Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 -sounds a lot like what i went through, but my faily doctor was constantly telling me it was caused from my back injury at work even though i was telling him it wasn't. and now after being out of the mold its proven so, that I was right. of corse it plays a part in degenerative desease and arthritis. I will post a link you will find very interesting.-- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: > > This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches > and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out > of the moldy apartment. > > They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, > stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go > on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I > could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in > pain.. > > Advil, Aleve, Tylenol, aspirin, none would help appreciably. I thought that > I was getting arthritis... I would make doctors appointments but by the time > the appointment rolled around, the bout would usually be much improved.. > only to come back again unexpectedly again later.. When we realized the > mold was connected to my other health problems I also realized that this > joint pain came and went with the mold.. It was so painful that I can't > imagine anyone enduring this for years without suffering permanent joint or > nerve damage.. > > Would doctors end up calling this arthritis, if the person was older? > > So, my question is does anyone think that toxic mold exposure drives some > people's getting arthritis? And eventually, needing hip replacements- etc. > > (But that they don't know it, say if the mold is hidden inside of walls and > doesn't smell much.. or even if it does..) > > Those hip replacements are a huge moneymaker for the medical industry..BTW.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 <http://www.psc-literature.org/arthritis.htm> -- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: > > This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches > and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out > of the moldy apartment. > > They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, > stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go > on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I > could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in > pain.. > > Advil, Aleve, Tylenol, aspirin, none would help appreciably. I thought that > I was getting arthritis... I would make doctors appointments but by the time > the appointment rolled around, the bout would usually be much improved.. > only to come back again unexpectedly again later.. When we realized the > mold was connected to my other health problems I also realized that this > joint pain came and went with the mold.. It was so painful that I can't > imagine anyone enduring this for years without suffering permanent joint or > nerve damage.. > > Would doctors end up calling this arthritis, if the person was older? > > So, my question is does anyone think that toxic mold exposure drives some > people's getting arthritis? And eventually, needing hip replacements- etc. > > (But that they don't know it, say if the mold is hidden inside of walls and > doesn't smell much.. or even if it does..) > > Those hip replacements are a huge moneymaker for the medical industry..BTW.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows, knees, shoulders and hips. My hands ached so badly that I could hold a pen, the steering wheel or open a door! When I laid on my back I couldn't even rest my elbows on the mattress because they hurt so much. Since leaving and being on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol those aches and pains are pretty much gone with an occasional flare up in my elbows after an exposure. Sue This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out of the moldy apartment. They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in pain.. This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out of the moldy apartment. They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in pain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I started getting fibromyagic like pain but I was on the mold trail already and I think going on the sugar free diet and putting in my fresh air intake and getting a better filter, etc, etc reversed that since the pain stopped and didn't come back. I also had seen Dr Shoe and taken CSM but very little of it due to intolerance but who knows maybe the little bit helped me since when I went there I was still having the pain and sometime after that pain gone. I was getting shooting pains down my leg recently but that was definately nerve pain and I haven't had that since I moved out of moldy house. It is the only difference I can tell so far. Otherwise don't feel any better. I don't know if pain is gone for good or just temporarily gone but it's enough to want to limit exposure to home. I finally finished a whole can of CSM but it took me about a year and a month. --- ssr3351@... wrote: > I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows, > knees, shoulders and hips. > My hands > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 My symptoms were/are very similar.. the aches and pains also were noticably reduced with NAC (first) then cholestyramine then getting out of there.. the elbows were the last to get better...(my left arm is a different story, though, it still hurts and still is weak..though..I end up avoiding using it much..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Those are fibro points...have you been tested for fibro? On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 ssr3351@... wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:17:12 EDT > From: ssr3351@... > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Is 'Arthritis' for some a mold-driven illness? > > > > > I had similar pains mostly in my hands, elbows, knees, shoulders and hips. > My hands > ached so badly that I could hold a pen, the steering wheel or open a door! > When I > laid on my back I couldn't even rest my elbows on the mattress because they > hurt so > much. Since leaving and being on Dr. Shoemaker's protocol those aches and > pains are > pretty much gone with an occasional flare up in my elbows after an exposure. > > Sue > > > > > This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches > and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out > of the moldy apartment. > > They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, > stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go > on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I > could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in > pain.. > > > > > > > > > > This thought came up for me yesterday because I used to get INCREDIBLE aches > and pains, especially in my lower back that have gone away since I moved out > of the moldy apartment. > > They were so very bad that often I could not walk and had to use a broom, > stick, anything just to support myself to go to the bathroom.. This would go > on for days, sometimes and I would not be able to go to work. Sometimes I > could sit in a chair but more often I would just have to lie in bed, in > pain.. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Three years later I still have joint pain. Worsens if I get around mold or on rainy days like today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Pain in the joins is allways one of my first symptoms-I know I am in a good space when the swelling pain goes away --- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: > > My symptoms were/are very similar.. the aches and pains also were noticably > reduced with NAC (first) then cholestyramine then getting out of there.. the > elbows were the last to get better...(my left arm is a different story, > though, it still hurts and still is weak..though..I end up avoiding using it > much..) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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