Re: Question re: autism v. ADHD code in regards to the school district

[Guest guest]

,

ADHD is considered a co-morbid or coexisting condition found with Autism.

With AU the autism supplement and additional services available with that

eligibility must be addressed/considered. While an ADHD eligibility does

not have to have those areas addressed as are in the AU supplement, it does

not preclude the parents and school from addressing them. I attended a

conference and the WABSA attorney even stated to the school folks that " of

course you consider all the areas of the AU supplement for all children " .

You have to address the " individual and unique needs of the child " .

Eligibility should not determine set services available or placement. This

is supported by the regulations.

Typically you will have to pull teeth for in-home/parent training without an

AU, though it is not always the case. We had both and they never would give

the AU to our son. And many children with other eligibilities are provided

with all the considerations addressed on the supplement. It really just

comes down to the folks/district that you are dealing with. And this is not

to contradict Phil - it is rare that you could get this without AU though

not impossible. You just have to push.

If AU is a diagnosis, I would push for AU as primary and OHI (ADHD) as

secondary eligibility. And if there are other areas of eligibility - you

can have a tertiary one as well.

Amy

Fighting the fight for all our children's rights...

_____

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:39 AM

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Subject: Question re: autism v. ADHD code in regards

to the school district

I posted this a few days ago and was asking about the ADHD v. autism

diagnosis at the end of it. I was wondering if someone with some

insight into this could explain to me the difference between an AU

code and an ADHD diagnosis from the school's point of view. I thought

you couldn't qualify for many of the services available with an ADHD

code that you would with the AU code. My advocate Phil said the only

thing you couldn't get was the in-home training & one other thing

(can't remember what though). Is this correct?

[Guest guest]

Key phrase: " individual and unique educational needs of the child " .

>

> ,

>

> ADHD is considered a co-morbid or coexisting condition found with

Autism.

> With AU the autism supplement and additional services available

with that

> eligibility must be addressed/considered. While an ADHD

eligibility does

> not have to have those areas addressed as are in the AU supplement,

it does

> not preclude the parents and school from addressing them. I

attended a

> conference and the WABSA attorney even stated to the school folks

that " of

> course you consider all the areas of the AU supplement for all

children " .

> You have to address the " individual and unique needs of the child " .

>

>

>

> Eligibility should not determine set services available or

placement. This

> is supported by the regulations.

>

>

>

> Typically you will have to pull teeth for in-home/parent training

without an

> AU, though it is not always the case. We had both and they never

would give

> the AU to our son. And many children with other eligibilities are

provided

> with all the considerations addressed on the supplement. It really

just

> comes down to the folks/district that you are dealing with. And

this is not

> to contradict Phil - it is rare that you could get this without AU

though

> not impossible. You just have to push.

>

>

>

> If AU is a diagnosis, I would push for AU as primary and OHI (ADHD)

as

> secondary eligibility. And if there are other areas of

eligibility - you

> can have a tertiary one as well.

>

>

>

> Amy

>

> Fighting the fight for all our children's rights...

>

> _____

>

> From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:39 AM

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Subject: Question re: autism v. ADHD code

in regards

> to the school district

>

>

>

> I posted this a few days ago and was asking about the ADHD v.

autism

> diagnosis at the end of it. I was wondering if someone with some

> insight into this could explain to me the difference between an AU

> code and an ADHD diagnosis from the school's point of view. I

thought

> you couldn't qualify for many of the services available with an

ADHD

> code that you would with the AU code. My advocate Phil said the

only

> thing you couldn't get was the in-home training & one other thing

> (can't remember what though). Is this correct?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Key phrase: " individual and unique educational needs of the child " .

>

> ,

>

> ADHD is considered a co-morbid or coexisting condition found with

Autism.

> With AU the autism supplement and additional services available

with that

> eligibility must be addressed/considered. While an ADHD

eligibility does

> not have to have those areas addressed as are in the AU supplement,

it does

> not preclude the parents and school from addressing them. I

attended a

> conference and the WABSA attorney even stated to the school folks

that " of

> course you consider all the areas of the AU supplement for all

children " .

> You have to address the " individual and unique needs of the child " .

>

>

>

> Eligibility should not determine set services available or

placement. This

> is supported by the regulations.

>

>

>

> Typically you will have to pull teeth for in-home/parent training

without an

> AU, though it is not always the case. We had both and they never

would give

> the AU to our son. And many children with other eligibilities are

provided

> with all the considerations addressed on the supplement. It really

just

> comes down to the folks/district that you are dealing with. And

this is not

> to contradict Phil - it is rare that you could get this without AU

though

> not impossible. You just have to push.

>

>

>

> If AU is a diagnosis, I would push for AU as primary and OHI (ADHD)

as

> secondary eligibility. And if there are other areas of

eligibility - you

> can have a tertiary one as well.

>

>

>

> Amy

>

> Fighting the fight for all our children's rights...

>

> _____

>

> From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of

> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:39 AM

> To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

> Subject: Question re: autism v. ADHD code

in regards

> to the school district

>

>

>

> I posted this a few days ago and was asking about the ADHD v.

autism

> diagnosis at the end of it. I was wondering if someone with some

> insight into this could explain to me the difference between an AU

> code and an ADHD diagnosis from the school's point of view. I

thought

> you couldn't qualify for many of the services available with an

ADHD

> code that you would with the AU code. My advocate Phil said the

only

> thing you couldn't get was the in-home training & one other thing

> (can't remember what though). Is this correct?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anita… I should have clarified that “individual and unique needs of

the child” is an Amy-ism. :-) Anyone who has talked with me or who I have

attended an ARD for knows that is a phrase I use every time the ARD

committee starts compartmentalizing or throwing out the status quo options

for the child. The only time that I will quote the law in any ARD meeting

is when this happens. And I keep a copy of the law on this issue with me.

It helps if you need to offer to show it to the team to get them back on

track.

§ 300.1 Purposes.

The purposes of this part are—

(a) To ensure that all children with disabilities have available to them a

free appropriate public education that emphasizes special education and

related services designed to meet their unique needs and prepare them for

further education, employment, and independent living;

( To ensure that the rights of children with disabilities and their

parents are protected;

© To assist States, localities, educational service agencies, and Federal

agencies to provide for the education of all children with disabilities; and

(d) To assess and ensure the effectiveness of efforts to educate children

with disabilities.

(Authority: 20 U.S.C. 1400(d))

Amy

Fighting the fight for all our children's rights...

_____

From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

[mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] On Behalf Of Anita K

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:53 AM

To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy

Subject: Re: Question re: autism v. ADHD code in

regards to the school district

Key phrase: " individual and unique educational needs of the child " .