Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi Dan! This must be in different feds. It's pretty well accepted on most sites and literature that Kaz was the man. But this could very well be exclusively referring to the IPF. The curls are official lifts. They certainly weren't strict, actually a lot of sites that list the feat say " cheat curl " . My poster lists this being acheived in 1985. Dmitry Voronov Toronto, Ontario icp328 wrote: > --- > Hi Dmitry! > > A few corrections are in order. Pat Casey was the first man to bench > press over 600# in an official contest in 1966. Jim bench > pressed 675# with a near miss at 700# at the 1972 world powerlifting > championships held in York, PA. I would question the 200 kg. curl and > the 315# curl for 15 reps. I have witnessed Bill Kazmire do five > cheat curls with 300# over ten years ago. The current generally > accepted mark for strict curl( back to the wall ) is 260# by the late > Canadian world weightlifting champ,Doug Hepburn, done in the '50's. > Hepburn is often considered the first man to bench press 500# although > multiple Mr. Universe Reg Park may have been. > > Best wishes! > > Dan Wathen, Youngstown(OH) State University > > > > > > > > In Supertraining@y..., " Dmitry Voronov " <dvoronov@u...> wrote: > > Where did you get that from? It's widely documented that Kaz was the > first > > to ever clean and press the Inch dumbell. He didn't do many olympic > lifts > > but he dominated powerlifting and world's strongest man. He got > kicked out > > of both because of it too (IPF said he was too " professional " and > WSM just > > chose not to invite him anymore). I personally think he is the best > all > > rounded athlete ever. He was the first to bench 600 and the first to > bench > > over 300 kilos (661), and the first to do 600 more than once (5 > reps). Even > > though he had no fancy suits or bench shirts, he still holds the IPF > SHW > > total record. He still holds the world record overhead log press in > WSM. > > (375 lbs) Some of the more freakier things he did were a world > record > > barbell curl of 440 lbs and 315 for 15, a seated barbell press of > 448x3 and > > a dumbell side raise and hold for 6 reps with 89 in one hand and 101 > in the > > other. > > > > Dmitry Voronov > > Toronto, Ontario > > Mark Henry > > > > > > I was doing some research on Mark Henry and I think he is one of > the most > > all-round strength guys > > out there. Here are his Olympic lifts I think he holds the > American > > records - I am not sure though: > > > > Snatch...396 > > Clean and Jerk...484 > > > > Powerlifting... > > > > Squat...951 > > Bench...528 > > Deadlift...903 > > > > He is also one of 5 people to lift the Apollon wheels. Most > recently he > > cleaned and pressed (one handed) > > the Inch dumbbell,the only man in history to do so. It is a DB > that weighs > > 172 pounds with the handle > > being 2.48 " . I have included some pics of him doing it. See: > > > > http://community-2.webtv.net/BrazilianArts/juggernaut/ > > > > Joe Painter > > San Diego, Ca > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2002 Report Share Posted July 25, 2002 Hi Dan! This must be in different feds. It's pretty well accepted on most sites and literature that Kaz was the man. But this could very well be exclusively referring to the IPF. The curls are official lifts. They certainly weren't strict, actually a lot of sites that list the feat say " cheat curl " . My poster lists this being acheived in 1985. Dmitry Voronov Toronto, Ontario icp328 wrote: > --- > Hi Dmitry! > > A few corrections are in order. Pat Casey was the first man to bench > press over 600# in an official contest in 1966. Jim bench > pressed 675# with a near miss at 700# at the 1972 world powerlifting > championships held in York, PA. I would question the 200 kg. curl and > the 315# curl for 15 reps. I have witnessed Bill Kazmire do five > cheat curls with 300# over ten years ago. The current generally > accepted mark for strict curl( back to the wall ) is 260# by the late > Canadian world weightlifting champ,Doug Hepburn, done in the '50's. > Hepburn is often considered the first man to bench press 500# although > multiple Mr. Universe Reg Park may have been. > > Best wishes! > > Dan Wathen, Youngstown(OH) State University > > > > > > > > In Supertraining@y..., " Dmitry Voronov " <dvoronov@u...> wrote: > > Where did you get that from? It's widely documented that Kaz was the > first > > to ever clean and press the Inch dumbell. He didn't do many olympic > lifts > > but he dominated powerlifting and world's strongest man. He got > kicked out > > of both because of it too (IPF said he was too " professional " and > WSM just > > chose not to invite him anymore). I personally think he is the best > all > > rounded athlete ever. He was the first to bench 600 and the first to > bench > > over 300 kilos (661), and the first to do 600 more than once (5 > reps). Even > > though he had no fancy suits or bench shirts, he still holds the IPF > SHW > > total record. He still holds the world record overhead log press in > WSM. > > (375 lbs) Some of the more freakier things he did were a world > record > > barbell curl of 440 lbs and 315 for 15, a seated barbell press of > 448x3 and > > a dumbell side raise and hold for 6 reps with 89 in one hand and 101 > in the > > other. > > > > Dmitry Voronov > > Toronto, Ontario > > Mark Henry > > > > > > I was doing some research on Mark Henry and I think he is one of > the most > > all-round strength guys > > out there. Here are his Olympic lifts I think he holds the > American > > records - I am not sure though: > > > > Snatch...396 > > Clean and Jerk...484 > > > > Powerlifting... > > > > Squat...951 > > Bench...528 > > Deadlift...903 > > > > He is also one of 5 people to lift the Apollon wheels. Most > recently he > > cleaned and pressed (one handed) > > the Inch dumbbell,the only man in history to do so. It is a DB > that weighs > > 172 pounds with the handle > > being 2.48 " . I have included some pics of him doing it. See: > > > > http://community-2.webtv.net/BrazilianArts/juggernaut/ > > > > Joe Painter > > San Diego, Ca > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 In a message dated 7/25/2002 11:36:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dvoronov@... writes: > " It's widely documented that Kaz was the first > to ever clean and press the Inch dumbell. " It was my understanding that Kaz kicked up the dumbell with his thigh before pressing it overhead while Mark Henry cleaned it from the ground to the shoulders with no assistance. barney shannon Kenilworth, New Jersey USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 --- Hi Bill! While Pat Casey did a lot of upper body work he was also the first man to officially squat over 800# and total over 2000# back in the late '60's. I believe his best deadlift was around 680#. This was pre-IPF days when the AAU ran powerlifting. Jon Cole was an exceptional athlete an lifter. He was national champ in the discus and powerlifting. He also had best olympic lifts of 430# press, 340# snatch, and 430# C & J. His best powerlifts were done at a bodyweight of 283#. He was the first man to squat over 900# (901#), bench press of 580#, and deadlift of 885# all done in the same meet. However the most impressive feat attributed to Cole was a softbll throw of 425' on the fly. Some arm. Best wishes! Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University In Supertraining@y..., Bill Keyes <bilkyes@y...> wrote: > <<Dmitry wrote: > ...It's widely documented that Kaz was the first > to ever clean and press the Inch dumbell. He didn't > do many olympic lifts but he dominated powerlifting > and world's strongest man. He got kicked out of both > because of it too (IPF said he was too " professional " > and WSM just chose not to invite him anymore). I > personally think he is the best all rounded athlete > ever.>> > > I thought Kaz's withdrawal from WSM comps were because > of mounting injuries. Regardless, he was certainly a > throwback to the 'turn of the century' strongman > types, willing to take on any strength challenge. > > Jon Cole of Arizona was a dominant Powerlifter, did > quite well in Olympic lifting, and I believe was a > world-class discus man as well. Would put him right > up there in the 'best ever' group. > > <<He (Kaz) was the first to bench 600 and the first to > bench over 300 kilos (661)...>> > > Dmitry, do you mean in sanctioned IPF competitions? > Pat Casey is generally recognized as the first to go > over 600 (topping out at 628 wearing only a T-shirt). > But admittedly he also specialized in the bench press. > > Bill Keyes > San Ramon, CA > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Another poster stated: " His combined Olympic and Power totals are better than Shane Hammans and he bested currentl WSM champ Svend Karlsson in a strong man contest at the Arnold Classic last February. Bill Kazmeier lifted the Inch... " Henry did win the competition at the Arnold, but two things to remember. First, his opponents had recently finished a competition and had not had time to recover. Secondly, the contest was designed specifically around Mark Henry. Events were chosen that would favor him. It was not " fixed " but the intent of the planners was for Henry to do " well " . Ayars Sandhills Academy of Gymnastics P.O. Box 3789 Pinehurst NC 28374 * Don't forget to sign all letters with full name and city of residence if you wish them to be published! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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