Re: Trying to formulate facial serum

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In a message dated 2/19/2005 8:53:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nameismj@... writes:

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane<<

Hi Jane,

There are a number of ingredients that could be used, but one that comes to

mind is something we sell at The Herbarie as Extraordinary XG. It's a

derivative of xanthan gum that is very effective at making gels from water

soluble

liquids and it has a nice skin feel too.

Angie

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Angie

The Herbarie

_www.theherbarie.com_ (http://www.theherbarie.com/)

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In a message dated 2/19/2005 8:53:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nameismj@... writes:

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane<<

Hi Jane,

There are a number of ingredients that could be used, but one that comes to

mind is something we sell at The Herbarie as Extraordinary XG. It's a

derivative of xanthan gum that is very effective at making gels from water

soluble

liquids and it has a nice skin feel too.

Angie

*************************

Angie

The Herbarie

_www.theherbarie.com_ (http://www.theherbarie.com/)

**************************

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/19/2005 8:53:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nameismj@... writes:

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane<<

Hi Jane,

There are a number of ingredients that could be used, but one that comes to

mind is something we sell at The Herbarie as Extraordinary XG. It's a

derivative of xanthan gum that is very effective at making gels from water

soluble

liquids and it has a nice skin feel too.

Angie

*************************

Angie

The Herbarie

_www.theherbarie.com_ (http://www.theherbarie.com/)

**************************

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> Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

> like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

>

> Jane

Jane,

Angie sells a product called Extraordinary XG that makes a clear gel.

It's listed here:

http://www.theherbarie.com/emulsfy.html#ExtraordinaryXG

HTH, and if you will look through this entire webpage, you might find

something else that might work for you.

Take care,

Candy

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[Guest guest]

> Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

> like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

>

> Jane

Jane,

Angie sells a product called Extraordinary XG that makes a clear gel.

It's listed here:

http://www.theherbarie.com/emulsfy.html#ExtraordinaryXG

HTH, and if you will look through this entire webpage, you might find

something else that might work for you.

Take care,

Candy

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> Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

> like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

>

> Jane

Jane,

Angie sells a product called Extraordinary XG that makes a clear gel.

It's listed here:

http://www.theherbarie.com/emulsfy.html#ExtraordinaryXG

HTH, and if you will look through this entire webpage, you might find

something else that might work for you.

Take care,

Candy

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Carbomer and fairly inexpensive. Aloe Vera Gel, depending what you add to it

that doesn't thin it too much. The carbomer would come in handy then to

tighten it back up. Flax seed added to boiling H2o and allowed to sit,

becomes a gel-like and marshmallow root.

-- Trying to formulate facial serum

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane

[Guest guest]

Carbomer and fairly inexpensive. Aloe Vera Gel, depending what you add to it

that doesn't thin it too much. The carbomer would come in handy then to

tighten it back up. Flax seed added to boiling H2o and allowed to sit,

becomes a gel-like and marshmallow root.

-- Trying to formulate facial serum

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane

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Chemical name: Carboxyvinyl Polymer; average equivalent weight: ca.76; Bulk

density: 0.20-0.23 g/cm3; pH (0.5% water dispersion): 2.7-3.5

Carbomer is a fine white acrylic powder used in hair gels, and other gels,

lotions, and creams.

It is suitable for formulating sparkling and clear gels as well as

stabilizing emulsions. The typical use level is 0.1-0.5% depending o­n the

type of formulation and final desired viscosity.

It is a cost effective thickener and is pH sensitive. Carbomer must be

thoroughly mixed and hydrated. Increasing the pH to 7.0, gives a gel

structure. Neutralization can be carried out with inorganic bases (such as

NaOH, KOH, NH4OH) or with organic amines (such as TEA, AMP, AMPD). To

neutralize 1 g of Carbomer to pH 7, ca. 0.01 equivalent of base are required

(e.g. 0.4g of NaOH, 0.9g of AMP, 1.5g of TEA). It is advisable to add strong

bases previously diluted into water at a concentration not higher than 10%.

About a dollar an oz. Goes a long way.

-- Trying to formulate facial serum

Can anyone tell me of a product that I can mix with WATER (not oil,

like silica) to produce a gel-like substance?

Jane

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Quince seeds boiled in water make a gel. Irish Moss will also create a gel.

Both of these would require a preservative OR need to be refrigerated.

My favorite is comfrey root, but it is currently under attack by various

government agencies (unlike tylenol, celebrex, and many OTC remedies, no

deaths...), so I won't suggest that one for others.

Tina

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