Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 thanks to everyone for your comments to my previous post .... Do you really reckon that? It is because DS also has that behaviour specially at night can get him out of the freezer .... claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 thanks to everyone for your comments to my previous post .... Do you really reckon that? It is because DS also has that behaviour specially at night can get him out of the freezer .... claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usualKirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usualKirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usualKirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usualKirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usualKirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hope you are having a lovely time there.. nice part of the world.. Tracey I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hope you are having a lovely time there.. nice part of the world.. Tracey I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 We had this for about a year! Does Sam drink enough water?  Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual Kirsty X Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 We had this for about a year! Does Sam drink enough water?  Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual Kirsty X Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 PICA is often high lead or low zinc.Ken I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... Mandi from Tampa over and melt Hi Kirsty Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Could be a sensory thing and a need for oral motor stimulation - lots of crunchy food and mouth work eg blowing bubbles, chewy tubes etc. We had this but as others have said could it be a need for eg zc. If its thirst could need more EFAs?C To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Could be a sensory thing and a need for oral motor stimulation - lots of crunchy food and mouth work eg blowing bubbles, chewy tubes etc. We had this but as others have said could it be a need for eg zc. If its thirst could need more EFAs?C To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Could be a sensory thing and a need for oral motor stimulation - lots of crunchy food and mouth work eg blowing bubbles, chewy tubes etc. We had this but as others have said could it be a need for eg zc. If its thirst could need more EFAs?C To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 Subject: Ice cubes obsession Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual KirstyXSent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks for that M. Most helpful. I'll make sure I'll send you the same useful message when I'm there for three weeks at Xmas ;-) kirsty x > > I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... > > Mandi from Tampa over and melt > > In a message dated 11/11/2010 19:06:11 GMT Standard Time, > michelle0471@... writes: > > > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think > pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > ____________________________________ > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like > usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks for that M. Most helpful. I'll make sure I'll send you the same useful message when I'm there for three weeks at Xmas ;-) kirsty x > > I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... > > Mandi from Tampa over and melt > > In a message dated 11/11/2010 19:06:11 GMT Standard Time, > michelle0471@... writes: > > > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think > pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > ____________________________________ > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like > usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks for that M. Most helpful. I'll make sure I'll send you the same useful message when I'm there for three weeks at Xmas ;-) kirsty x > > I am having same cravings its 81 degrees here............... > > Mandi from Tampa over and melt > > In a message dated 11/11/2010 19:06:11 GMT Standard Time, > michelle0471@... writes: > > > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think > pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > ____________________________________ > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like > usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because sam is on AC chelation, he has vitamins three times a day and drinks loads of water throughout, so don't think it's that;-( > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again > > like usual > > Kirsty > > X > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because sam is on AC chelation, he has vitamins three times a day and drinks loads of water throughout, so don't think it's that;-( > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again > > like usual > > Kirsty > > X > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Because sam is on AC chelation, he has vitamins three times a day and drinks loads of water throughout, so don't think it's that;-( > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again > > like usual > > Kirsty > > X > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I have read all the links you have sent me michelle on ZpICA and that with ice it is iron anemia. Does anyone know what form of iron is best for our kids? Sam eats red meat but will not eat liver or green veg. Have tried disguising liver mxny times in various dishes to no success. Sam was not anemic at his blood tests done about 6-9 months ago before we started chelation. Sam is supplemented zinc three times a day also so don't think it can be this. Any help would be gratefully received kirsty x > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I have read all the links you have sent me michelle on ZpICA and that with ice it is iron anemia. Does anyone know what form of iron is best for our kids? Sam eats red meat but will not eat liver or green veg. Have tried disguising liver mxny times in various dishes to no success. Sam was not anemic at his blood tests done about 6-9 months ago before we started chelation. Sam is supplemented zinc three times a day also so don't think it can be this. Any help would be gratefully received kirsty x > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I have read all the links you have sent me michelle on ZpICA and that with ice it is iron anemia. Does anyone know what form of iron is best for our kids? Sam eats red meat but will not eat liver or green veg. Have tried disguising liver mxny times in various dishes to no success. Sam was not anemic at his blood tests done about 6-9 months ago before we started chelation. Sam is supplemented zinc three times a day also so don't think it can be this. Any help would be gratefully received kirsty x > > > Hi Kirsty > > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this? > > x > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > From: greenkirsty1@... > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000 > Subject: Ice cubes obsession > > > > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes. > Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?! > Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual > Kirsty > X > > Sent from my iPhone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-156.html LactoferrinLactoferrin, a natural component of cow and human milk, is a subfraction of whey with well-documented antiviral, antimicrobial, anticancer, and immune modulating and enhancing effects. However, lactoferrin's best-known role is as an iron-binding protein. Lactoferrin acts as an antioxidant, scavenging free iron and helping to prevent uncontrolled iron-based free radical reactions. Interestingly, although lactoferrin is both an iron scavenger and donor (depending on the cellular environment), it has been found to scavenge or donate iron appropriately depending on what the body needs at any given time. At normal physiological pH, lactoferrin binds tightly to iron, diminishing oxidative stress to tissues (Brink 2000). Stella et al. (1995) examined the role of whey proteins, multifermented whey proteins, and lactoferrin in oxidative stress and made this bold statement: "We can conclude that whey protein, lactoferrin and multifermented whey are good candidates as dietary inhibitors of oxidative stress and should be considered as potential medicinal foods in various pathologies as HIV infection and cancer." http://www.healthyfellow.com/309/lactoferrin-and-anemia/ Fortunately, there is a scientifically validated alternative for those who cannot manage traditional iron replacement – a little known supplement called lactoferrin. Lactoferrin is a glycoprotein (a molecule that contains a carbohydrate and a protein) that is normally found in breast milk. Any baby who has been breast fed has already “supplemented” with and benefited from lactoferrin. It is relevant in the battle against anemia because it appears to improve iron absorption from food and helps transport this essential mineral to wherever it’s needed. x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:33:23 -0500Subject: Re: Re: Ice cubes obsession AC does not recommend iron for Hg toxic kids, I think its a mineral transport problem, there is a supp they says to give but I have forgotten, maybe check on A-M? I am thinking Lactoferrin for some reason, google to see if that removes excess iron, sounds backwards for the issue but will make sense Mandi x I have read all the links you have sent me michelle on ZpICA and that with ice it is iron anemia.Does anyone know what form of iron is best for our kids?Sam eats red meat but will not eat liver or green veg. Have tried disguising liver mxny times in various dishes to no success.Sam was not anemic at his blood tests done about 6-9 months ago before we started chelation.Sam is supplemented zinc three times a day also so don't think it can be this.Any help would be gratefully receivedkirstyx>> > Hi Kirsty> > Could it be pica, i have read that some kids who have pica eat ice? Think pica means low iron, can anyone confirm this?> > x > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:46:37 +0000> Subject: Ice cubes obsession> > > > > > > Sam at te moment is obsessed with eating ice cubes.> Anyone know if this means anything or am I just looking too much into it?!> Nothing wrong with his teeth or mouth just saying stomach ache again like usual> Kirsty> X> > Sent from my iPhone> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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