Re: Is 'Arthritis' for some a mold-driven illness?

[Guest guest]

-sounds a lot like what i went through, but my faily doctor was

constantly telling me it was caused from my back injury at work even

though i was telling him it wasn't. and now after being out of the

mold its proven so, that I was right. of corse it plays a part in

degenerative desease and arthritis. I will post a link you will find

very interesting.-- In , LiveSimply

<quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get

INCREDIBLE aches

> and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I

moved out

> of the moldy apartment.

>

> They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a

broom,

> stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This

would go

> on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work.

Sometimes I

> could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in

bed, in

> pain..

>

> Advil, Aleve, Tylenol, aspirin, none would help appreciably. I

thought that

> I was getting arthritis... I would make doctors appointments but by

the time

> the appointment rolled around, the bout would usually be much

improved..

> only to come back again unexpectedly again later.. When we

realized the

> mold was connected to my other health problems I also realized that

this

> joint pain came and went with the mold.. It was so painful that I

can't

> imagine anyone enduring this for years without suffering permanent

joint or

> nerve damage..

>

> Would doctors end up calling this arthritis, if the person was

older?

>

> So, my question is does anyone think that toxic mold exposure

drives some

> people's getting arthritis? And eventually, needing hip

replacements- etc.

>

> (But that they don't know it, say if the mold is hidden inside of

walls and

> doesn't smell much.. or even if it does..)

>

> Those hip replacements are a huge moneymaker for the medical

industry..BTW..

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<http://www.psc-literature.org/arthritis.htm>

-- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get

INCREDIBLE aches

> and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I

moved out

> of the moldy apartment.

>

> They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a

broom,

> stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This

would go

> on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work.

Sometimes I

> could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in

bed, in

> pain..

>

> Advil, Aleve, Tylenol, aspirin, none would help appreciably. I

thought that

> I was getting arthritis... I would make doctors appointments but by

the time

> the appointment rolled around, the bout would usually be much

improved..

> only to come back again unexpectedly again later.. When we

realized the

> mold was connected to my other health problems I also realized that

this

> joint pain came and went with the mold.. It was so painful that I

can't

> imagine anyone enduring this for years without suffering permanent

joint or

> nerve damage..

>

> Would doctors end up calling this arthritis, if the person was

older?

>

> So, my question is does anyone think that toxic mold exposure

drives some

> people's getting arthritis? And eventually, needing hip

replacements- etc.

>

> (But that they don't know it, say if the mold is hidden inside of

walls and

> doesn't smell much.. or even if it does..)

>

> Those hip replacements are a huge moneymaker for the medical

industry..BTW..

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows, knees, shoulders and hips.

My hands

ached so badly that I could hold a pen, the steering wheel or open a door!

When I

laid on my back I couldn't even rest my elbows on the mattress because they

hurt so

much. Since leaving and being on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol those aches and

pains are

pretty much gone with an occasional flare up in my elbows after an exposure.

Sue

This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches

and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out

of the moldy apartment.

They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom,

stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go

on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I

could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in

pain..

This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches

and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out

of the moldy apartment.

They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom,

stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go

on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I

could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in

pain..

[Guest guest]

I started getting fibromyagic like pain but I was

on the mold trail already and I think going on

the sugar free diet and putting in my fresh air

intake and getting a better filter, etc, etc

reversed that since the pain stopped and didn't

come back. I also had seen Dr Shoe and taken CSM

but very little of it due to intolerance but who

knows maybe the little bit helped me since when I

went there I was still having the pain and

sometime after that pain gone. I was getting

shooting pains down my leg recently but that was

definately nerve pain and I haven't had that

since I moved out of moldy house. It is the only

difference I can tell so far. Otherwise don't

feel any better. I don't know if pain is gone

for good or just temporarily gone but it's enough

to want to limit exposure to home. I finally

finished a whole can of CSM but it took me about

a year and a month.

--- ssr3351@... wrote:

> I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows,

> knees, shoulders and hips.

> My hands

>

[Guest guest]

My symptoms were/are very similar.. the aches and pains also were noticably

reduced with NAC (first) then cholestyramine then getting out of there.. the

elbows were the last to get better...(my left arm is a different story,

though, it still hurts and still is weak..though..I end up avoiding using it

much..)

[Guest guest]

Those are fibro points...have you been tested for fibro?

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 ssr3351@... wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:17:12 EDT

> From: ssr3351@...

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] Is 'Arthritis' for some a mold-driven illness?

>

>

>

>

> I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows, knees, shoulders and hips.

> My hands

> ached so badly that I could hold a pen, the steering wheel or open a door!

> When I

> laid on my back I couldn't even rest my elbows on the mattress because they

> hurt so

> much. Since leaving and being on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol those aches and

> pains are

> pretty much gone with an occasional flare up in my elbows after an exposure.

>

> Sue

>

>

>

>

> This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches

> and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out

> of the moldy apartment.

>

> They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom,

> stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go

> on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I

> could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in

> pain..

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches

> and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out

> of the moldy apartment.

>

> They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom,

> stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go

> on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I

> could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in

> pain..

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Three years later I still have joint pain. Worsens if I get around mold or on

rainy days like today

[Guest guest]

Pain in the joins is allways one of my first symptoms-I know I am in

a good space when the swelling pain goes away

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

wrote:

>

> My symptoms were/are very similar.. the aches and pains also were

noticably

> reduced with NAC (first) then cholestyramine then getting out of

there.. the

> elbows were the last to get better...(my left arm is a different

story,

> though, it still hurts and still is weak..though..I end up

avoiding using it

> much..)

>

>

>