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Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

one has been very trying for me.

That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a few

days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down farther

in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top at

the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw because

his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:26:25 PM

Subject: Re: Cold house - KT

Since it took only two days to develop some " bite, " your kombucha clearly was

fermenting some (even if it wasn't obvious), but the difference in temp (and not

moving it around) was apparently all it needed to fully develop. Also, could be

that when you sampled it earlier, the area where you tested wasn't really

integrated w/ the more fermented part. (I don't know enough about specific

gravity of sweetened tea vs. fermented kombucha to really speculate a guess, but

when I first started making kt, folks said to dip a straw or turkey-baster

*below* the halfway point when you sample.)

In terms of how to " fix, " all you have to do is add more sweetened tea, and

start tasting in 3-5 days. If you add only a small amount of tea, won't take

long to ferment. (That's the concept behind " continuous brew. " ) If you add a

lot of tea, will take longer to create kombucha you like.

If you don't have enough room in your vessel to add the tea, you can divide the

kombucha (and scoby) between two vessels, so you have two batches of kombucha

going at same time.

Some people like using super-strong kombucha in the place of vinegar, BTW, as w/

salad dressings.

Good luck!

>

> My KT has been house-bound since Wed, because of advice from here not to move

>it from the house to the truck and back again from day to night. A week of that

>method did not ferment it anyway, because I tasted it Wed and it was still

>sweet.

>

> I tasted my KT again last night and it now bites like vinegar! Just 2 days did

>that! I think that spring has finally been warm enough during the nights since

>Wed that it did not cool the house down below fermenting temps. Finally! I have

>it on a high shelf at the ceiling height so it is about 2 degrees warmer there.

>

> Since it bites like vinegar now, taking my breath away when I swallow, should

I

>just leave both jugs be for a few more days before I pour it off to let it get

>more acidic? Or would you pour it all off except for, say 2 or 3 cups, and put

>one scoby in that to let that much get really acidic? Or does someone have an

>even better idea for me?

>

> Consider that it just might stay warm here now. We have had so much rain every

>week for about two months and it always kept the temps too cold in my house. I

>think it will stay warm now, though, because it rained yesterday and today and

>the rain did not cool the outside temps down. Most obviously because my brew

>bites now after these two days. So I might be over the cold hump where I live.

>

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Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

one has been very trying for me.

That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a few

days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down farther

in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top at

the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw because

his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:26:25 PM

Subject: Re: Cold house - KT

Since it took only two days to develop some " bite, " your kombucha clearly was

fermenting some (even if it wasn't obvious), but the difference in temp (and not

moving it around) was apparently all it needed to fully develop. Also, could be

that when you sampled it earlier, the area where you tested wasn't really

integrated w/ the more fermented part. (I don't know enough about specific

gravity of sweetened tea vs. fermented kombucha to really speculate a guess, but

when I first started making kt, folks said to dip a straw or turkey-baster

*below* the halfway point when you sample.)

In terms of how to " fix, " all you have to do is add more sweetened tea, and

start tasting in 3-5 days. If you add only a small amount of tea, won't take

long to ferment. (That's the concept behind " continuous brew. " ) If you add a

lot of tea, will take longer to create kombucha you like.

If you don't have enough room in your vessel to add the tea, you can divide the

kombucha (and scoby) between two vessels, so you have two batches of kombucha

going at same time.

Some people like using super-strong kombucha in the place of vinegar, BTW, as w/

salad dressings.

Good luck!

>

> My KT has been house-bound since Wed, because of advice from here not to move

>it from the house to the truck and back again from day to night. A week of that

>method did not ferment it anyway, because I tasted it Wed and it was still

>sweet.

>

> I tasted my KT again last night and it now bites like vinegar! Just 2 days did

>that! I think that spring has finally been warm enough during the nights since

>Wed that it did not cool the house down below fermenting temps. Finally! I have

>it on a high shelf at the ceiling height so it is about 2 degrees warmer there.

>

> Since it bites like vinegar now, taking my breath away when I swallow, should

I

>just leave both jugs be for a few more days before I pour it off to let it get

>more acidic? Or would you pour it all off except for, say 2 or 3 cups, and put

>one scoby in that to let that much get really acidic? Or does someone have an

>even better idea for me?

>

> Consider that it just might stay warm here now. We have had so much rain every

>week for about two months and it always kept the temps too cold in my house. I

>think it will stay warm now, though, because it rained yesterday and today and

>the rain did not cool the outside temps down. Most obviously because my brew

>bites now after these two days. So I might be over the cold hump where I live.

>

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Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

one has been very trying for me.

That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a few

days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down farther

in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top at

the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw because

his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:26:25 PM

Subject: Re: Cold house - KT

Since it took only two days to develop some " bite, " your kombucha clearly was

fermenting some (even if it wasn't obvious), but the difference in temp (and not

moving it around) was apparently all it needed to fully develop. Also, could be

that when you sampled it earlier, the area where you tested wasn't really

integrated w/ the more fermented part. (I don't know enough about specific

gravity of sweetened tea vs. fermented kombucha to really speculate a guess, but

when I first started making kt, folks said to dip a straw or turkey-baster

*below* the halfway point when you sample.)

In terms of how to " fix, " all you have to do is add more sweetened tea, and

start tasting in 3-5 days. If you add only a small amount of tea, won't take

long to ferment. (That's the concept behind " continuous brew. " ) If you add a

lot of tea, will take longer to create kombucha you like.

If you don't have enough room in your vessel to add the tea, you can divide the

kombucha (and scoby) between two vessels, so you have two batches of kombucha

going at same time.

Some people like using super-strong kombucha in the place of vinegar, BTW, as w/

salad dressings.

Good luck!

>

> My KT has been house-bound since Wed, because of advice from here not to move

>it from the house to the truck and back again from day to night. A week of that

>method did not ferment it anyway, because I tasted it Wed and it was still

>sweet.

>

> I tasted my KT again last night and it now bites like vinegar! Just 2 days did

>that! I think that spring has finally been warm enough during the nights since

>Wed that it did not cool the house down below fermenting temps. Finally! I have

>it on a high shelf at the ceiling height so it is about 2 degrees warmer there.

>

> Since it bites like vinegar now, taking my breath away when I swallow, should

I

>just leave both jugs be for a few more days before I pour it off to let it get

>more acidic? Or would you pour it all off except for, say 2 or 3 cups, and put

>one scoby in that to let that much get really acidic? Or does someone have an

>even better idea for me?

>

> Consider that it just might stay warm here now. We have had so much rain every

>week for about two months and it always kept the temps too cold in my house. I

>think it will stay warm now, though, because it rained yesterday and today and

>the rain did not cool the outside temps down. Most obviously because my brew

>bites now after these two days. So I might be over the cold hump where I live.

>

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You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away with

the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the shelf

at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE ME. It

does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really solid,

so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the sides.

It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

________________________________

Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

one has been very trying for me.

That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a few

days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down farther

in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top at

the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw because

his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:26:25 PM

Subject: Re: Cold house - KT

Since it took only two days to develop some " bite, " your kombucha clearly was

fermenting some (even if it wasn't obvious), but the difference in temp (and not

moving it around) was apparently all it needed to fully develop. Also, could be

that when you sampled it earlier, the area where you tested wasn't really

integrated w/ the more fermented part. (I don't know enough about specific

gravity of sweetened tea vs. fermented kombucha to really speculate a guess, but

when I first started making kt, folks said to dip a straw or turkey-baster

*below* the halfway point when you sample.)

In terms of how to " fix, " all you have to do is add more sweetened tea, and

start tasting in 3-5 days. If you add only a small amount of tea, won't take

long to ferment. (That's the concept behind " continuous brew. " ) If you add a

lot of tea, will take longer to create kombucha you like.

If you don't have enough room in your vessel to add the tea, you can divide the

kombucha (and scoby) between two vessels, so you have two batches of kombucha

going at same time.

Some people like using super-strong kombucha in the place of vinegar, BTW, as w/

salad dressings.

Good luck!

>

> My KT has been house-bound since Wed, because of advice from here not to move

>it from the house to the truck and back again from day to night. A week of that

>method did not ferment it anyway, because I tasted it Wed and it was still

>sweet.

>

> I tasted my KT again last night and it now bites like vinegar! Just 2 days did

>that! I think that spring has finally been warm enough during the nights since

>Wed that it did not cool the house down below fermenting temps. Finally! I have

>it on a high shelf at the ceiling height so it is about 2 degrees warmer there.

>

> Since it bites like vinegar now, taking my breath away when I swallow, should

I

>

>just leave both jugs be for a few more days before I pour it off to let it get

>more acidic? Or would you pour it all off except for, say 2 or 3 cups, and put

>one scoby in that to let that much get really acidic? Or does someone have an

>even better idea for me?

>

> Consider that it just might stay warm here now. We have had so much rain every

>week for about two months and it always kept the temps too cold in my house. I

>think it will stay warm now, though, because it rained yesterday and today and

>the rain did not cool the outside temps down. Most obviously because my brew

>bites now after these two days. So I might be over the cold hump where I live.

>

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You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away with

the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the shelf

at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE ME. It

does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really solid,

so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the sides.

It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

________________________________

Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

one has been very trying for me.

That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a few

days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down farther

in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top at

the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw because

his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 1:26:25 PM

Subject: Re: Cold house - KT

Since it took only two days to develop some " bite, " your kombucha clearly was

fermenting some (even if it wasn't obvious), but the difference in temp (and not

moving it around) was apparently all it needed to fully develop. Also, could be

that when you sampled it earlier, the area where you tested wasn't really

integrated w/ the more fermented part. (I don't know enough about specific

gravity of sweetened tea vs. fermented kombucha to really speculate a guess, but

when I first started making kt, folks said to dip a straw or turkey-baster

*below* the halfway point when you sample.)

In terms of how to " fix, " all you have to do is add more sweetened tea, and

start tasting in 3-5 days. If you add only a small amount of tea, won't take

long to ferment. (That's the concept behind " continuous brew. " ) If you add a

lot of tea, will take longer to create kombucha you like.

If you don't have enough room in your vessel to add the tea, you can divide the

kombucha (and scoby) between two vessels, so you have two batches of kombucha

going at same time.

Some people like using super-strong kombucha in the place of vinegar, BTW, as w/

salad dressings.

Good luck!

>

> My KT has been house-bound since Wed, because of advice from here not to move

>it from the house to the truck and back again from day to night. A week of that

>method did not ferment it anyway, because I tasted it Wed and it was still

>sweet.

>

> I tasted my KT again last night and it now bites like vinegar! Just 2 days did

>that! I think that spring has finally been warm enough during the nights since

>Wed that it did not cool the house down below fermenting temps. Finally! I have

>it on a high shelf at the ceiling height so it is about 2 degrees warmer there.

>

> Since it bites like vinegar now, taking my breath away when I swallow, should

I

>

>just leave both jugs be for a few more days before I pour it off to let it get

>more acidic? Or would you pour it all off except for, say 2 or 3 cups, and put

>one scoby in that to let that much get really acidic? Or does someone have an

>even better idea for me?

>

> Consider that it just might stay warm here now. We have had so much rain every

>week for about two months and it always kept the temps too cold in my house. I

>think it will stay warm now, though, because it rained yesterday and today and

>the rain did not cool the outside temps down. Most obviously because my brew

>bites now after these two days. So I might be over the cold hump where I live.

>

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Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

informational dreck

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

Hi Vicki,

It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning of

February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once. It's

just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday, tasted

some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and it

is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained through

the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

getting is definitely great for gardens!

I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do that.

She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for her

health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat much.

The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me new

cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one that

burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day I

will be helping her with temperature issues.

I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two jugs.

So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just hope

this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

________________________________

I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

long wait.

I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

" growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

Good luck,

Vicki

>

> You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

>

>

> the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

>

>

> at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE ME.

>It

>

> does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

>

> I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

>

>

> so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

>

>

> It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

>

> Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

> one has been very trying for me.

>

> That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

>

>

> days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

> gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

>

>

> in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

>

>

> the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

>because

>

>

> his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

>

> Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

> and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

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Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

informational dreck

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

Hi Vicki,

It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning of

February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once. It's

just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday, tasted

some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and it

is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained through

the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

getting is definitely great for gardens!

I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do that.

She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for her

health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat much.

The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me new

cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one that

burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day I

will be helping her with temperature issues.

I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two jugs.

So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just hope

this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

________________________________

I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

long wait.

I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

" growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

Good luck,

Vicki

>

> You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

>

>

> the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

>

>

> at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE ME.

>It

>

> does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

>

> I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

>

>

> so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

>

>

> It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

>

> Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

> one has been very trying for me.

>

> That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

>

>

> days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

> gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

>

>

> in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

>

>

> the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

>because

>

>

> his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

>

> Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

> and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

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Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

informational dreck

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

Hi Vicki,

It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning of

February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once. It's

just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday, tasted

some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and it

is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained through

the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

getting is definitely great for gardens!

I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do that.

She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for her

health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat much.

The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me new

cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one that

burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day I

will be helping her with temperature issues.

I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two jugs.

So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just hope

this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

________________________________

I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

long wait.

I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

" growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

Good luck,

Vicki

>

> You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

>

>

> the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

>

>

> at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE ME.

>It

>

> does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

>

> I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

>

>

> so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

>

>

> It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

>

> Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

>

> Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas. This

> one has been very trying for me.

>

> That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

>

>

> days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it have

> gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

>

>

> in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

>

>

> the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

>because

>

>

> his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

>

> Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some out

> and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

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ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

flourish.

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ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

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ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

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To be honest...folks make this way hardee than it is....

> Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

> Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

> were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

> thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

> my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

> But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

> 'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

> morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

> informational dreck

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: original_kombucha

> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

>

> Hi Vicki,

>

> It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning

of

> February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once.

It's

> just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday,

tasted

>

> some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and

it

>

> is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained

through

> the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

> getting is definitely great for gardens!

>

> I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

> apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

> friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

> having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

> now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do

that.

>

> She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for

her

>

> health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

> trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat

much.

> The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

> opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me

new

> cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one

that

> burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day

I

> will be helping her with temperature issues.

>

> I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

> them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two

jugs.

>

> So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just

hope

>

> this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

> struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

> cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

> long wait.

>

> I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

> a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

> liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

> cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

>

> It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

> " growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

> needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

> fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

>

> Good luck,

>

> Vicki

>

>

> >

> > You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> > after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

> >

> >

> > the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

> >

> >

> > at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE

ME.

> >It

> >

> > does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

> >

> > I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> > weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> > well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> > explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

> >

> >

> > so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

> >

> >

> > It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

> >

> > Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas.

This

> > one has been very trying for me.

> >

> > That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

> >

> >

> > days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it

have

>

> > gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

> >

> >

> > in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

> >

> >

> > the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

> >because

> >

> >

> > his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

> >

> > Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some

out

>

> > and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

>

>

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To be honest...folks make this way hardee than it is....

> Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

> Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

> were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

> thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

> my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

> But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

> 'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

> morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

> informational dreck

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: original_kombucha

> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

>

> Hi Vicki,

>

> It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning

of

> February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once.

It's

> just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday,

tasted

>

> some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and

it

>

> is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained

through

> the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

> getting is definitely great for gardens!

>

> I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

> apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

> friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

> having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

> now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do

that.

>

> She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for

her

>

> health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

> trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat

much.

> The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

> opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me

new

> cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one

that

> burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day

I

> will be helping her with temperature issues.

>

> I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

> them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two

jugs.

>

> So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just

hope

>

> this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

> struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

> cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

> long wait.

>

> I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

> a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

> liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

> cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

>

> It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

> " growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

> needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

> fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

>

> Good luck,

>

> Vicki

>

>

> >

> > You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> > after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

> >

> >

> > the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

> >

> >

> > at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE

ME.

> >It

> >

> > does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

> >

> > I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> > weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> > well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> > explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

> >

> >

> > so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

> >

> >

> > It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

> >

> > Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas.

This

> > one has been very trying for me.

> >

> > That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

> >

> >

> > days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it

have

>

> > gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

> >

> >

> > in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

> >

> >

> > the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

> >because

> >

> >

> > his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

> >

> > Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some

out

>

> > and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

>

>

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To be honest...folks make this way hardee than it is....

> Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

> Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

> were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

> thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

> my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

> But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

> 'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

> morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

> informational dreck

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: original_kombucha

> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

>

> Hi Vicki,

>

> It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning

of

> February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once.

It's

> just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday,

tasted

>

> some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and

it

>

> is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained

through

> the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

> getting is definitely great for gardens!

>

> I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

> apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

> friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

> having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

> now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do

that.

>

> She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for

her

>

> health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

> trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat

much.

> The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

> opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me

new

> cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one

that

> burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day

I

> will be helping her with temperature issues.

>

> I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

> them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two

jugs.

>

> So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just

hope

>

> this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

> struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

> cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

> long wait.

>

> I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

> a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

> liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

> cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

>

> It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

> " growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

> needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

> fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

>

> Good luck,

>

> Vicki

>

>

> >

> > You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> > after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

with

> >

> >

> > the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

shelf

> >

> >

> > at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE

ME.

> >It

> >

> > does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

> >

> > I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> > weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> > well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> > explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

solid,

> >

> >

> > so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

sides.

> >

> >

> > It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

> >

> > Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas.

This

> > one has been very trying for me.

> >

> > That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

few

> >

> >

> > days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it

have

>

> > gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

farther

> >

> >

> > in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

at

> >

> >

> > the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

> >because

> >

> >

> > his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

> >

> > Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some

out

>

> > and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

>

>

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My house is only 58 degrees most of the year. I just started researching a

healthier diet in Jan and KT entered in Feb. I am not making it hard. What is

hard for me is making it warm for just my KT, but not too warm. My first

attempts made it too warm. Tey were simmer temps and my scoby cooked.

I think I have found it for now though. The temps here this week have been low

60ish and that is just barely warm enough to start to brew. So I thought of

something else that is a warmer that I have already in the house and could try.

I have two electric cup warmers. My kt is already in a box (on a shelf at

ceiling height,) so the box came down last night and one cup warmer put inside

and to layers of cloth as a lid to keep the heat in. The temp this morning is

80. I think I have hit on it finally. The light issue is taken care of and it

does not get too much heat with this and I get to use something I had not found

useful in any other way. (I drink tea sometimes., but I drink out of a 20 oz cup

and they don't fit those warmers. My cup is too big for the hot plate.)

I will do that search you suggest, tho. I could use some recipes, so maybe I

will find some that way. My first successful brew for myself, which I am

drinking for the last two days came out only marginal, I'm sure.

________________________________

To be honest...folks make this way hardee than it is....

> Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

> Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

> were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

> thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

> my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

> But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

> 'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

> morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

> informational dreck

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: original_kombucha

> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

>

> Hi Vicki,

>

> It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning

of

>

> February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once.

It's

>

> just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday,

>tasted

>

>

> some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and

>it

>

>

> is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained

through

>

> the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

> getting is definitely great for gardens!

>

> I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

> apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

> friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

> having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

> now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do

>that.

>

>

> She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for

>her

>

>

> health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

> trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat

much.

>

> The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

> opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me

new

>

> cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one

that

>

> burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day

I

>

> will be helping her with temperature issues.

>

> I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

> them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two

>jugs.

>

>

> So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just

>hope

>

>

> this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

> struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

> cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

> long wait.

>

> I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

> a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

> liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

> cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

>

> It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

> " growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

> needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

> fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

>

> Good luck,

>

> Vicki

>

>

> >

> > You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> > after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

>with

>

> >

> >

> > the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

>shelf

>

> >

> >

> > at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE

ME.

>

> >It

> >

> > does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

> >

> > I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> > weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> > well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> > explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

>solid,

>

> >

> >

> > so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

>sides.

>

> >

> >

> > It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

> >

> > Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas.

This

>

> > one has been very trying for me.

> >

> > That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

>few

>

> >

> >

> > days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it

>have

>

>

> > gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

>farther

>

> >

> >

> > in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

>at

>

> >

> >

> > the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

> >because

> >

> >

> > his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

> >

> > Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some

>out

>

>

> > and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

>

>

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My house is only 58 degrees most of the year. I just started researching a

healthier diet in Jan and KT entered in Feb. I am not making it hard. What is

hard for me is making it warm for just my KT, but not too warm. My first

attempts made it too warm. Tey were simmer temps and my scoby cooked.

I think I have found it for now though. The temps here this week have been low

60ish and that is just barely warm enough to start to brew. So I thought of

something else that is a warmer that I have already in the house and could try.

I have two electric cup warmers. My kt is already in a box (on a shelf at

ceiling height,) so the box came down last night and one cup warmer put inside

and to layers of cloth as a lid to keep the heat in. The temp this morning is

80. I think I have hit on it finally. The light issue is taken care of and it

does not get too much heat with this and I get to use something I had not found

useful in any other way. (I drink tea sometimes., but I drink out of a 20 oz cup

and they don't fit those warmers. My cup is too big for the hot plate.)

I will do that search you suggest, tho. I could use some recipes, so maybe I

will find some that way. My first successful brew for myself, which I am

drinking for the last two days came out only marginal, I'm sure.

________________________________

To be honest...folks make this way hardee than it is....

> Before I ever got onto this " Kombucha " thread, I went on the internet and

> Googled " Kombucha cultures. " It put me onto a lot of websites and videos that

> were VERY INFORMATIVE. It amazes me how little some people who are on this

> thread actually know about how to do the KT thing. This is where I got most of

> my 411. Hannah Crum's website is super-dependable, as is this guy named Dave.

> But you will also find a lot of people (more videos) who have a lot of

> 'variations on the theme' that can get confusing. Personally, I prefer a

> morepurist approach. Check it out. It should clear away some of the

> informational dreck

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: original_kombucha

> Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:17 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

>

> Hi Vicki,

>

> It's been longer than 4-6 weeks. It's been since the end of Jan or beginning

of

>

> February. I started the crazy journey back then and did not taste KT once.

It's

>

> just been 4-6 weeks for the current two scobys. I bottled this on Sunday,

>tasted

>

>

> some yesterday and it was fizzy and lightly carbonated, tasted some today and

>it

>

>

> is flat. So I guess the hotter your house, the better because it rained

through

>

> the night here and cooled the temps down in the house. All this rain we're

> getting is definitely great for gardens!

>

> I added starter KT to the new brews and also 1 cup of Braggs raw, unfiltered

> apple cider vinegar. I hope that kind is OK. I have needed to go to my scoby

> friend for three scobys and starter, and twice for kefir grains, because I am

> having so much trouble getting going. So I did not want to go to her again for

> now two more cups of starter. Plus I just didn't have time on Sunday to do

>that.

>

>

> She only brews a gallon at a time and I want to let her keep all of that for

>her

>

>

> health. She wishes she knew more so she could help me, but she has not had any

> trouble. She lives in an apartment and does not even need to use her heat

much.

>

> The other apartments on either side of her keep it so hot that sometimes she

> opens windows for air! She has no clue how to help me, so she just gives me

new

>

> cultures and wishes me luck. She's looking for a house and if she buys one

that

>

> burns gas, she'll be trying to scrimp on fuel, too, like me. So maybe one day

I

>

> will be helping her with temperature issues.

>

> I have both bottles back on the top shelf. They are in a small box that keeps

> them snug together because it is easier for me to pull a box down than two

>jugs.

>

>

> So they are pretty well in total darkness with tea towels over them. I just

>hope

>

>

> this batch does much better. I am about due for an easy one, I think.

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> I missed the earlier part of your posts, did not realize you have been

> struggling with this for 4-6 weeks! Not sure where you live, but clearly the

> cold environment in the beginning of your ferment had something to do with the

> long wait.

>

> I would not expect bottling to change the quality of this batch. Might give it

> a good stir, then start from scratch, using some of this kombucha as starter

> liquid. (If possible, also add some raw kombucha from another source. If you

> cannot get any, substitute *distilled* vinegar, either white or cider.)

>

> It's not that kombucha doesn't like *you*; it wasn't happy where you were

> " growing " it... sometimes it takes a while to get attuned to another being's

> needs! Just like moving a plant to a sunnier spot, or giving it appropriate

> fertilizer... You WILL get there if you keep trying!

>

> Good luck,

>

> Vicki

>

>

> >

> > You are NOT going to believe me when I say this, because I almost don't. But

> > after I tasted it yesterday for the second time and it took my breath away

>with

>

> >

> >

> > the bite, I just kept it on the kitchen table (did not put it back on the

>shelf

>

> >

> >

> > at ceiling height) and now it is sweet again. KOMBUCHA JUST DOES NOT LIKE

ME.

>

> >It

> >

> > does not have ANY of the bite it had Friday and Sat.

> >

> > I'm just gonna bottle it and see what it does anyway. It's been four to six

> > weeks now for both jugs. I just don't know what it wants. The house temp was

> > well within fermenting temps again in the last 24 hours, so I don't have any

> > explanation as to why this is doing this to me. My third scoby is really

>solid,

>

> >

> >

> > so that grew. My second scoby did something, but it shrank away from the

>sides.

>

> >

> >

> > It looks like there is more of it hanging down in the jug.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you, thank you ,THANK YOU.

> >

> > Sometimes I just need help to think through my journey full of dilemmas.

This

>

> > one has been very trying for me.

> >

> > That makes sense, what you said about the two different times I tasted it a

>few

>

> >

> >

> > days apart. I was kind of thinking the same way because how else could it

>have

>

>

> > gotten so very much of a bite if it hadn't already been fermenting down

>farther

>

> >

> >

> > in the jar? I just have thought that the more acidic tea would be at the top

>at

>

> >

> >

> > the scoby. I actually called my Dad and told him to try his with a straw

> >because

> >

> >

> > his is taking a long time, too. He is learning right along-side of me.

> >

> > Thanks for the fixer upper idea, too. I will do that. I can just take some

>out

>

>

> > and use it other ways and make room for more sweet tea.

>

>

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You trimmed too much. Who are you replying to?

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ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

flourish.

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You trimmed too much. Who are you replying to?

________________________________

ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

flourish.

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You trimmed too much. Who are you replying to?

________________________________

ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

flourish.

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I got barked at for NOT TRIMMING other e-mails off my postings -- " tail is too

long. " Maybe one day I'll get it right. (LOL) I was replying to the only one

I left on there.

________________________________

To: original_kombucha

Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 9:04:46 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold house - KT

You trimmed too much. Who are you replying to?

________________________________

ABSOLUTELY!! The Kombucha culture (SCOBY) is a LIVING, BREATHING piece of LIFE.

It's like you said, like a plant that's needs need to be understood in order to

flourish.

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