shocked. Some of the less expensive ones were nothing more than beach sand and some had as little as ten percent coral. Real coral is not cheap. And 8 oz of pure coral is alot of coral and so, tho I haven't figured it out in milligrams, $138 might actually be somewhat fair. The stuff I sell, is Dr. B's and there are only 60 caps and recommended retail is $35. (my price is $22) If I opened all those caps up and dumped the contents, it would be 15 teaspoons. 1/4 tsp equals one cap. Okay so, 1/4 cup is 16 tsp. and that is also 2 oz. So four of those would approximately make up one 8 oz bottle of bulk. Well, minus four teaspoons, or 16 caps. Okay so, four time the recommended retail of $35 would be $140. At my price the same amount would be about $88. Okay, lol, so I guess it isn't a great deal, but it isn't a major rip off either. BUT, I would not buy any coral product besides Dr. B's brand, without asking for proof that it is pure. And independant lab test for instance. I just know too much about the behind the scenes out and out scamming that is going on in this industry to trust anyone. I am really, really tired right now and feeling semi concious, so if someone catches a math error here, please correct me. Signing off for a nap, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 Frischling wrote: > > I just enrolled and am perusing the site. Is it just me, or are the product > descriptions very lite? Also, these prices seem insanely expensive! > > $138 for one 8 oz bottle of coral calcium????? > I was buying the same stuff, from the same location (okinawa), for about $22 > a bottle! Hi , YL pricey? I'm grousing about it continually! However, I really do believe that every product is exceptional, both in purity and potency. If I could afford it, I'd be using every single thing they produce. You absolutely cannot find oils that are better anywhere! The product descriptions are deliberately low key, so as not to arouse our friendly Washington alphabet agency. Most YL distributors buy The Essential Oil Reference Manual sooner or later. It used to be called, in the first edition, the " PDR " . As you can imagine, that was in direct conflict with the pharmaceutical version. But it fills the same purpose for the oils and all other YL products----complete ingredient descriptions, mode of action, suggested uses and doses. It's an aromatherapy " bible " . There are also less expensive, less thorough versions, available directly from the company. Many books and booklets, in fact. As to the Coral Calcium, I had a fit when I saw the price and just said " no way " ! However, I read Donna's extremely helpful breakdown, which made me feel a lot better about YL's version. From what I read from YL, it sounds as though Young is using the exact same material/source as Barefoot's. I haven't looked at the description in awhile, but I'm pretty sure the YL version also contains some essential oils to augment the results. However, I think I'll still get some from Donna as I can spend a lot less at one time for a smaller amount. If it turns out to be something exceptionally good for me, then I might order YL's, knowing that I would use the whole amount I noticed someone else mentioning the Dentarome Plus toothpaste. I will second it's praises; it's antibacterial properties are fantastic. For new users, though, I'd suggest starting out with the regular Dentarome (without the 'plus') as it takes some people awhile to get used to these powerful oils. I have to add a very odd use for the plain Dentarome. People (including your's truly) are using a tiny amount as a deodorant! No kidding---and it's the finest I've ever used in my life. Once I got used to it---the oils in it start detoxifying the lymphatics under the arm-----I have never been bothered with odor since---EVER. I used to use anti-perspirants and frequently had odor breakthrough when being active or warm, including wrecking some good clothes. I will never use anything else again. And, yes, I still grin every time I think about using a toothpaste for this! There are several hundred, at least, YL distributors also praising this use. Oh, about 2 years ago I was dxed with lymphadenitis when I got nasty looking red bumps in my armpits. I did not get over it till I started using the Dentarome under my arms. I have no more lymph problems---at least under the arms. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 Frischling wrote: > > I just enrolled and am perusing the site. Is it just me, or are the product > descriptions very lite? Also, these prices seem insanely expensive! > > $138 for one 8 oz bottle of coral calcium????? > I was buying the same stuff, from the same location (okinawa), for about $22 > a bottle! Hi , YL pricey? I'm grousing about it continually! However, I really do believe that every product is exceptional, both in purity and potency. If I could afford it, I'd be using every single thing they produce. You absolutely cannot find oils that are better anywhere! The product descriptions are deliberately low key, so as not to arouse our friendly Washington alphabet agency. Most YL distributors buy The Essential Oil Reference Manual sooner or later. It used to be called, in the first edition, the " PDR " . As you can imagine, that was in direct conflict with the pharmaceutical version. But it fills the same purpose for the oils and all other YL products----complete ingredient descriptions, mode of action, suggested uses and doses. It's an aromatherapy " bible " . There are also less expensive, less thorough versions, available directly from the company. Many books and booklets, in fact. As to the Coral Calcium, I had a fit when I saw the price and just said " no way " ! However, I read Donna's extremely helpful breakdown, which made me feel a lot better about YL's version. From what I read from YL, it sounds as though Young is using the exact same material/source as Barefoot's. I haven't looked at the description in awhile, but I'm pretty sure the YL version also contains some essential oils to augment the results. However, I think I'll still get some from Donna as I can spend a lot less at one time for a smaller amount. If it turns out to be something exceptionally good for me, then I might order YL's, knowing that I would use the whole amount I noticed someone else mentioning the Dentarome Plus toothpaste. I will second it's praises; it's antibacterial properties are fantastic. For new users, though, I'd suggest starting out with the regular Dentarome (without the 'plus') as it takes some people awhile to get used to these powerful oils. I have to add a very odd use for the plain Dentarome. People (including your's truly) are using a tiny amount as a deodorant! No kidding---and it's the finest I've ever used in my life. Once I got used to it---the oils in it start detoxifying the lymphatics under the arm-----I have never been bothered with odor since---EVER. I used to use anti-perspirants and frequently had odor breakthrough when being active or warm, including wrecking some good clothes. I will never use anything else again. And, yes, I still grin every time I think about using a toothpaste for this! There are several hundred, at least, YL distributors also praising this use. Oh, about 2 years ago I was dxed with lymphadenitis when I got nasty looking red bumps in my armpits. I did not get over it till I started using the Dentarome under my arms. I have no more lymph problems---at least under the arms. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 Frischling wrote: > > I just enrolled and am perusing the site. Is it just me, or are the product > descriptions very lite? Also, these prices seem insanely expensive! > > $138 for one 8 oz bottle of coral calcium????? > I was buying the same stuff, from the same location (okinawa), for about $22 > a bottle! Hi , YL pricey? I'm grousing about it continually! However, I really do believe that every product is exceptional, both in purity and potency. If I could afford it, I'd be using every single thing they produce. You absolutely cannot find oils that are better anywhere! The product descriptions are deliberately low key, so as not to arouse our friendly Washington alphabet agency. Most YL distributors buy The Essential Oil Reference Manual sooner or later. It used to be called, in the first edition, the " PDR " . As you can imagine, that was in direct conflict with the pharmaceutical version. But it fills the same purpose for the oils and all other YL products----complete ingredient descriptions, mode of action, suggested uses and doses. It's an aromatherapy " bible " . There are also less expensive, less thorough versions, available directly from the company. Many books and booklets, in fact. As to the Coral Calcium, I had a fit when I saw the price and just said " no way " ! However, I read Donna's extremely helpful breakdown, which made me feel a lot better about YL's version. From what I read from YL, it sounds as though Young is using the exact same material/source as Barefoot's. I haven't looked at the description in awhile, but I'm pretty sure the YL version also contains some essential oils to augment the results. However, I think I'll still get some from Donna as I can spend a lot less at one time for a smaller amount. If it turns out to be something exceptionally good for me, then I might order YL's, knowing that I would use the whole amount I noticed someone else mentioning the Dentarome Plus toothpaste. I will second it's praises; it's antibacterial properties are fantastic. For new users, though, I'd suggest starting out with the regular Dentarome (without the 'plus') as it takes some people awhile to get used to these powerful oils. I have to add a very odd use for the plain Dentarome. People (including your's truly) are using a tiny amount as a deodorant! No kidding---and it's the finest I've ever used in my life. Once I got used to it---the oils in it start detoxifying the lymphatics under the arm-----I have never been bothered with odor since---EVER. I used to use anti-perspirants and frequently had odor breakthrough when being active or warm, including wrecking some good clothes. I will never use anything else again. And, yes, I still grin every time I think about using a toothpaste for this! There are several hundred, at least, YL distributors also praising this use. Oh, about 2 years ago I was dxed with lymphadenitis when I got nasty looking red bumps in my armpits. I did not get over it till I started using the Dentarome under my arms. I have no more lymph problems---at least under the arms. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 I take exception to this. There certainly ARE essential oils that are better than those sold by young living. Not better hyped, perhaps, but a far better value and equal to better quality. A little education outside of Young Living goes a looonng ways. It's nice you like and endorse their products, but ... those in Aromatherapy outside Young Living have considerable differences of opinion regarding YL's recommended uses. http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ YL rarely publishes verifiable citations of actual research; they allude to studies having been done. Those who cite real research talk a lot about sensitization above the 2% dilution standard and the fact that most EO's have NOT been tested for most of what they're used for.. http://www.aromamedical.demon.co.uk/ http://www.essentialoils.org/ When ascribing the characteristics of an herb to it's essential oil, one makes some mighty big leaps. Considerable trauma occurs to the plant material in distillation or CO2 extraction, enough to make tests appropriate to verify similar action. We all want to believe what we know, at least until we learn differently, sigh. SaraLou Re: young living oils question snippppped You absolutely cannot find oils that are better anywhere! The product descriptions are deliberately low key, so as not to arouse our friendly Washington alphabet agency. Most YL distributors buy The Essential Oil Reference Manual sooner or later. It used to be called, in the first edition, the " PDR " . As you can imagine, that was in direct conflict with the pharmaceutical version. But it fills the same purpose for the oils and all other YL products----complete ingredient descriptions, mode of action, suggested uses and doses. It's an aromatherapy " bible " . There are also less expensive, less thorough versions, available directly from the company. Many books and booklets, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 I take exception to this. There certainly ARE essential oils that are better than those sold by young living. Not better hyped, perhaps, but a far better value and equal to better quality. A little education outside of Young Living goes a looonng ways. It's nice you like and endorse their products, but ... those in Aromatherapy outside Young Living have considerable differences of opinion regarding YL's recommended uses. http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ YL rarely publishes verifiable citations of actual research; they allude to studies having been done. Those who cite real research talk a lot about sensitization above the 2% dilution standard and the fact that most EO's have NOT been tested for most of what they're used for.. http://www.aromamedical.demon.co.uk/ http://www.essentialoils.org/ When ascribing the characteristics of an herb to it's essential oil, one makes some mighty big leaps. Considerable trauma occurs to the plant material in distillation or CO2 extraction, enough to make tests appropriate to verify similar action. We all want to believe what we know, at least until we learn differently, sigh. SaraLou Re: young living oils question snippppped You absolutely cannot find oils that are better anywhere! The product descriptions are deliberately low key, so as not to arouse our friendly Washington alphabet agency. Most YL distributors buy The Essential Oil Reference Manual sooner or later. It used to be called, in the first edition, the " PDR " . As you can imagine, that was in direct conflict with the pharmaceutical version. But it fills the same purpose for the oils and all other YL products----complete ingredient descriptions, mode of action, suggested uses and doses. It's an aromatherapy " bible " . There are also less expensive, less thorough versions, available directly from the company. Many books and booklets, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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