Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 This was sent to me Horacio Felt this was worth the read. Dr. Dave Janda is a highly respected surgeon at St. Joe's Hospital in Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor. He has _dedicated his life to health care reform_ and is often asked to speak to groups of business and political leaders. As the nation watches our politicians and the media spin the presidents proposal for health care reform in many different directions, I would like to pass along a summary from Dr. Janda. He is obviously opposed to the presidents plan, however, he offers some rather clear insight for his position. Subject: Health Care....Not so much....Janda Friends, As I mentioned last Friday, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building. The presentation entitled.....Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention was well received and several very positive developments have occurred. I will outline these at a later date. In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of " reform " as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator . Below is the link to the over 1000 page document..... http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-07140 9.pdf <http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.p\ df> Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan......warning.......they need to put the same warning on The Obama Plan as they do a pack of cigarettes.....Consuming this product WILL be hazardous to your health. The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care NOT PREVENTING health care need. The plan's method is the most inhumane and unethical approach in cutting costs. The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board " will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment. " Translation.....if you are over 65 or have been recently=2 0diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated.....pick out your box. Oh you say...this could never happen......sorry....this is the same model they use in Britain. Not to worry, according to the plan, there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available .....why? The plan also creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research. This illustrious Council's purpose is " to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs. " How special is that !! The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology. This " coordinator " will " monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate. " It goes on to say..... " Doctors and hospitals NOT adhering to guidelines will face penalties. " According to those in Congress penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment. So according to the Obama Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union. On page 425 of The Obama Plan, " The End of Life Counseling Program " is discussed. After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner. This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, " how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care. " It is no wonder The Obama Administration does NOT like my emphasis on Prevention......Prevention is the " enemy " ......people would live longer. Finally, on page 16 of the plan.....it is ILLEGAL for a citizen to have private insurance if they lose their job, change their job, become a senior citizen or graduate from college and land their first job.....yes....illegal. When President Obama was asked about this portion of his plan yesterday his response was.... " I am not familiar with that part of the plan. " Don't believe me......take a look. Obama hosted <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/20/obama-calls-on-bloggers-t_n_241570 ..html <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/20/obama-calls-on-bloggers-t_n_241570.htm\ l>> a conference call with bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible. During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an <http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854> Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: " Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed? " President Obama replied: " You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about. " I rest my case....The Plan authored by Obama / Pelosi / is hazardous to the health of every American. In Washington on Thursday night, I was asked by a Congressman in the question - answer session.... " I am doing a number of network interviews next week on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer. " The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful...... the word is FASCIST. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Horacio, This is more scare propaganda put out by the insurance industry. It is complete nonsense designed to create fear in the public so that reform will fail and the insurance companies can continue to drain us dry. The inflation rate for health care cost is three times the consumer inflation rate. Dr. Flaig ________________________________ To: RifeGroup <Rife >; RL <rife-list > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:15:37 AM Subject: Obama Health proyect This was sent to me Horacio Felt this was worth the read. Dr. Dave Janda is a highly respected surgeon at St. Joe's Hospital in Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor. He has _dedicated his life to health care reform_ and is often asked to speak to groups of business and political leaders. As the nation watches our politicians and the media spin the presidents proposal for health care reform in many different directions, I would like to pass along a summary from Dr. Janda. He is obviously opposed to the presidents plan, however, he offers some rather clear insight for his position. Subject: Health Care....Not so much....Janda Friends, As I mentioned last Friday, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building. The presentation entitled.... .Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention was well received and several very positive developments have occurred. I will outline these at a later date. In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of " reform " as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator . Below is the link to the over 1000 page document.... . http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 07140 9.pdf <http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 071409.pdf> Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan......warning. ......they need to put the same warning on The Obama Plan as they do a pack of cigarettes.. ...Consuming this product WILL be hazardous to your health. The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care NOT PREVENTING health care need. The plan's method is the most inhumane and unethical approach in cutting costs. The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board " will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment. " Translation. ....if you are over 65 or have been recently=2 0diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated..... pick out your box. Oh you say...this could never happen...... sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain. Not to worry, according to the plan, there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available .....why? The plan also creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research. This illustrious Council's purpose is " to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs. " How special is that !! The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology. This " coordinator " will " monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate. " It goes on to say..... " Doctors and hospitals NOT adhering to guidelines will face penalties. " According to those in Congress penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment. So according to the Obama Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union. On page 425 of The Obama Plan, " The End of Life Counseling Program " is discussed. After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner. This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, " how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care. " It is no wonder The Obama Administration does NOT like my emphasis on Prevention.. ....Prevention is the " enemy " ..... .people would live longer. Finally, on page 16 of the plan.....it is ILLEGAL for a citizen to have private insurance if they lose their job, change their job, become a senior citizen or graduate from college and land their first job.....yes. ...illegal. When President Obama was asked about this portion of his plan yesterday his response was.... " I am not familiar with that part of the plan. " Don't believe me......take a look. Obama hosted <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570 ...html <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570. html>> a conference call with bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible. During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an <http://www.ibdedito rials.com/ IBDArticles. aspx?id=33254816 5656854> Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: " Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed? " President Obama replied: " You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about. " I rest my case....The Plan authored by Obama / Pelosi / is hazardous to the health of every American. In Washington on Thursday night, I was asked by a Congressman in the question - answer session.... " I am doing a number of network interviews next week on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer. " The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful.... .. the word is FASCIST. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Horacio, This is more scare propaganda put out by the insurance industry. It is complete nonsense designed to create fear in the public so that reform will fail and the insurance companies can continue to drain us dry. The inflation rate for health care cost is three times the consumer inflation rate. Dr. Flaig ________________________________ To: RifeGroup <Rife >; RL <rife-list > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:15:37 AM Subject: Obama Health proyect This was sent to me Horacio Felt this was worth the read. Dr. Dave Janda is a highly respected surgeon at St. Joe's Hospital in Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor. He has _dedicated his life to health care reform_ and is often asked to speak to groups of business and political leaders. As the nation watches our politicians and the media spin the presidents proposal for health care reform in many different directions, I would like to pass along a summary from Dr. Janda. He is obviously opposed to the presidents plan, however, he offers some rather clear insight for his position. Subject: Health Care....Not so much....Janda Friends, As I mentioned last Friday, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building. The presentation entitled.... .Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention was well received and several very positive developments have occurred. I will outline these at a later date. In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of " reform " as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator . Below is the link to the over 1000 page document.... . http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 07140 9.pdf <http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 071409.pdf> Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan......warning. ......they need to put the same warning on The Obama Plan as they do a pack of cigarettes.. ...Consuming this product WILL be hazardous to your health. The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care NOT PREVENTING health care need. The plan's method is the most inhumane and unethical approach in cutting costs. The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board " will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment. " Translation. ....if you are over 65 or have been recently=2 0diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated..... pick out your box. Oh you say...this could never happen...... sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain. Not to worry, according to the plan, there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available .....why? The plan also creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research. This illustrious Council's purpose is " to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs. " How special is that !! The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology. This " coordinator " will " monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate. " It goes on to say..... " Doctors and hospitals NOT adhering to guidelines will face penalties. " According to those in Congress penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment. So according to the Obama Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union. On page 425 of The Obama Plan, " The End of Life Counseling Program " is discussed. After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner. This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, " how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care. " It is no wonder The Obama Administration does NOT like my emphasis on Prevention.. ....Prevention is the " enemy " ..... .people would live longer. Finally, on page 16 of the plan.....it is ILLEGAL for a citizen to have private insurance if they lose their job, change their job, become a senior citizen or graduate from college and land their first job.....yes. ...illegal. When President Obama was asked about this portion of his plan yesterday his response was.... " I am not familiar with that part of the plan. " Don't believe me......take a look. Obama hosted <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570 ...html <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570. html>> a conference call with bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible. During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an <http://www.ibdedito rials.com/ IBDArticles. aspx?id=33254816 5656854> Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: " Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed? " President Obama replied: " You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about. " I rest my case....The Plan authored by Obama / Pelosi / is hazardous to the health of every American. In Washington on Thursday night, I was asked by a Congressman in the question - answer session.... " I am doing a number of network interviews next week on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer. " The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful.... .. the word is FASCIST. 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Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Horacio, This is more scare propaganda put out by the insurance industry. It is complete nonsense designed to create fear in the public so that reform will fail and the insurance companies can continue to drain us dry. The inflation rate for health care cost is three times the consumer inflation rate. Dr. Flaig ________________________________ To: RifeGroup <Rife >; RL <rife-list > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:15:37 AM Subject: Obama Health proyect This was sent to me Horacio Felt this was worth the read. Dr. Dave Janda is a highly respected surgeon at St. Joe's Hospital in Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor. He has _dedicated his life to health care reform_ and is often asked to speak to groups of business and political leaders. As the nation watches our politicians and the media spin the presidents proposal for health care reform in many different directions, I would like to pass along a summary from Dr. Janda. He is obviously opposed to the presidents plan, however, he offers some rather clear insight for his position. Subject: Health Care....Not so much....Janda Friends, As I mentioned last Friday, I was given the opportunity to be the keynote speaker at a Congressional Dinner at The Capitol Building. The presentation entitled.... .Health Care Reform, The Power & Profit of Prevention was well received and several very positive developments have occurred. I will outline these at a later date. In preparation for the presentation, I read the latest version of " reform " as authored by The Obama Administration and supported by Speaker Pelosi and Senator . Below is the link to the over 1000 page document.... . http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 07140 9.pdf <http://edlabor. house.gov/ documents/ 111/pdf/publicat ions/AAHCA- BillText- 071409.pdf> Let me summarize just a few salient points of the above plan......warning. ......they need to put the same warning on The Obama Plan as they do a pack of cigarettes.. ...Consuming this product WILL be hazardous to your health. The underlying method of cutting costs throughout the plan is based on rationing and denying care NOT PREVENTING health care need. The plan's method is the most inhumane and unethical approach in cutting costs. The rationing of care is implemented through The National Health Care Board, according to the plan. This illustrious Board " will approve or reject treatment for patients based on the cost per treatment divided by the number of years the patient will benefit from the treatment. " Translation. ....if you are over 65 or have been recently=2 0diagnosed as having an advanced form of cardiac disease or aggressive cancer.....dream on if you think you will get treated..... pick out your box. Oh you say...this could never happen...... sorry.... this is the same model they use in Britain. Not to worry, according to the plan, there will be little or no advanced treatments to be available .....why? The plan also creates The Federal Coordinating Council For Comparative Effectiveness Research. This illustrious Council's purpose is " to slow the development of new medications and technologies in order to reduce costs. " How special is that !! The plan also outlines that doctors and hospitals will be overseen and reviewed by The National Coordinator For Health Information and Technology. This " coordinator " will " monitor treatments being delivered to make sure doctors and hospitals are strictly following government guidelines that are deemed appropriate. " It goes on to say..... " Doctors and hospitals NOT adhering to guidelines will face penalties. " According to those in Congress penalties could include large six figure financial fines and possible imprisonment. So according to the Obama Plan....if your doctor saves your life you might have to go to the prison to see your doctor for follow -up appointments. I believe this is the same model Stalin used in the former Soviet Union. On page 425 of The Obama Plan, " The End of Life Counseling Program " is discussed. After each American turns 65 years of age they have to go to a mandated counseling program that is designed to end life sooner. This session is to occur every 5 years unless the person has developed a chronic illness then it must be done every year. The topics in this session will include, " how to decline hydration, nutrition and how to initiate hospice care. " It is no wonder The Obama Administration does NOT like my emphasis on Prevention.. ....Prevention is the " enemy " ..... .people would live longer. Finally, on page 16 of the plan.....it is ILLEGAL for a citizen to have private insurance if they lose their job, change their job, become a senior citizen or graduate from college and land their first job.....yes. ...illegal. When President Obama was asked about this portion of his plan yesterday his response was.... " I am not familiar with that part of the plan. " Don't believe me......take a look. Obama hosted <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570 ...html <http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ 2009/07/20/ obama-calls- on-bloggers- t_n_241570. html>> a conference call with bloggers urging them to pressure Congress to pass his health plan as soon as possible. During the call, a blogger from Maine said he kept running into an <http://www.ibdedito rials.com/ IBDArticles. aspx?id=33254816 5656854> Investors Business Daily article that claimed Section 102 of the House health legislation would outlaw private insurance. He asked: " Is this true? Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed? " President Obama replied: " You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about. " I rest my case....The Plan authored by Obama / Pelosi / is hazardous to the health of every American. In Washington on Thursday night, I was asked by a Congressman in the question - answer session.... " I am doing a number of network interviews next week on the Obama Health Care Plan. If I am asked what is the one word to describe the plan what should I answer. " The answer is simple, honest, direct, analytical, sad but truthful.... .. the word is FASCIST. 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