Re: EGG PRICES LEAVE CONSUMERS CLUCKING

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For better or worse our nation is run on credit; in fact, the economy is

leveraged 4 to 1. Over the past several months the economy has been

faced with a credit crunch unlike anything seen since the Great

Depression. To prevent a Great Depression like event from occurring

(well more like Japanese style deflationary bust...nobody likes buying

eggs and milk in the present if they think they will be cheaper

tomorrow) the Fed had to step in and " save " Wall Street. Actually, most

Wall Street financiers have the wealth to absorb the shock to their

lifestyle should they lose their jobs or have their incomes slashed.

However, the credit crunch is indiscriminate, and while it may have

started on Wall Street, the longer in lasts the more it spreads to Main

Street. The labor market has recently begun to sour, so the common man

working 9-5 to buy eggs and milk for his family may soon be in jeopardy

of losing his/her job. And unfortunately, unlike the Wall Street

financiers, the common man does not have the wealth to protect their

lifestyle when they lose their job. The liberal media, of course, makes

it seem as though the Fed's recent actions have been to " save " Wall

Street, but really the Fed is trying to protect Main Street.

Regarding the dollar, it has been " crashing " for six years now, so while

the accelerated pace of interest cuts have added to the dollar's

doldrums, its present weak status is hardly a result " of policies put in

place to save Wall Street. " That said, there should be little doubt

that the Fed's action in the past (2001-2004) have contributed to the

dollar's decline. But before we get so anxious of the dollar's present

weak condition, lets not forget that while it has most definitely

contributed to the inflationary push occurring globally, it is also

benefiting our nation's exporters—including our nation's farmers.

Anyway, I thought I would offer a different perspective.

Cheers! Britton

Gloria Wittlinger wrote:

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> HUM Last week we learned that wheat reserves are at a 50 year low

> while EXPORTS are surging. This week egg production is down while

> EXPORT demands are rising forcing higher prices. The dollar is

> crashing as a result of policies put in place to save insolvent Wall

> Street firms, therefore foreign capitol is desperately needed, hence

> the exports. This cant go on forever. Paper money or food which will

> it be? We all should be hoping and praying for bumper crops this

> year. Don

> http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Food_Water/080324.egg.prices.html

> <http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Food_Water/080324.egg.prices.html>

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the future on

these matters.

Glad it was helpful.

Shelli

Naomi Giuliano wrote:

> Thanks. Can you recommend where I can get more information like this?

>

> Naomi

>

> Shelli wrote:

>

>> For better or worse our nation is run on credit; in fact, the economy is

>> leveraged 4 to 1. Over the past several months the economy has been

>> faced with a credit crunch unlike anything seen since the Great

>> Depression. To prevent a Great Depression like event from occurring

>> (well more like Japanese style deflationary bust...nobody likes buying

>> eggs and milk in the present if they think they will be cheaper

>> tomorrow) the Fed had to step in and " save " Wall Street. Actually, most

>> Wall Street financiers have the wealth to absorb the shock to their

>> lifestyle should they lose their jobs or have their incomes slashed.

>> However, the credit crunch is indiscriminate, and while it may have

>> started on Wall Street, the longer in lasts the more it spreads to Main

>> Street. The labor market has recently begun to sour, so the common man

>> working 9-5 to buy eggs and milk for his family may soon be in jeopardy

>> of losing his/her job. And unfortunately, unlike the Wall Street

>> financiers, the common man does not have the wealth to protect their

>> lifestyle when they lose their job. The liberal media, of course, makes

>> it seem as though the Fed's recent actions have been to " save " Wall

>> Street, but really the Fed is trying to protect Main Street.

>>

>> Regarding the dollar, it has been " crashing " for six years now, so while

>> the accelerated pace of interest cuts have added to the dollar's

>> doldrums, its present weak status is hardly a result " of policies put in

>> place to save Wall Street. " That said, there should be little doubt

>> that the Fed's action in the past (2001-2004) have contributed to the

>> dollar's decline. But before we get so anxious of the dollar's present

>> weak condition, lets not forget that while it has most definitely

>> contributed to the inflationary push occurring globally, it is also

>> benefiting our nation's exporters—including our nation's farmers.

>> Anyway, I thought I would offer a different perspective.

>>

>> Cheers! Britton

>>

>>

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[Guest guest]

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> Hi All,

>

> My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the

future on

> these matters.

>

> Glad it was helpful.

>

> Shelli

> Great post Shelli thanks perhaps DH can comment on my take on

the present crisis.

I saw a part of a speech by Bernnake admitting that the

Federal Reserve caused The Great Depression and made it WORSE. The

Fed. stopped publishing M3 in March 05,M3 is an indicator of

inflation there are those that say real inflation over the last 7

years is really 10 to 15 percent and even 20% this year. The free

fiat paper money policies of Sir Alan Greenspan and the utter greed

of the big Wall Street firms and fractional reserve banksters hiding

all their toxic worthless paper worldwide has now brought us to the

edge of another Great Depression??? And isnt the Fed. ignoring the

inflation they are creating and also moral hazzard? It appears that

the Fed. is the cap stone on the top of this flawed monetary pyramid.

What does this have to do with raw dairy, a lot because if

we consumers cant afford to buy raw dairy where does that leave the

farmers, the monetary is CRISIS is very real.

Don

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the

future on

> these matters.

>

> Glad it was helpful.

>

> Shelli

> Great post Shelli thanks perhaps DH can comment on my take on

the present crisis.

I saw a part of a speech by Bernnake admitting that the

Federal Reserve caused The Great Depression and made it WORSE. The

Fed. stopped publishing M3 in March 05,M3 is an indicator of

inflation there are those that say real inflation over the last 7

years is really 10 to 15 percent and even 20% this year. The free

fiat paper money policies of Sir Alan Greenspan and the utter greed

of the big Wall Street firms and fractional reserve banksters hiding

all their toxic worthless paper worldwide has now brought us to the

edge of another Great Depression??? And isnt the Fed. ignoring the

inflation they are creating and also moral hazzard? It appears that

the Fed. is the cap stone on the top of this flawed monetary pyramid.

What does this have to do with raw dairy, a lot because if

we consumers cant afford to buy raw dairy where does that leave the

farmers, the monetary is CRISIS is very real.

Don

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> > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

> > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

> >

> > Archive search: http://onibasu.com

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, it sure would be very helpful. I need a crash course in Economics 101!

Naomi

Shelli wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the future on

> these matters.

>

> Glad it was helpful.

>

> Shelli

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

From the little bit I've been reading, I realize the jig is up. But

what can/should we do? I'm exploring things like starting another

garden (haven't been very successful before), getting some chickens,

storing food and water, putting up some solar panels and buying a bit

of gold and silver.

If we do go into an extended depression (like some people are

predicting) that lasts for years, I want to be prepared.

Naomi

dewittlinger

wrote:

Great post Shelli thanks perhaps DH can comment on my take on

the present crisis.

I saw a part of a speech by Bernnake admitting that the

Federal Reserve caused The Great Depression and made it WORSE. The

Fed. stopped publishing M3 in March 05,M3 is an indicator of

inflation there are those that say real inflation over the last 7

years is really 10 to 15 percent and even 20% this year. The free

fiat paper money policies of Sir Alan Greenspan and the utter greed

of the big Wall Street firms and fractional reserve banksters hiding

all their toxic worthless paper worldwide has now brought us to the

edge of another Great Depression??? And isnt the Fed. ignoring the

inflation they are creating and also moral hazzard? It appears that

the Fed. is the cap stone on the top of this flawed monetary pyramid.

What does this have to do with raw dairy, a lot because if

we consumers cant afford to buy raw dairy where does that leave the

farmers, the monetary is CRISIS is very real.

Don

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the

future on

> these matters.

>

> Glad it was helpful.

>

> Shelli

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[Guest guest]

From the little bit I've been reading, I realize the jig is up. But

what can/should we do? I'm exploring things like starting another

garden (haven't been very successful before), getting some chickens,

storing food and water, putting up some solar panels and buying a bit

of gold and silver.

If we do go into an extended depression (like some people are

predicting) that lasts for years, I want to be prepared.

Naomi

dewittlinger

wrote:

Great post Shelli thanks perhaps DH can comment on my take on

the present crisis.

I saw a part of a speech by Bernnake admitting that the

Federal Reserve caused The Great Depression and made it WORSE. The

Fed. stopped publishing M3 in March 05,M3 is an indicator of

inflation there are those that say real inflation over the last 7

years is really 10 to 15 percent and even 20% this year. The free

fiat paper money policies of Sir Alan Greenspan and the utter greed

of the big Wall Street firms and fractional reserve banksters hiding

all their toxic worthless paper worldwide has now brought us to the

edge of another Great Depression??? And isnt the Fed. ignoring the

inflation they are creating and also moral hazzard? It appears that

the Fed. is the cap stone on the top of this flawed monetary pyramid.

What does this have to do with raw dairy, a lot because if

we consumers cant afford to buy raw dairy where does that leave the

farmers, the monetary is CRISIS is very real.

Don

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> My husband is an economist, so he will be happy to post in the

future on

> these matters.

>

> Glad it was helpful.

>

> Shelli

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[Guest guest]

Naomi We have been doing some of the same things. One thing I

might add to is support local organic like minded farmers as much as

possible. We have been purchasing most all of our real food from

Mennonite farmers for 3 years and now have a relationship with them

that is as close as any family member could be. I was very soon utterly

stunned by the knowledge they have because they have no cars, no TV and

no computer. One of their greatest sources of knowledge comes from

their well informed customers, they provide their customers pure real

food and their customers in turn provide them knowledge and information

that they may not have otherwise been able to obtain. Thats an

inspiring story and everyone wins. We are really blessed to be a part

of it.

Don

[Guest guest]

Hi Naomi, I live in the San Diego area. I am always looking for a raw milk source. I recently had a possible source but when I called them they were very wary of talking to a stranger on the phone about selling raw milk. I wish we had some kind of "underground" source of information. Maybe a sort of "speak easy"! Now there's a thought! Good luck with your search Barb KNaomi Giuliano wrote: I'd love to do that, but I live in southern

California (San Diego), and we have very few small farms. There are individuals here and there who raise their own livestock, but they don't exactly advertise it. The best raw goat's milk I've ever had was from someone who retired three years ago, and I haven't found anyone else with high-quality milk. I'm grateful that I can get Organic Pastures at the store, but it sure would be nice to find someone local.Naomidewittlinger wrote:>> Naomi We have been doing some of the same things. One thing I> might add to is support local organic like minded farmers as much as> possible. We have been purchasing most all of our real food from> Mennonite farmers for 3 years and now have a relationship with them> that is as close as any family member could be. I was very soon utterly> stunned by the knowledge they have because they have no cars, no TV and> no computer. One of their greatest

sources of knowledge comes from> their well informed customers, they provide their customers pure real> food and their customers in turn provide them knowledge and information> that they may not have otherwise been able to obtain. Thats an> inspiring story and everyone wins. We are really blessed to be a part> of it.> Don>> __.>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Naomi, I live in the San Diego area. I am always looking for a raw milk source. I recently had a possible source but when I called them they were very wary of talking to a stranger on the phone about selling raw milk. I wish we had some kind of "underground" source of information. Maybe a sort of "speak easy"! Now there's a thought! Good luck with your search Barb KNaomi Giuliano wrote: I'd love to do that, but I live in southern

California (San Diego), and we have very few small farms. There are individuals here and there who raise their own livestock, but they don't exactly advertise it. The best raw goat's milk I've ever had was from someone who retired three years ago, and I haven't found anyone else with high-quality milk. I'm grateful that I can get Organic Pastures at the store, but it sure would be nice to find someone local.Naomidewittlinger wrote:>> Naomi We have been doing some of the same things. One thing I> might add to is support local organic like minded farmers as much as> possible. We have been purchasing most all of our real food from> Mennonite farmers for 3 years and now have a relationship with them> that is as close as any family member could be. I was very soon utterly> stunned by the knowledge they have because they have no cars, no TV and> no computer. One of their greatest

sources of knowledge comes from> their well informed customers, they provide their customers pure real> food and their customers in turn provide them knowledge and information> that they may not have otherwise been able to obtain. Thats an> inspiring story and everyone wins. We are really blessed to be a part> of it.> Don>> __.>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Naomi, I live in the San Diego area. I am always looking for a raw milk source. I recently had a possible source but when I called them they were very wary of talking to a stranger on the phone about selling raw milk. I wish we had some kind of "underground" source of information. Maybe a sort of "speak easy"! Now there's a thought! Good luck with your search Barb KNaomi Giuliano wrote: I'd love to do that, but I live in southern

California (San Diego), and we have very few small farms. There are individuals here and there who raise their own livestock, but they don't exactly advertise it. The best raw goat's milk I've ever had was from someone who retired three years ago, and I haven't found anyone else with high-quality milk. I'm grateful that I can get Organic Pastures at the store, but it sure would be nice to find someone local.Naomidewittlinger wrote:>> Naomi We have been doing some of the same things. One thing I> might add to is support local organic like minded farmers as much as> possible. We have been purchasing most all of our real food from> Mennonite farmers for 3 years and now have a relationship with them> that is as close as any family member could be. I was very soon utterly> stunned by the knowledge they have because they have no cars, no TV and> no computer. One of their greatest

sources of knowledge comes from> their well informed customers, they provide their customers pure real> food and their customers in turn provide them knowledge and information> that they may not have otherwise been able to obtain. Thats an> inspiring story and everyone wins. We are really blessed to be a part> of it.> Don>> __.>

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[Guest guest]

When I ask people about buying their raw milk, I say that it's from my

pet (which is true, I give some to my cat). A local CSA farm offered

good raw goat's milk but will no longer be selling it starting this

spring. I think people are extra-wary because of all the persecution

Mark's been getting.

Feel free to contact me off-list if you find a good source. I'll do the

same if you'd like. Do you know anyone who sells eggs?

Naomi

Barb wrote:

Hi Naomi,

I live in the San Diego area. I am always looking for a raw

milk source. I recently had a possible source but when I called them

they were very wary of talking to a stranger on the phone about selling

raw milk. I wish we had some kind of "underground" source of

information. Maybe a sort of "speak easy"! Now there's a thought!

Good luck with your search

Barb K