Re: A question concerning testing

[Guest guest]

KC

I did at one time and it affected my muscles for months,. Plus my body almost

fried that night. Please tell your friend to be carefull. I did it with a doc

in Boston General who believed NOONE gets sick from mold.

Janet

[Guest guest]

KC, there is testing for molds, etc. that they can do intradermally

through MQ testing. I havent heard anything on injecting fungi into

the muscle. I know it won't help your friend now, but when I go back

to Dr. Santilli on Nov 2 I will ask him about it. Darlene

>

> I am curious if anyone is presently having or has had the testing

> where they inject toxins (fungi) under the skin (like a prick test)

> and also inject it into the muscle. If you had or are having any

> reactions and if so what are they.

>

> The reason for asking is a friend of mine is having them done and we

> were curious if others may have experienced the same thing.

>

> KC

>

[Guest guest]

This person is having these tests done by a doctor that is very

familiar with mycotoxins. They check the histamine level prior to

the injections, then the shot and if there is a reaction to that

particular fungi ie; stachy, aspergillus, etc. then they can

determine to what level this person is reacting. Mild, severe,

etc.If necessary they administer the antihistamine.

We were just wondering if anyone else had these " tests " and if so

what happened with them.

KC

>

> KC, there is testing for molds, etc. that they can do intradermally

> through MQ testing. I havent heard anything on injecting fungi

into

> the muscle. I know it won't help your friend now, but when I go

back

> to Dr. Santilli on Nov 2 I will ask him about it. Darlene

>

> --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@>

wrote:

> >

> > I am curious if anyone is presently having or has had the

testing

> > where they inject toxins (fungi) under the skin (like a prick

test)

> > and also inject it into the muscle. If you had or are having any

> > reactions and if so what are they.

> >

> > The reason for asking is a friend of mine is having them done

and we

> > were curious if others may have experienced the same thing.

> >

> > KC

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi KC,

When my daughter had her first mold tests done under the skin, they tested 3

molds at one time and she promptly had a seizure. So, we had to test one mold

at a time. That's what I would recommend to anyone who has severe

sensitivities. The immunotherapy never worked for her, as it seemed to make her

worse

after a while.

Dr. Rae was working on mycotoxin antigens, but we were never able to try

that.

Jean

[Guest guest]

KC, knowing what I do now I would NEVER let them inject fungi into me!!

Before I got really sick and knew what was wrong with me I took allergy shots.

After I would get one the area would get very red, warm and swollen. They

didn't help any either. After seeing Dr. Shoemaker I went back to my allergist

and told him all about my illness, of course he didn't even seem interested at

all! He said I needed to be retested since it had been 3 yrs. I told him

that was fine but didn't want ANY testing done for molds. I didn't want any of

it put into my system. I haven't had any allergy problems at all since I left

the school not even a sore throat, cough, sneeze, runny nose, itchy eyes,

NOTHING!

My opinion is not to put any mold into your body. It would scare me to death!

Sue

I am curious if anyone is presently having or has had the testing

where they inject toxins (fungi) under the skin (like a prick test)

and also inject it into the muscle. If you had or are having any

reactions and if so what are they.

The reason for asking is a friend of mine is having them done and we

were curious if others may have experienced the same thing.

KC

[Guest guest]

KC, I don't know but I will find out since I have

to call down to Dallas tomorrow and ask some

questions. However I had skin testing of

allergens and they did a panel of mycotoxins on

me, so I would imagine so. They also tested

molds and algaes, etc.

My reactions to allergens injected under the skin

has been very mild in general but the day I had

mycotoxins tested I developed a migraine and I

left testing a half hour early due to headache.

They gave me a shot of histamine and seritonin I

believe before I left to offset the effect of

their testing. That is the only day I didn't

feel well after testing. All other responses

were localized to the skin where test was taken.

My worse skin reaction was to algae, hot, red and

swollen area. I hope this helps some what. I

doubt they inject much but it has an accumulating

effect after they test several I believe. At

Dallas they space them 15 minutes apart or more

so one test doesn't affect the next but there

still is some accumulated effect I think. Were

the tests done in Dallas?

[Guest guest]

" tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

>

> This person is having these tests done by a doctor that is very

> familiar with mycotoxins. They check the histamine level prior to

> the injections, then the shot and if there is a reaction to that

> particular fungi ie; stachy, aspergillus, etc. then they can

> determine to what level this person is reacting. Mild, severe,

> etc.If necessary they administer the antihistamine.

>

> We were just wondering if anyone else had these " tests " and if so

> what happened with them.

>

> KC

Dr Marinkovich warned me that this should be avoided, and is

actually sensitizing people by using these small amounts of toxins,

just like the story of Prince Albert of Monaco's beloved dogs, which

responded to experimental densensitization by beoming even more

reactive - with fatal anaphylactic consequences.

That's why the results from these tests can be unexpected and

dramatic.

/message/19073

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[Guest guest]

No they were not.

>

> KC, I don't know but I will find out since I have

> to call down to Dallas tomorrow and ask some

> questions. However I had skin testing of

> allergens and they did a panel of mycotoxins on

> me, so I would imagine so. They also tested

> molds and algaes, etc.

>

> My reactions to allergens injected under the skin

> has been very mild in general but the day I had

> mycotoxins tested I developed a migraine and I

> left testing a half hour early due to headache.

> They gave me a shot of histamine and seritonin I

> believe before I left to offset the effect of

> their testing. That is the only day I didn't

> feel well after testing. All other responses

> were localized to the skin where test was taken.

> My worse skin reaction was to algae, hot, red and

> swollen area. I hope this helps some what. I

> doubt they inject much but it has an accumulating

> effect after they test several I believe. At

> Dallas they space them 15 minutes apart or more

> so one test doesn't affect the next but there

> still is some accumulated effect I think. Were

> the tests done in Dallas?

>

[Guest guest]

---Why are you getting tested in the first place if you already know

you have problems from mold?

I spoke to an attorney today that said he would like for me to see an

allergist to get tested to see if I`am allerigic to mold. This doesn`t

make any sense to me, I`am 100% disabled and in so much pain that I

can`t take my life and they want to see if I`am allerigic to mold!

Insanity!They also said I would have to pay out of pocket to have a

mycologist come in to prove that mold exists in my new apartment.

Always something. Uhhh.

nne

In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote:

>

> I am curious if anyone is presently having or has had the testing

> where they inject toxins (fungi) under the skin (like a prick test)

> and also inject it into the muscle. If you had or are having any

> reactions and if so what are they.

>

> The reason for asking is a friend of mine is having them done and we

> were curious if others may have experienced the same thing.

>

> KC

>

[Guest guest]

Hi KC,

Allergy shots were the reaosn that I was out on

disability for twelve weeks last year- I would never

try them again-

please tell your friend to be very careful!

[Guest guest]

I think I need to explain a little more. The shots are not allergy

shots, nor are they to desensitize the person. What the doctor is

trying to determine is what fungi the person is reacting to and to

what extent. The whole procedure is done under strick supervision at

all times and any reaction or if there is no reaction is documented.

KC

--- In , Madeska <madeskv@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi KC,

>

> Allergy shots were the reaosn that I was out on

> disability for twelve weeks last year- I would never

> try them again-

> please tell your friend to be very careful!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We had the mold testing done by injecting serum under the skin of the

forearm back in the mid 1990's when little was known about mold illness. (Not

that

many allergists know any better now). I went into anaphylactic shock. My son

broke out in hives and was headed for shock. We were given shots of

deprovera (?) (can't remember exactly - long time ago) and told by the allergist

that

yes, indeed, we were allergic to mold. We then had a year and a half of

desensitization shots along with prednisone (steroids) and were given Epi-pens.

The steroids gave me osteoporosis and ultimately diabetes type 2 (no family

history), chemical sensitivity, compromised immune system and chronic fatigue

syndrome. My son has compromised immune system, IBS and chronic fatigue

syndrome. We continue to deal with the fallout of mold poisoning. Mal Cannon

[Guest guest]

In Dallas, they ask us to write down symptoms after each test if

there are any. I don't understand whole concept of what they are

supposed to do so I am going to call them. Perhaps they are similar

concept. Don't know.

> >

> > Hi KC,

> >

> > Allergy shots were the reaosn that I was out on

> > disability for twelve weeks last year- I would never

> > try them again-

> > please tell your friend to be very careful!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--Do you mind if I ask what sort of reactions you had to allergy shots?

Were you allergic to the allergens or the preservatives in the shots? I am

curious because some doctors have told me shots could make me worse. Thanks,

Jane

Madeska <madeskv@...> wrote: Hi KC,

Allergy shots were the reaosn that I was out on

disability for twelve weeks last year- I would never

try them again-

please tell your friend to be very careful!

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi KC,

I am sorry that I misunderstood. But, this sounds like

the allergy testing that I had prior to the allergy

shots. The doctor skin tested me with mold antigens.

That also made me sick - it should have been a clue

that the shots would not be helpful either but I guess

I was hoping that this time the shots would help.

take care,

[Guest guest]

I'm curious. Is it possible for me to get ahold of the records

from my allergy testing from several years ago, even if I never went ahead with

shots? I can't remember everything

I was allergic to, but I do know the testing itself made me

very ill.

Cathe

[] Re: A question concerning testing

In Dallas, they ask us to write down symptoms after each test if

there are any. I don't understand whole concept of what they are

supposed to do so I am going to call them. Perhaps they are similar

concept. Don't know.

> >

> > Hi KC,

> >

> > Allergy shots were the reaosn that I was out on

> > disability for twelve weeks last year- I would never

> > try them again-

> > please tell your friend to be very careful!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cathe, you have a right to all your test results

that you or your insurance paid for whether you

went ahead with treatment or not. Call and ask

for them. They should keep them for several

years at least.

--- Cathe <cathe616@...> wrote:

> I'm curious. Is it possible for me to get

> ahold of the records

> from my allergy testing from several years ago,

> even if I never went ahead with shots? I can't

> remember everything

> I was allergic to, but I do know the testing

> itself made me

> very ill.

> Cathe

>

[Guest guest]

Not sure your name, but Thank You!! for responding.

I'll try to give them a call this next week.

Cathe

Re: [] Re: A question concerning testing

Cathe, you have a right to all your test results

that you or your insurance paid for whether you

went ahead with treatment or not. Call and ask

for them. They should keep them for several

years at least.

--- Cathe <cathe616@...> wrote:

> I'm curious. Is it possible for me to get

> ahold of the records

> from my allergy testing from several years ago,

> even if I never went ahead with shots? I can't

> remember everything

> I was allergic to, but I do know the testing

> itself made me

> very ill.

> Cathe

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

No problem- each time I have tried allergy shots- I

could not progress on the shots. I get upper

respiratory infections from mold exposure- sinus

infection, bronchitis, even sometimes it turns into

pneumonia. Also meneire's syndrome (dizziness,

tinnitus) This is exactly what would happen after

getting the shots. It also happened after the allergy

testing when the Dr tested for molds. I didn't get

this reaction the two other sessions of allergy

testing which tested for " regular " allergens- animals,

dust, pollens, etc. so I do not think it was the

preservatives. I also always had large localized

reactions at the injection sites.

The disability occurred after my dosage for the shot

was increased and I believe the building that I was in

was having a larger problem due to increased water

intrusion at that time. Too much for my system to

handle- had meneire's syndrome, ataxia, infections-

the infections went away with treatment but the neuro

problems didn't respond to anything until I went for

acupuncture.

take care,