Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 They cannot turn you down based on a disability of any kind, we are protected by the americans with disabilities act, even private daycares, though I do not have all the details. They cannot deny a child because they have autism, the only way they can deny a child is if the child is a direct threat to the safety of the other children, and they can't just say he's autistic so he's a threat, they have to do individual assessment. This site has all the details. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > > > > > > > Lesli Bernanke > Director of Special Programs > Special Effects > www.specialeffectslearning.com > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I was a child care director--they cannot deny you based on diagnosis. We had a child with severe autism (he could not take 2 steps in a row without being kept on track) whose family provided the facilitator needed for their son to get what he needed. I have my son in a mothers day out program that has gymnastics and " pre school stuff " and we have a facilitator for him that we provide (a Special Ed major from Texas A & M--we live in --they need volunteer hours,so it is technically free for us, but we " pay " them with a small Walmart gift card to cover gas/food each week--they are college students, and they are so grateful for that, I feel it helps the relationship with my son. They have never missed a day) You also have to ask the question in reverse--do YOU want your child in that place? If they do not have the staff available to properly care and work on interventions with your child, you would be better off elsewhere. I was the director of the childcare my son atttended, and my best friend (his doting " auntie " ) was his teacher--he was not getting enough regular attention due to the high maintenance kids in the room. We definitely could not give him the extra attention and intervention (nothing out of the ordinary, just how we played with him) he needed. I left the job when he was 7 months old and " only " severely impaired at that point--no autism dx. The early years are so critical, you need to be sure that the placement is best for your child. We dropped a tax bracket and qualified SSI, Medicaid ( covers his medical copays and rehab center copays--we also have private insurance on him )and WIC (covers his special allergy free formula at $350 a month). He is much better off with me not working in terms of services (I could not afford all the copays and therapies WITH my job and paying child care), me not needing to ask time off (and risk LOSING the job) to take him to his therapies and dr appts, etc., me being available to research and advocate for him.....When he is older and in school, I will return to work. We had to sacrifice on non-essentials, refinance our house, etc. but figgure the investment in our son's future NOW will yield a bigger return in time and money down the road. > > They cannot turn you down based on a disability of any kind, we are > protected by the americans with disabilities act, even private > daycares, though I do not have all the details. They cannot deny a > child because they have autism, the only way they can deny a child > is if the child is a direct threat to the safety of the other > children, and they can't just say he's autistic so he's a threat, > they have to do individual assessment. This site has all the > details. > > http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > > > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to > take children > > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he > cried to > > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be > able > > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lesli Bernanke > > Director of Special Programs > > Special Effects > > www.specialeffectslearning.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > Travel. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I was a child care director--they cannot deny you based on diagnosis. We had a child with severe autism (he could not take 2 steps in a row without being kept on track) whose family provided the facilitator needed for their son to get what he needed. I have my son in a mothers day out program that has gymnastics and " pre school stuff " and we have a facilitator for him that we provide (a Special Ed major from Texas A & M--we live in --they need volunteer hours,so it is technically free for us, but we " pay " them with a small Walmart gift card to cover gas/food each week--they are college students, and they are so grateful for that, I feel it helps the relationship with my son. They have never missed a day) You also have to ask the question in reverse--do YOU want your child in that place? If they do not have the staff available to properly care and work on interventions with your child, you would be better off elsewhere. I was the director of the childcare my son atttended, and my best friend (his doting " auntie " ) was his teacher--he was not getting enough regular attention due to the high maintenance kids in the room. We definitely could not give him the extra attention and intervention (nothing out of the ordinary, just how we played with him) he needed. I left the job when he was 7 months old and " only " severely impaired at that point--no autism dx. The early years are so critical, you need to be sure that the placement is best for your child. We dropped a tax bracket and qualified SSI, Medicaid ( covers his medical copays and rehab center copays--we also have private insurance on him )and WIC (covers his special allergy free formula at $350 a month). He is much better off with me not working in terms of services (I could not afford all the copays and therapies WITH my job and paying child care), me not needing to ask time off (and risk LOSING the job) to take him to his therapies and dr appts, etc., me being available to research and advocate for him.....When he is older and in school, I will return to work. We had to sacrifice on non-essentials, refinance our house, etc. but figgure the investment in our son's future NOW will yield a bigger return in time and money down the road. > > They cannot turn you down based on a disability of any kind, we are > protected by the americans with disabilities act, even private > daycares, though I do not have all the details. They cannot deny a > child because they have autism, the only way they can deny a child > is if the child is a direct threat to the safety of the other > children, and they can't just say he's autistic so he's a threat, > they have to do individual assessment. This site has all the > details. > > http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > > > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to > take children > > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he > cried to > > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be > able > > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lesli Bernanke > > Director of Special Programs > > Special Effects > > www.specialeffectslearning.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > Travel. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 I need to add that not only was I the director, I was in my son's class at least 4 hours a day and could not work with him--the class ratio was 2 adults to 7 children, I was the 3rd adult for 2 of those hours each day. He was the youngest for 6 of the 7 months he was there (yeah, he started at 8 days old when I went back to work--after a c-section!!) and the oldest was only 8 months older than him. He would go 2 hours past a feeding and not complain--even with me in there and he never napped at school from 7 am to close to 6 pm and then slept until the next morning when we got him ready for school. I could rouse him enough to nurse, but could not play with him, let alone do any interventions. He definitely was not going to be building any social skills playing hapily in his crib (during required rest time attempts) or in the exersaucer by himself. Even now as a toddler, I won't leave him anywhere, not even church nursery without someone designated to watch HIM--he is a good kid who entertains himself, but climbs, pokes his fingers in faces exploring them, escapes, used to bite in exploration--he would need to be less than 6 inches away to see something/some one and would then explore with his mouth. I could not put other children in situations of possible harm or my son in danger from his climbing and escaping or getting bit by a child whose mouth he is exploring. I also did not want the label of " the biter " or the " poker " on my son, as it was his way of exploring until he developed enough of a visual memory to recall what items were without fully poking or mouthing them each time. If your son is likely to be in time out for his developmentally and individualy appropriate behavior, I would rethink the situation as well. > > I was a child care director--they cannot deny you based on diagnosis. We > had a child with severe autism (he could not take 2 steps in a row without > being kept on track) whose family provided the facilitator needed for their > son to get what he needed. I have my son in a mothers day out program that > has gymnastics and " pre school stuff " and we have a facilitator for him that > we provide (a Special Ed major from Texas A & M--we live in --they need > volunteer hours,so it is technically free for us, but we " pay " them with a > small Walmart gift card to cover gas/food each week--they are college > students, and they are so grateful for that, I feel it helps the > relationship with my son. They have never missed a day) > You also have to ask the question in reverse--do YOU want your child in > that place? If they do not have the staff available to properly care and > work on interventions with your child, you would be better off elsewhere. > I was the director of the childcare my son atttended, and my best friend > (his doting " auntie " ) was his teacher--he was not getting enough regular > attention due to the high maintenance kids in the room. We definitely could > not give him the extra attention and intervention (nothing out of the > ordinary, just how we played with him) he needed. I left the job when he > was 7 months old and " only " severely impaired at that point--no autism dx. > The early years are so critical, you need to be sure that the placement is > best for your child. We dropped a tax bracket and qualified SSI, Medicaid ( > covers his medical copays and rehab center copays--we also have private > insurance on him )and WIC (covers his special allergy free formula at $350 a > month). He is much better off with me not working in terms of services (I > could not afford all the copays and therapies WITH my job and paying child > care), me not needing to ask time off (and risk LOSING the job) to take him > to his therapies and dr appts, etc., me being available to research and > advocate for him.....When he is older and in school, I will return to work. > We had to sacrifice on non-essentials, refinance our house, etc. but figgure > the investment in our son's future NOW will yield a bigger return in time > and money down the road. > > > > > > They cannot turn you down based on a disability of any kind, we are > > protected by the americans with disabilities act, even private > > daycares, though I do not have all the details. They cannot deny a > > child because they have autism, the only way they can deny a child > > is if the child is a direct threat to the safety of the other > > children, and they can't just say he's autistic so he's a threat, > > they have to do individual assessment. This site has all the > > details. > > > > http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > > > > > > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to > > take children > > > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he > > cried to > > > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be > > able > > > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lesli Bernanke > > > Director of Special Programs > > > Special Effects > > > www.specialeffectsl earning.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! > > Travel. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 there are also rules about day cares not having to take a child who is not potty trained if they do not have the existing facilities to handle the task. wrote: > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 That would be for ages 3 and up--you need one accessible potty for every 17 children, and you need handwashing facilities right next to all toilet and diapering areas, positioned so that you (ther teacher) can maintain supervision (visual or auditory) of all the children in your care and keep the proper adult to child ratios at all times. Also a child cannot be sent by themselves, must be with a center employee who is authorized to work with the children, or the childs own parent. > > there are also rules about day cares not having to take a child who is > not potty trained if they do not have the existing facilities to handle the > task. > > > > <joshstone@... <joshstone%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried > to > > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be > able > > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for > this. > > > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care > centers can and can't do. > http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Hi, I mostly read the emails but never respond. You might check out Primrose schools (it is also a childcare center) from six weeks to private kindergarten. I used to work for one and we had 3 autistic children on our campus. An 18 month old, a 2yr old and 4yr old. These students even had their private OT/PT coming 2days a week to work with them. They rarely turn people away unless they are to capacity but they have plenty of help and toilets and even help with the potty training. I hope this helps you and you can look them up online. Re: Re: child care centers there are also rules about day cares not having to take a child who is not potty trained if they do not have the existing facilities to handle the task. <joshstone@sbcglobal <mailto:joshstone%40sbcglobal.net> .net> wrote: > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj. <http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm> gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Hi, I mostly read the emails but never respond. You might check out Primrose schools (it is also a childcare center) from six weeks to private kindergarten. I used to work for one and we had 3 autistic children on our campus. An 18 month old, a 2yr old and 4yr old. These students even had their private OT/PT coming 2days a week to work with them. They rarely turn people away unless they are to capacity but they have plenty of help and toilets and even help with the potty training. I hope this helps you and you can look them up online. Re: Re: child care centers there are also rules about day cares not having to take a child who is not potty trained if they do not have the existing facilities to handle the task. <joshstone@sbcglobal <mailto:joshstone%40sbcglobal.net> .net> wrote: > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried to > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be able > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for this. > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care centers can and can't do. http://www.usdoj. <http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm> gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 I remember the first time I was denied access to a private day care center. They were honest and informed me that they did not have the staff trained to handle my son. He was a " runner, " and they could not secure him and assure his safety. I was angry, hurt, distraught. I did not think it was " legal, " to deny my son's access. I immediately called the ARC of Fort Bend. They informed me that the protection under the Disabilities Act covered my son in public facilites. But in private institutions, not receiving any governmental or public support, could mandate their own set of rules. This was about 4 years ago. Fast forward to today...daycares are not going to be able to afford denying access moreso and moreso. The incidence of autism is too great to not include our children. In my situation, I stopped working after my son was injured at a daycare and no one could explain what happened (he was nonverbal). It is not always feasible to stop working, but we down-sized and continue to " make it " on one pay-check. Just make sure, if the daycare says, OK; pop in frequently and make sure your child is receiving optimum care. The YMCA-Missouri City has been very good to my son; and the staff plants several sets of eyes on him when he joins after-school or extra-curricular activities (still a runner--still low-communicative verbally, but very social). Trust your instincts. God bless you and your family. > > > > Does anyone know if child care centers are required to take children > > with autism? I have an 18 month old and I was told that if he cried > to > > much and they had to spend to much time with him he would not be > able > > to go there. Just wanted to know if there were any guidelines for > this. > > > This site will answer all the question you have about what child care > centers can and can't do. > http://www.usdoj. <http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm> > gov/crt/ada/childq & a.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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