Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ive been there and done that- not once but three times- do not take one thing from the home to any new home- even the car will cross contaminate your new home or your sisters and continue to make your wife ill-sell everything at a monstrose moving sale- moldies will not buy used stuff- nothing I have given to my friends has ever harmed them-neither do they feel the burn coming from it- decontaminating clothing is possible- but costly, time consuming- email me privatly if you want to talk on the phone about de- contaminating your things- I spent a year experimenting. The sinus problem is mold-it is in the sinuses- the toxin from mold is non- allergenic-it is a poison you are senstitized to--good luck-I lost all my retirement money also and am now poor-but if you are sick you cannot work - In , " smatterchoo2002 " <smatterchoo2002@...> wrote: > > I just joined this group today. The brief reading I've done of > some posts has told me that I've found a group of concerned, > interested, smart people who have a personal, non-financial stake in > promoting awareness and advancing the cause of " Biotoxin Induced > Illness " , CFS, MCS, and other related syndromes. > > As familiar as I would guess most of you are with the specifics, I > will try to convey the highlights of our story. > > We moved into rental home in '95. Mid-20s, both smokers. > Fiance diagnosed with RA in '96 (just before her 25th bday). > My recently acquired asthma got worse; I chalked it up to my smoking > habit. > > I was a bartender, then had a computer consulting firm with an office > in a 100 year old warehouse. > The wife went to a holistic practitioner who helped her manage her RA > into remission for about a year. > In '98 I began working at an aircraft plant, bought the house I am > currently in, and we were married. Later the next year, the wife's > RA came back, she worked through the pain and recieved her BFA in > sculpture in 2001. > She also conceived and bore our first and only child in 2001. We > both quit smoking when we learned she was pregnant.. > > Fast forward 5 years: > We've had massive water leaks in our unfinished basement due > to 'hydrostatic pressure' (paid an engineer to tell us that) causing > the cinder blocks to shift. (At one point it looked like a naturally > occurring stream flowing from one wall, about 2x2 ft). > We replaced the old iron pipe from the kitchen sink drain (think > garbage disposal) with PVC, but got some of the gunk in the pipe > into the laundry room in the process. > We've patched several holes in our roof over the years, and have > water stains in the ceiling to show for it. > > New naive homeowners, we didn't do a lot of maintenance on the > house. After 7 years, about 1 year ago, we committed to fixing > everything that was wrong with the house. By May of this year, we > had two new basement walls, new siding, and a new roof. (Oh, and a > new mortgage). > > Also, just about 1 year ago, my wife started having some sinus > trouble. We chalked it up to the dust from the first part of the > basement work. > > Throughout the process of rebuilding the foundation, redoing the > entire roof (including decking but not support members), and putting > new solid-core vinyl siding over old cedar shake, my wife's sinus > trouble was low-level but unrelenting, and we thought the fatigue was > accounted for by the RA. > As my career has progressed, I have been fortunate enough to be able > to work almost exclusively from my home; Enabling me to help with the > baby, the house, etc. However, in a recent career move, I became > largely unavailable. > > By June, she was convinced that something else was wrong with her, > and was having an extreme amount of difficulty in finding a doctor > who would pay attention to her concerns. > > Before long, we paid for a 'mold consultant' to come investigate our > home. Early in this process, we were gunshy about paying the > $60/sample for the 8 samples he wanted to take, so he relied solely > on his eyes and experience. All he really wound up telling us was > where the hot-spots were. Not too long after that, we committed our > nest egg to 'remediating our home'. I'm very allergic, so I > suggested she visit an allergist. The scratch tests all came out > with very low allergic reaction to just about everything. So what > was causing the chronic sinusitis? > Her new allergist took her tape-lifts and identified Stachybotris in > a sample from the laundry room. Just recently, Alternaria was > identified in a sample from her sinuses. > This allergist made her aware of Dr. Shoemaker and the " Mold > Warriors " book. > > By now, regular readers in this forum are nodding knowingly. > > Almost $9000 later, my wife cannot re-enter this house. Ever. She > can't be around me after I've been in the house. Right now, I cannot > leave it because of my career. Our family is torn apart. Just today > we are going to be hooking up a webcam at my sister's house where > they are staying so we can see each other. We talk on the phone > every day, but I really miss my family. > > I feel like I'm stuck here living in this house for a number of > reasons, not the least of which is financial. We've committed to > selling the house. I've contacted a handyman to repair the damage > done by the mold-remediators, an estate executor to manage the > disposition of the house after the last time I leave, a real- estate > agent to handle the sale, and a lawyer to advise about potential > legal issues. > > So, here's my plea: > Is there ANY hope of saving/cleaning any items from this house? > Is there any hope of selling this house at a fair-market value? > Are there any protocols known to remove/neutralize biotoxin > from 'stuff'? (I imagine the protocols would vary by type - metal, > textiles, plastics, etc.) > Does anyone else see an ethical concern with selling items from this > house to others? > Is there any financial support anywhere? We're broke, and I don't > see an end to the bills. > > Now, I'm willing to engage in a reasoned discussion of priorities, > but please don't judge. I'm not a material person, but I do lament > the fact that all the work we've put into planning for our future (5 > year, 10 year, retirement) is now all gone. As the sole breadwinner > of my family, with a disabled wife and a 5 year old, I feel a keen > need to make sure that their financial futures are secured. If we > have to follow-through with selling _everything_, plus having to take > a loss on the house, we'll lose at least 10 years from our > retirement. It is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, but not willy- > nilly. > > Thank you for taking the time to read this far. Any help, thoughts, > advice, would be appreciated. Please keep it positive, but do know > that I'm open to constructive criticism. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 cross contamination from the car??? I don't understand. carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: Ive been there and done that- not once but three times- do not take one thing from the home to any new home- even the car will cross contaminate your new home or your sisters and continue to make your wife ill-sell everything at a monstrose moving sale- moldies will not buy used stuff- nothing I have given to my friends has ever harmed them-neither do they feel the burn coming from it- decontaminating clothing is possible- but costly, time consuming- email me privatly if you want to talk on the phone about de- contaminating your things- I spent a year experimenting. The sinus problem is mold-it is in the sinuses- the toxin from mold is non- allergenic-it is a poison you are senstitized to--good luck-I lost all my retirement money also and am now poor-but if you are sick you cannot work - In , " smatterchoo2002 " <smatterchoo2002@...> wrote: > > I just joined this group today. The brief reading I've done of > some posts has told me that I've found a group of concerned, > interested, smart people who have a personal, non-financial stake in > promoting awareness and advancing the cause of " Biotoxin Induced > Illness " , CFS, MCS, and other related syndromes. > > As familiar as I would guess most of you are with the specifics, I > will try to convey the highlights of our story. > > We moved into rental home in '95. Mid-20s, both smokers. > Fiance diagnosed with RA in '96 (just before her 25th bday). > My recently acquired asthma got worse; I chalked it up to my smoking > habit. > > I was a bartender, then had a computer consulting firm with an office > in a 100 year old warehouse. > The wife went to a holistic practitioner who helped her manage her RA > into remission for about a year. > In '98 I began working at an aircraft plant, bought the house I am > currently in, and we were married. Later the next year, the wife's > RA came back, she worked through the pain and recieved her BFA in > sculpture in 2001. > She also conceived and bore our first and only child in 2001. We > both quit smoking when we learned she was pregnant.. > > Fast forward 5 years: > We've had massive water leaks in our unfinished basement due > to 'hydrostatic pressure' (paid an engineer to tell us that) causing > the cinder blocks to shift. (At one point it looked like a naturally > occurring stream flowing from one wall, about 2x2 ft). > We replaced the old iron pipe from the kitchen sink drain (think > garbage disposal) with PVC, but got some of the gunk in the pipe > into the laundry room in the process. > We've patched several holes in our roof over the years, and have > water stains in the ceiling to show for it. > > New naive homeowners, we didn't do a lot of maintenance on the > house. After 7 years, about 1 year ago, we committed to fixing > everything that was wrong with the house. By May of this year, we > had two new basement walls, new siding, and a new roof. (Oh, and a > new mortgage). > > Also, just about 1 year ago, my wife started having some sinus > trouble. We chalked it up to the dust from the first part of the > basement work. > > Throughout the process of rebuilding the foundation, redoing the > entire roof (including decking but not support members), and putting > new solid-core vinyl siding over old cedar shake, my wife's sinus > trouble was low-level but unrelenting, and we thought the fatigue was > accounted for by the RA. > As my career has progressed, I have been fortunate enough to be able > to work almost exclusively from my home; Enabling me to help with the > baby, the house, etc. However, in a recent career move, I became > largely unavailable. > > By June, she was convinced that something else was wrong with her, > and was having an extreme amount of difficulty in finding a doctor > who would pay attention to her concerns. > > Before long, we paid for a 'mold consultant' to come investigate our > home. Early in this process, we were gunshy about paying the > $60/sample for the 8 samples he wanted to take, so he relied solely > on his eyes and experience. All he really wound up telling us was > where the hot-spots were. Not too long after that, we committed our > nest egg to 'remediating our home'. I'm very allergic, so I > suggested she visit an allergist. The scratch tests all came out > with very low allergic reaction to just about everything. So what > was causing the chronic sinusitis? > Her new allergist took her tape-lifts and identified Stachybotris in > a sample from the laundry room. Just recently, Alternaria was > identified in a sample from her sinuses. > This allergist made her aware of Dr. Shoemaker and the " Mold > Warriors " book. > > By now, regular readers in this forum are nodding knowingly. > > Almost $9000 later, my wife cannot re-enter this house. Ever. She > can't be around me after I've been in the house. Right now, I cannot > leave it because of my career. Our family is torn apart. Just today > we are going to be hooking up a webcam at my sister's house where > they are staying so we can see each other. We talk on the phone > every day, but I really miss my family. > > I feel like I'm stuck here living in this house for a number of > reasons, not the least of which is financial. We've committed to > selling the house. I've contacted a handyman to repair the damage > done by the mold-remediators, an estate executor to manage the > disposition of the house after the last time I leave, a real- estate > agent to handle the sale, and a lawyer to advise about potential > legal issues. > > So, here's my plea: > Is there ANY hope of saving/cleaning any items from this house? > Is there any hope of selling this house at a fair-market value? > Are there any protocols known to remove/neutralize biotoxin > from 'stuff'? (I imagine the protocols would vary by type - metal, > textiles, plastics, etc.) > Does anyone else see an ethical concern with selling items from this > house to others? > Is there any financial support anywhere? We're broke, and I don't > see an end to the bills. > > Now, I'm willing to engage in a reasoned discussion of priorities, > but please don't judge. I'm not a material person, but I do lament > the fact that all the work we've put into planning for our future (5 > year, 10 year, retirement) is now all gone. As the sole breadwinner > of my family, with a disabled wife and a 5 year old, I feel a keen > need to make sure that their financial futures are secured. If we > have to follow-through with selling _everything_, plus having to take > a loss on the house, we'll lose at least 10 years from our > retirement. It is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, but not willy- > nilly. > > Thank you for taking the time to read this far. Any help, thoughts, > advice, would be appreciated. Please keep it positive, but do know > that I'm open to constructive criticism. > --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I have heard from a professional here in land to use 40 weight clear peroxide which he says is much better than bleach. It's the type you have to buy at a beauty supply store. I get mine from a Sally's Beauty Supply store. You have to be careful, wear a mask, use gloves and a cotton cloth then rinse very well.If you are in the land area I can recommend two very good inspectors. Sue You can clean non-porous items with (household) ammonia and water.. USE GLOVES.. Others have suggested bleach solution (wash it off afterwards) Oxy-clean and hydrogen peroxide.. (all strong oxidizing agents) Be aware that some things will accumulate a lot more toxicity than others.. I found that electrical wires were the worst.. (they got very dirty and very toxic for me..) wash them with ammonia and use gloves.. rugs and matresses need to go.. so do pillows, etc. Most clothes can be washed with ammonia or bleach.. borax etc. Books can be put into storage and gradually they lose toxicity.. (first, wash the outsides with the ammonia/water combo, then dry quickly) Any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 You can clean non-porous items with (household) ammonia and water.. USE GLOVES.. Others have suggested bleach solution (wash it off afterwards) Oxy-clean and hydrogen peroxide.. (all strong oxidizing agents) Be aware that some things will accumulate a lot more toxicity than others.. I found that electrical wires were the worst.. (they got very dirty and very toxic for me..) wash them with ammonia and use gloves.. rugs and matresses need to go.. so do pillows, etc. Most clothes can be washed with ammonia or bleach.. borax etc. Books can be put into storage and gradually they lose toxicity.. (first, wash the outsides with the ammonia/water combo, then dry quickly) Any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I'm convinced a series of moves is the best way to decontaminate. You wouldn't want to buy a new home only to find you haven't gotten rid of 'it' yet. I think best way is to assume the worse, that you may have to move and clean, and move and clean several times before you lose whatever it is that is bothering you. Safe, clean housing of course. If you have moved and cleaned a number of times and feeling healthy again, perhaps it is time then to buy something again, after indoor air testing and if you can arrange a 'rent to own' would be ideal. > > I just joined this group today. The brief reading I've done of > some posts has told me that I've found a group of concerned, > interested, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 You and your clothes will carry the toxin into the car-the car will quickly absorb the toxin- then even if you shower and have new clothes- you will re-contaminate yourself everytime you get into the car -and carry the toxin into you new house- I am dealing with this right now -and before in VA in the spring I went through 4 cars that kind friends lent me- I said given enough time I could contaminate every car in VA.- a thick pad of newspapers over my lap helped keep the sterring wheel from burning my lap- . > > > > I just joined this group today. The brief reading I've done of > > some posts has told me that I've found a group of concerned, > > interested, smart people who have a personal, non-financial stake > in > > promoting awareness and advancing the cause of " Biotoxin Induced > > Illness " , CFS, MCS, and other related syndromes. > > > > As familiar as I would guess most of you are with the specifics, I > > will try to convey the highlights of our story. > > > > We moved into rental home in '95. Mid-20s, both smokers. > > Fiance diagnosed with RA in '96 (just before her 25th bday). > > My recently acquired asthma got worse; I chalked it up to my > smoking > > habit. > > > > I was a bartender, then had a computer consulting firm with an > office > > in a 100 year old warehouse. > > The wife went to a holistic practitioner who helped her manage her > RA > > into remission for about a year. > > In '98 I began working at an aircraft plant, bought the house I am > > currently in, and we were married. Later the next year, the > wife's > > RA came back, she worked through the pain and recieved her BFA in > > sculpture in 2001. > > She also conceived and bore our first and only child in 2001. We > > both quit smoking when we learned she was pregnant.. > > > > Fast forward 5 years: > > We've had massive water leaks in our unfinished basement due > > to 'hydrostatic pressure' (paid an engineer to tell us that) > causing > > the cinder blocks to shift. (At one point it looked like a > naturally > > occurring stream flowing from one wall, about 2x2 ft). > > We replaced the old iron pipe from the kitchen sink drain (think > > garbage disposal) with PVC, but got some of the gunk in the pipe > > into the laundry room in the process. > > We've patched several holes in our roof over the years, and have > > water stains in the ceiling to show for it. > > > > New naive homeowners, we didn't do a lot of maintenance on the > > house. After 7 years, about 1 year ago, we committed to fixing > > everything that was wrong with the house. By May of this year, we > > had two new basement walls, new siding, and a new roof. (Oh, and > a > > new mortgage). > > > > Also, just about 1 year ago, my wife started having some sinus > > trouble. We chalked it up to the dust from the first part of the > > basement work. > > > > Throughout the process of rebuilding the foundation, redoing the > > entire roof (including decking but not support members), and > putting > > new solid-core vinyl siding over old cedar shake, my wife's sinus > > trouble was low-level but unrelenting, and we thought the fatigue > was > > accounted for by the RA. > > As my career has progressed, I have been fortunate enough to be > able > > to work almost exclusively from my home; Enabling me to help with > the > > baby, the house, etc. However, in a recent career move, I became > > largely unavailable. > > > > By June, she was convinced that something else was wrong with her, > > and was having an extreme amount of difficulty in finding a doctor > > who would pay attention to her concerns. > > > > Before long, we paid for a 'mold consultant' to come investigate > our > > home. Early in this process, we were gunshy about paying the > > $60/sample for the 8 samples he wanted to take, so he relied > solely > > on his eyes and experience. All he really wound up telling us was > > where the hot-spots were. Not too long after that, we committed > our > > nest egg to 'remediating our home'. I'm very allergic, so I > > suggested she visit an allergist. The scratch tests all came out > > with very low allergic reaction to just about everything. So what > > was causing the chronic sinusitis? > > Her new allergist took her tape-lifts and identified Stachybotris > in > > a sample from the laundry room. Just recently, Alternaria was > > identified in a sample from her sinuses. > > This allergist made her aware of Dr. Shoemaker and the " Mold > > Warriors " book. > > > > By now, regular readers in this forum are nodding knowingly. > > > > Almost $9000 later, my wife cannot re-enter this house. Ever. > She > > can't be around me after I've been in the house. Right now, I > cannot > > leave it because of my career. Our family is torn apart. Just > today > > we are going to be hooking up a webcam at my sister's house where > > they are staying so we can see each other. We talk on the phone > > every day, but I really miss my family. > > > > I feel like I'm stuck here living in this house for a number of > > reasons, not the least of which is financial. We've committed to > > selling the house. I've contacted a handyman to repair the damage > > done by the mold-remediators, an estate executor to manage the > > disposition of the house after the last time I leave, a real- > estate > > agent to handle the sale, and a lawyer to advise about potential > > legal issues. > > > > So, here's my plea: > > Is there ANY hope of saving/cleaning any items from this house? > > Is there any hope of selling this house at a fair-market value? > > Are there any protocols known to remove/neutralize biotoxin > > from 'stuff'? (I imagine the protocols would vary by type - metal, > > textiles, plastics, etc.) > > Does anyone else see an ethical concern with selling items from > this > > house to others? > > Is there any financial support anywhere? We're broke, and I don't > > see an end to the bills. > > > > Now, I'm willing to engage in a reasoned discussion of priorities, > > but please don't judge. I'm not a material person, but I do > lament > > the fact that all the work we've put into planning for our future > (5 > > year, 10 year, retirement) is now all gone. As the sole > breadwinner > > of my family, with a disabled wife and a 5 year old, I feel a keen > > need to make sure that their financial futures are secured. If we > > have to follow-through with selling _everything_, plus having to > take > > a loss on the house, we'll lose at least 10 years from our > > retirement. It is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, but not willy- > > nilly. > > > > Thank you for taking the time to read this far. Any help, > thoughts, > > advice, would be appreciated. Please keep it positive, but do > know > > that I'm open to constructive criticism. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 You don't understand--I have wet the interior of my car accidently and it is moldy smelling. I park it far from my house and use car shoes. It has never been in my driveway. carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: You and your clothes will carry the toxin into the car-the car will quickly absorb the toxin- then even if you shower and have new clothes- you will re-contaminate yourself everytime you get into the car -and carry the toxin into you new house- I am dealing with this right now -and before in VA in the spring I went through 4 cars that kind friends lent me- I said given enough time I could contaminate every car in VA.- a thick pad of newspapers over my lap helped keep the sterring wheel from burning my lap- . > > > > I just joined this group today. The brief reading I've done of > > some posts has told me that I've found a group of concerned, > > interested, smart people who have a personal, non-financial stake > in > > promoting awareness and advancing the cause of " Biotoxin Induced > > Illness " , CFS, MCS, and other related syndromes. > > > > As familiar as I would guess most of you are with the specifics, I > > will try to convey the highlights of our story. > > > > We moved into rental home in '95. Mid-20s, both smokers. > > Fiance diagnosed with RA in '96 (just before her 25th bday). > > My recently acquired asthma got worse; I chalked it up to my > smoking > > habit. > > > > I was a bartender, then had a computer consulting firm with an > office > > in a 100 year old warehouse. > > The wife went to a holistic practitioner who helped her manage her > RA > > into remission for about a year. > > In '98 I began working at an aircraft plant, bought the house I am > > currently in, and we were married. Later the next year, the > wife's > > RA came back, she worked through the pain and recieved her BFA in > > sculpture in 2001. > > She also conceived and bore our first and only child in 2001. We > > both quit smoking when we learned she was pregnant.. > > > > Fast forward 5 years: > > We've had massive water leaks in our unfinished basement due > > to 'hydrostatic pressure' (paid an engineer to tell us that) > causing > > the cinder blocks to shift. (At one point it looked like a > naturally > > occurring stream flowing from one wall, about 2x2 ft). > > We replaced the old iron pipe from the kitchen sink drain (think > > garbage disposal) with PVC, but got some of the gunk in the pipe > > into the laundry room in the process. > > We've patched several holes in our roof over the years, and have > > water stains in the ceiling to show for it. > > > > New naive homeowners, we didn't do a lot of maintenance on the > > house. After 7 years, about 1 year ago, we committed to fixing > > everything that was wrong with the house. By May of this year, we > > had two new basement walls, new siding, and a new roof. (Oh, and > a > > new mortgage). > > > > Also, just about 1 year ago, my wife started having some sinus > > trouble. We chalked it up to the dust from the first part of the > > basement work. > > > > Throughout the process of rebuilding the foundation, redoing the > > entire roof (including decking but not support members), and > putting > > new solid-core vinyl siding over old cedar shake, my wife's sinus > > trouble was low-level but unrelenting, and we thought the fatigue > was > > accounted for by the RA. > > As my career has progressed, I have been fortunate enough to be > able > > to work almost exclusively from my home; Enabling me to help with > the > > baby, the house, etc. However, in a recent career move, I became > > largely unavailable. > > > > By June, she was convinced that something else was wrong with her, > > and was having an extreme amount of difficulty in finding a doctor > > who would pay attention to her concerns. > > > > Before long, we paid for a 'mold consultant' to come investigate > our > > home. Early in this process, we were gunshy about paying the > > $60/sample for the 8 samples he wanted to take, so he relied > solely > > on his eyes and experience. All he really wound up telling us was > > where the hot-spots were. Not too long after that, we committed > our > > nest egg to 'remediating our home'. I'm very allergic, so I > > suggested she visit an allergist. The scratch tests all came out > > with very low allergic reaction to just about everything. So what > > was causing the chronic sinusitis? > > Her new allergist took her tape-lifts and identified Stachybotris > in > > a sample from the laundry room. Just recently, Alternaria was > > identified in a sample from her sinuses. > > This allergist made her aware of Dr. Shoemaker and the " Mold > > Warriors " book. > > > > By now, regular readers in this forum are nodding knowingly. > > > > Almost $9000 later, my wife cannot re-enter this house. Ever. > She > > can't be around me after I've been in the house. Right now, I > cannot > > leave it because of my career. Our family is torn apart. Just > today > > we are going to be hooking up a webcam at my sister's house where > > they are staying so we can see each other. We talk on the phone > > every day, but I really miss my family. > > > > I feel like I'm stuck here living in this house for a number of > > reasons, not the least of which is financial. We've committed to > > selling the house. I've contacted a handyman to repair the damage > > done by the mold-remediators, an estate executor to manage the > > disposition of the house after the last time I leave, a real- > estate > > agent to handle the sale, and a lawyer to advise about potential > > legal issues. > > > > So, here's my plea: > > Is there ANY hope of saving/cleaning any items from this house? > > Is there any hope of selling this house at a fair-market value? > > Are there any protocols known to remove/neutralize biotoxin > > from 'stuff'? (I imagine the protocols would vary by type - metal, > > textiles, plastics, etc.) > > Does anyone else see an ethical concern with selling items from > this > > house to others? > > Is there any financial support anywhere? We're broke, and I don't > > see an end to the bills. > > > > Now, I'm willing to engage in a reasoned discussion of priorities, > > but please don't judge. I'm not a material person, but I do > lament > > the fact that all the work we've put into planning for our future > (5 > > year, 10 year, retirement) is now all gone. As the sole > breadwinner > > of my family, with a disabled wife and a 5 year old, I feel a keen > > need to make sure that their financial futures are secured. If we > > have to follow-through with selling _everything_, plus having to > take > > a loss on the house, we'll lose at least 10 years from our > > retirement. It is a sacrifice I'm willing to make, but not willy- > > nilly. > > > > Thank you for taking the time to read this far. Any help, > thoughts, > > advice, would be appreciated. Please keep it positive, but do > know > > that I'm open to constructive criticism. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 > carondeen wrote: >You and your clothes will carry the toxin into the car-the car will quickly absorb the toxin- then even if you shower and have new clothes- you will re-contaminate yourself everytime you get into the car -and carry the toxin into you new house- Yes. Perfect description. Just like CS gas in military biowarfare training. Our contaminated clothing could not enter the barracks or contact any other clothing. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 so in effect yould ruin a good house by merely walking into it with your clothes on? how is one to find a better house then? and I do not have a perfect world. I have a healthy spouse and children. erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: > carondeen wrote: >You and your clothes will carry the toxin into the car-the car will quickly absorb the toxin- then even if you shower and have new clothes- you will re-contaminate yourself everytime you get into the car -and carry the toxin into you new house- Yes. Perfect description. Just like CS gas in military biowarfare training. Our contaminated clothing could not enter the barracks or contact any other clothing. - --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 I am not trying to make things hard for you- the demands of the illness will be there- whether or not you chose to abide by them- you will suffer if you make mistakes- if you wish to talk to me on the phone -I am willing to talk to anyone who wants info on moving and de-contamination protocols. email me privatly with your tel#, and I will call you on the weekend when my min. are free > > so in effect yould ruin a good house by merely walking into it with your clothes on? how is one to find a better house then? and I do not have a perfect world. I have a healthy spouse and children. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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