bad day

[Guest guest]

It's bad enough to feel like you do, it adds another layer when

others are saying you can't possibly feel that bad. Just tell them

that others with this disease and your doctor would say that yes, it

is possible to feel that bad and it sucks.

We're all here for you. I hope you do feel better tomorrow. If

your medication is not controling it enough, it may be time to call

your rheumy and tell him/her what is going on.

Jennie

> Just wanted someone to whine to since I am told i can't hurt as

bad

> as I say(my family) It hurts to move and do things I have taken

> my tylenol 3 but it hasn't touched it I am so sick of being in

> pain and being so tired today is probably one of the worse days

so

> far hope it is better by tomorrow have family reunion have to go

to

> for my husbands family thanks for letting me whine

>

> THanks

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Angie, I'm sorry your having such a bad day. I do think you need to

talk to your doc on changing the pain med.

Sorry that your family's being such a pain, I know what your going

through. I have just quit complaining to them, it don't do any

good. Take care, and your in my prayers, Tawny

> Just wanted someone to whine to since I am told i can't hurt as bad

> as I say(my family) It hurts to move and do things I have taken

> my tylenol 3 but it hasn't touched it I am so sick of being in

> pain and being so tired today is probably one of the worse days so

> far hope it is better by tomorrow have family reunion have to go

to

> for my husbands family thanks for letting me whine

>

> THanks

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Sorry you¹re having a bad day. I hope you¹re able to enjoy tomorrow.

Did that sore throat go away?

a

> Just wanted someone to whine to since I am told i can't hurt as bad

> as I say(my family) It hurts to move and do things I have taken

> my tylenol 3 but it hasn't touched it I am so sick of being in

> pain and being so tired today is probably one of the worse days so

> far hope it is better by tomorrow have family reunion have to go to

> for my husbands family thanks for letting me whine

>

> THanks

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Care for some cheese to go with the whine? Sorry you've had a bad

day--I hope things get better for your reunion tomorrow. It's hard

when the family doesn't understand how much it hurts. I'll say a

special prayer for you!

Judi

[Guest guest]

Hope you feel better today, especially if you " have to " go to the reunion.

Whining here is the best place to do it. Everyone here understands.

Noreen

[ ] bad day

Just wanted someone to whine to since I am told i can't hurt as bad

as I say(my family) It hurts to move and do things I have taken

my tylenol 3 but it hasn't touched it I am so sick of being in

pain and being so tired today is probably one of the worse days so

far hope it is better by tomorrow have family reunion have to go to

for my husbands family thanks for letting me whine

THanks

Angie

[Guest guest]

Vicki, sorry your day was a bad one. We all have those days, so I

know how you feel.

Sorry to hear you have strep throat, that is a bummer! We have

enough to deal with, without a little extra. I also have to be

careful, I seem to get strep throat very easily myself.

It's hard for family to realize we can't do it all like we use to. I

do the same thing, I try to do what I can, and then hurt so bad, and

then just cry. We can only do what we are capable of, and we need to

realize it, which is hard to do. I think that you should ask for

help, if someone is there to help you. You need to let them know,

it's hard for you. You need their help.

You try to take it easy, and let those antibiotics work for you.

Take some extra vitamin C, and try to rest as much as you can. You

need to be waited on for awhile, hugs Tawny

PS:were always here to help, and lend an ear.

--- In , " Vikki Wingfield " <VWAvon@c...>

wrote:

> Well, I totally lost it today. The RA and Fibromyalgia have

really been acting up the past few days - yesterday was a two Vicodin

day - and then this morning I found out I have strep throat AGAIN!

>

> The last time was about three weeks ago and sent me to the ER when

the swelling in my throat made breathing difficult. I didn't realize

that I getting sick this time because I've felt so lousy lately; it

was just more of the same. Now I'm on a different antibiotic and a 5-

day course of steriods to combat the swelling.

>

> What made me lose it? The grandkids (ages 4 & 6 who live with us)

were being their usual demanding selves. Everyone was waiting around

for me to fix them something for dinner. NO ONE was even

acknowledging the fact that I was sick or making any effort to help

me. The final straw came when I was putting the sheets I had washed

this morning back on the bed. I didn't feel up to it, but you've

got to have sheets, you know? My hand slipped and forced my fingers

to bend toward my palm too hard and fast. I just broke down and

cried. A shoulder-heaving, 6-tissue cry. I'm tired of hurting,

I'm tired of being sick, and I'm tired of everyone forgetting that I

can't do everything I want or that they expect.

>

> Now my throat is really starting to hurt. Tomorrow I have to watch

the 4-yr old (who has ADHD) all day and possibly the 6-yr old if they

cancel school. (The weather is starting to get pretty bad here

again.) I don't sleep well these days and I'm not looking forward to

how I'm going to feel tomorrow. I guess you could say I'm

depressed!!!

>

> Anyway, I think I've whined long enough. I tried to explain to my

husband how I was feeling, but there was really nothing he could do.

How can he REALLY know what it's like dealing with the pain and

fatigue EVERY DAY? How can he understand the frustration of not

being able to do simple things like open a bottle or put sheets on

the bed without injuring yourself?

>

> Maybe I'll feel better after I get some rest. I just hope these

antibiotics do the trick and do it quickly.

>

> Thanks for being my shoulder to cry on. I just had to get this

out. I'll be OK as soon as I quit crying. " This too shall pass... "

>

> Vikki

>

>

[Guest guest]

(((((((((((VIKKI)))))))))))))))) I totally understand ...one hint .. you might

want to tell them that heard somewhere that people who fix dinner who have strep

throat can cause food poisoning.. HEHE.. Ok I am trying to be funny... I have

been having alot of those 6 tissue cries lately too... Bitch and whine all you

want..this is the place to do it.

I hope you get better soon

Faith

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/20/2005 11:54:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Subject: Bad Day

Vikki:

So sorry to hear about your day -- it sounds awful! Today can only be

better! (let's hope and pray!)

It's so hard for us to ask for what we need, especially help. I try to

remember that the better care I take of myself, the more I have to give to

others.

Hope this helps, if only a little! Anything is an improvement! :-)

Love and Prayers,

Beth

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

[Guest guest]

Vikki, I hope today will be much better and that school isn't called off.

You've got to tell your husband and son that you are not feeling well enough

to do all of the things they want you to do for them and that you need more

help. Taking care of two young children is very hard work even for the

able-bodied.

Grown men can make dinner (or go out and get it) and put sheets on the bed.

Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches will keep people alive for a very long

time, LOL. Scrambled eggs and toast will also prevent starvation. Even the

six-year-old can learn how to make simple meals.

Good luck and let us know how you are doing.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] Bad Day

>

> Well, I totally lost it today. The RA and Fibromyalgia have really been

> acting up the past few days - yesterday was a two Vicodin day - and then

> this morning I found out I have strep throat AGAIN!

>

> The last time was about three weeks ago and sent me to the ER when the

> swelling in my throat made breathing difficult. I didn't realize that I

> getting sick this time because I've felt so lousy lately; it was just more

> of the same. Now I'm on a different antibiotic and a 5-day course of

> steriods to combat the swelling.

>

> What made me lose it? The grandkids (ages 4 & 6 who live with us) were

> being their usual demanding selves. Everyone was waiting around for me to

> fix them something for dinner. NO ONE was even acknowledging the fact

> that I was sick or making any effort to help me. The final straw came

> when I was putting the sheets I had washed this morning back on the bed.

> I didn't feel up to it, but you've got to have sheets, you know? My hand

> slipped and forced my fingers to bend toward my palm too hard and fast. I

> just broke down and cried. A shoulder-heaving, 6-tissue cry. I'm tired

> of hurting, I'm tired of being sick, and I'm tired of everyone forgetting

> that I can't do everything I want or that they expect.

>

> Now my throat is really starting to hurt. Tomorrow I have to watch the

> 4-yr old (who has ADHD) all day and possibly the 6-yr old if they cancel

> school. (The weather is starting to get pretty bad here again.) I don't

> sleep well these days and I'm not looking forward to how I'm going to feel

> tomorrow. I guess you could say I'm depressed!!!

>

> Anyway, I think I've whined long enough. I tried to explain to my husband

> how I was feeling, but there was really nothing he could do. How can he

> REALLY know what it's like dealing with the pain and fatigue EVERY DAY?

> How can he understand the frustration of not being able to do simple

> things like open a bottle or put sheets on the bed without injuring

> yourself?

>

> Maybe I'll feel better after I get some rest. I just hope these

> antibiotics do the trick and do it quickly.

>

> Thanks for being my shoulder to cry on. I just had to get this out. I'll

> be OK as soon as I quit crying. " This too shall pass... "

>

> Vikki

[Guest guest]

All of us have bad days, but in the end they seem to dissolve over time. Let

me tell you of my bad day. It started earlier this month when I went to the

ER because of a very high fever, 104+, and was admitted on Wed the 5th. I

stayed until that Sunday evening, having signed on for a clinical program

testing a new pneumonia drug, Tigecycline. This last Wednesday, I had to go

to the hospital for a follow-up and get x-rays for my back problem. I had

been building a platform to carry my scooter on, and a receiver hitch for my

62 Ford Galaxie.

I got to the hospital with no problems, easily unloaded the scooter, and

went inside to see doctors and do a blood lab and more x-rays. Everything

went ok except that my doc didn't look at the x-rays and pronounced me well

even though my back is pretty bad. Fortunately, I had looked at all the

x-rays and decided for myself that it's just something to be careful with.

I didn't hear what I expected, but went along with all of it. I went back

out to the car and loaded the scooter easily. My design was working well and

didn't cost $1000 or more. The car started and I drove almost to the highway

when the car suddenly stopped. I pulled it out of traffic and to the side of

the road. Keep in mind, this is a 42 year old car. The security guards came,

put out cones and started playing 20 questions. They tried to run my drivers

license, but it wouldn't work, so there were more questions and even had me

try to start the car so they were sure I was telling the truth. They finally

left me alone to wait for our friend to come with a trailer to carry the car

home. When he got there about an hour later, I looked at the trailer and

told him the car wouldn't fit, that he should have brought mine since it's

bigger. He swore it would fit and started winching it onto the trailer. When

both doors were rubbing the sides, he decided it wouldn't fit. So, it's

getting late and the sun had gone down, so I convinced him to pull the car

to the parking lot for the night. Then when he brought me home, I left the

MTX I had in the floor of his truck. We left it overnight and brought it

home yesterday. The timing chain had jumped a couple of teeth, so it'll

need some TLC. Now I have the task of finding parts for the old car. It'll

be running by the next trip to the hospital, I hope.

The moral of the story is that you can be having a bad day, but in my case,

I always find someone that has it worse. Now I'm smiling because my bad

string of luck has run it's course (I hope) *<}

Dennis

Bad Day

>

>

> Vikki:

>

> So sorry to hear about your day -- it sounds awful! Today can only be

> better! (let's hope and pray!)

>

> It's so hard for us to ask for what we need, especially help. I try to

> remember that the better care I take of myself, the more I have to give to

> others.

>

> Hope this helps, if only a little! Anything is an improvement! :-)

>

>

> Love and Prayers,

> Beth

> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

[Guest guest]

oh, vikki.... i am so sad to hear of your bad day... and STREPP... yuck, i get

so sick with that... sure hope you are feling better now... my thoughts are

with you....

rae

[ ] Bad Day

Well, I totally lost it today. The RA and Fibromyalgia have really been

acting up the past few days - yesterday was a two Vicodin day - and then this

morning I found out I have strep throat AGAIN!

The last time was about three weeks ago and sent me to the ER when the

swelling in my throat made breathing difficult. I didn't realize that I getting

sick this time because I've felt so lousy lately; it was just more of the same.

Now I'm on a different antibiotic and a 5-day course of steriods to combat the

swelling.

What made me lose it? The grandkids (ages 4 & 6 who live with us) were being

their usual demanding selves. Everyone was waiting around for me to fix them

something for dinner. NO ONE was even acknowledging the fact that I was sick

or making any effort to help me. The final straw came when I was putting the

sheets I had washed this morning back on the bed. I didn't feel up to it, but

you've got to have sheets, you know? My hand slipped and forced my fingers to

bend toward my palm too hard and fast. I just broke down and cried. A

shoulder-heaving, 6-tissue cry. I'm tired of hurting, I'm tired of being sick,

and I'm tired of everyone forgetting that I can't do everything I want or that

they expect.

Now my throat is really starting to hurt. Tomorrow I have to watch the 4-yr

old (who has ADHD) all day and possibly the 6-yr old if they cancel school.

(The weather is starting to get pretty bad here again.) I don't sleep well

these days and I'm not looking forward to how I'm going to feel tomorrow. I

guess you could say I'm depressed!!!

Anyway, I think I've whined long enough. I tried to explain to my husband how

I was feeling, but there was really nothing he could do. How can he REALLY know

what it's like dealing with the pain and fatigue EVERY DAY? How can he

understand the frustration of not being able to do simple things like open a

bottle or put sheets on the bed without injuring yourself?

Maybe I'll feel better after I get some rest. I just hope these antibiotics

do the trick and do it quickly.

Thanks for being my shoulder to cry on. I just had to get this out. I'll be

OK as soon as I quit crying. " This too shall pass... "

Vikki

[Guest guest]

Dear Vikki: I am so sorry you are feeling so bad. Sore throats are

terrible. I hope you call your Doctor and see if he can suggest anything else.

Maybe

a different pain med or something.

Feel better soon.

Sincerely, Colletti

Anjillah@...

[Guest guest]

i used my computer chair to get around and do alot of chores

kathy in il

[Guest guest]

From time to time, I've had problems with my foot where it was once broken and I

found wrapping it helped. I've used both elastic bandages and wide tape and the

tape seems to do better. I also know with my pain, nothing works but Advil for

me. Have you tried different OTC pain relievers? Doctors tend to recommend one

brand for their own reasons. Tylenol has never relieved pain for me ... neither

has Aleve (and my doctor looked at me like I was crazy when I told her that!).

When my foot was broken and I didn't want to use the crutches, I put my knee on

a stool and moved around that way. Looked funny but kept my foot from being

used!

Hugs

Pattie

along302003 <along3@...> wrote:

I am having a very bad day need to clean house but everytime I move

my foot is throbbing real bad Have taken pain killers and nothing

is helping. Really wish I knew what is going on with my foot

Hopefully monday they will call me and schedule the bone scan does

anyone have any secrets that can help with foot pain all the doctor

told me is stay off it as much as possible and take tylenol as

needed I appreciate all the help I get form you guys I guess I

better limb my way to the washing machine and get some work done.

Thanks again

Angie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply I have tried different pain relievers

nothing seems to help the pain I will have to go buy some wide tape

and try that I try to stay off it as much of possible but I work in

the childcare field and am on it a lot during the week Hopefully

I'll know something soon

Thanks

Angie

>

> I am having a very bad day need to clean house but everytime I

move

> my foot is throbbing real bad Have taken pain killers and nothing

> is helping. Really wish I knew what is going on with my foot

> Hopefully monday they will call me and schedule the bone scan does

> anyone have any secrets that can help with foot pain all the

doctor

> told me is stay off it as much as possible and take tylenol as

> needed I appreciate all the help I get form you guys I guess I

> better limb my way to the washing machine and get some work done.

> Thanks again

> Angie

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Sorry your having a bad day. I would put the cleaning off for another

day, it isn't going anywhere. Just try to pamper yourself, and rest

your foot, until you can get to the doctor. You sure don't want to

make it worse.

If you can get in a tub, and soak for awhile that might help, use

some Epasom salt(not sure if that is how it's spelled.) If not, just

soak your foot, that might help some. The Ace bandage is also a

great idea that was mentioned.

Will keep you in prayer, and hopefully you can get into the doc on

Monday, take care Tawny

>

> I am having a very bad day need to clean house but everytime I

move

> my foot is throbbing real bad Have taken pain killers and nothing

> is helping. Really wish I knew what is going on with my foot

> Hopefully monday they will call me and schedule the bone scan does

> anyone have any secrets that can help with foot pain all the

doctor

> told me is stay off it as much as possible and take tylenol as

> needed I appreciate all the help I get form you guys I guess I

> better limb my way to the washing machine and get some work done.

> Thanks again

> Angie

[Guest guest]

Sorry you are having so much trouble with your foot, Angie. Staying off of

it is probably the best thing. Please call the doctor ASAP and tell him that

it is throbbing and that the pain is very bad.

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] bad day

>

>

> I am having a very bad day need to clean house but everytime I move

> my foot is throbbing real bad Have taken pain killers and nothing

> is helping. Really wish I knew what is going on with my foot

> Hopefully monday they will call me and schedule the bone scan does

> anyone have any secrets that can help with foot pain all the doctor

> told me is stay off it as much as possible and take tylenol as

> needed I appreciate all the help I get form you guys I guess I

> better limb my way to the washing machine and get some work done.

> Thanks again

> Angie

>

[Guest guest]

You are being totally typical of survivors. I see-sawed for a couple of

years. Most women I have spoken with have had the same

experience. Gradually the good days outnumber the bad, and then the bad

finally gets less and less.

Lynda

At 11:14 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

>Hello,

>I'm having a really bad day, woke up with all my symptoms at their evil

>worst--vertigo, muscle aches, head and ears throbbing, heart beating like

>I was running from the devil! And I have this awful free-floating

>anxiety--maybe it's just my body reacting to the fact that there's

>something alien in its midst.

>

>Sometimes I feel a little better--never good, but at least able to do some

>housework, a little writing, etc. and then I think to myself, " Maybe I'm

>recovering, maybe it's not the implants " and I start to doubt

>everything. I am used to feeling worse after pushing myself--one evening

>I danced for one friggin' song at an outdoor Salsa concert in town, and

>boy did I pay for it the next day! But yesterday I was very low-key and

>yet today I feel like the loser in a boxing match.

>

>Did anyone else ever experience this see-saw of symptoms? Is this typical?

>

>By the way, there's a good article in this month's Natural Health magazine

>about fibromyalgia, with some tips on treating it.

>

>Sorry to be such a whiner!

>

>Ciao-

>Melinda

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, we all had bad and good days when we had our implants also, sometimes

it was because of additional toxins we were exposed to that made us worse

at times.

Lynda

At 11:32 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

>Thanks for the reply, Lynda--I don't know if I made it clear that I still

>have my implants--gettin' em out on October 11th.

>Melinda

>

> Re: Bad Day

>

>You are being totally typical of survivors. I see-sawed for a couple of

>years. Most women I have spoken with have had the same

>experience. Gradually the good days outnumber the bad, and then the bad

>finally gets less and less.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 11:14 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

> >Hello,

> >I'm having a really bad day, woke up with all my symptoms at their evil

> >worst--vertigo, muscle aches, head and ears throbbing, heart beating like

> >I was running from the devil! And I have this awful free-floating

> >anxiety--maybe it's just my body reacting to the fact that there's

> >something alien in its midst.

> >

> >Sometimes I feel a little better--never good, but at least able to do some

> >housework, a little writing, etc. and then I think to myself, " Maybe I'm

> >recovering, maybe it's not the implants " and I start to doubt

> >everything. I am used to feeling worse after pushing myself--one evening

> >I danced for one friggin' song at an outdoor Salsa concert in town, and

> >boy did I pay for it the next day! But yesterday I was very low-key and

> >yet today I feel like the loser in a boxing match.

> >

> >Did anyone else ever experience this see-saw of symptoms? Is this typical?

> >

> >By the way, there's a good article in this month's Natural Health magazine

> >about fibromyalgia, with some tips on treating it.

> >

> >Sorry to be such a whiner!

> >

> >Ciao-

> >Melinda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Melinda,

I have never had implants but did have fibro for many years. I suffered the

same way with fibro pain. If I was a couch potato and did little, I felt half

way decent, still had the throbbing musucle pain and felt like I had the flu but

I wasn't incapacitated. Any time I exercised at all or even gardened, I'd be in

bed for two weeks. Once your implants are out and you can actively detox, I'm

sure you'll feel much, much better. I completely beat fibro and a host of other

" diseases " with detoxing alone.

Kenda

>

> You are being totally typical of survivors. I see-sawed for a couple of

> years. Most women I have spoken with have had the same

> experience. Gradually the good days outnumber the bad, and then the bad

> finally gets less and less.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 11:14 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

> >Hello,

> >I'm having a really bad day, woke up with all my symptoms at their evil

> >worst--vertigo, muscle aches, head and ears throbbing, heart beating like

> >I was running from the devil! And I have this awful free-floating

> >anxiety--maybe it's just my body reacting to the fact that there's

> >something alien in its midst.

> >

> >Sometimes I feel a little better--never good, but at least able to do some

> >housework, a little writing, etc. and then I think to myself, " Maybe I'm

> >recovering, maybe it's not the implants " and I start to doubt

> >everything. I am used to feeling worse after pushing myself--one evening

> >I danced for one friggin' song at an outdoor Salsa concert in town, and

> >boy did I pay for it the next day! But yesterday I was very low-key and

> >yet today I feel like the loser in a boxing match.

> >

> >Did anyone else ever experience this see-saw of symptoms? Is this typical?

> >

> >By the way, there's a good article in this month's Natural Health magazine

> >about fibromyalgia, with some tips on treating it.

> >

> >Sorry to be such a whiner!

> >

> >Ciao-

> >Melinda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you. It was gradual. I began to feel better and better and one day noticed that I didn’t have bad days any more. A weak or taxed liver can cause all types of problems.

Kenda

Thanks Kenda.

Congrats on beating fibro--That's quite a feat.

Melinda

Re: Bad Day

Hi Melinda,

I have never had implants but did have fibro for many years. I suffered the same way with fibro pain. If I was a couch potato and did little, I felt half way decent, still had the throbbing musucle pain and felt like I had the flu but I wasn't incapacitated. Any time I exercised at all or even gardened, I'd be in bed for two weeks. Once your implants are out and you can actively detox, I'm sure you'll feel much, much better. I completely beat fibro and a host of other " diseases " with detoxing alone.

Kenda

>

> You are being totally typical of survivors. I see-sawed for a couple of

> years. Most women I have spoken with have had the same

> experience. Gradually the good days outnumber the bad, and then the bad

> finally gets less and less.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 11:14 AM 9/12/2005, you wrote:

> >Hello,

> >I'm having a really bad day, woke up with all my symptoms at their evil

> >worst--vertigo, muscle aches, head and ears throbbing, heart beating like

> >I was running from the devil! And I have this awful free-floating

> >anxiety--maybe it's just my body reacting to the fact that there's

> >something alien in its midst.

> >

> >Sometimes I feel a little better--never good, but at least able to do some

> >housework, a little writing, etc. and then I think to myself, " Maybe I'm

> >recovering, maybe it's not the implants " and I start to doubt

> >everything. I am used to feeling worse after pushing myself--one evening

> >I danced for one friggin' song at an outdoor Salsa concert in town, and

> >boy did I pay for it the next day! But yesterday I was very low-key and

> >yet today I feel like the loser in a boxing match.

> >

> >Did anyone else ever experience this see-saw of symptoms? Is this typical?

> >

> >By the way, there's a good article in this month's Natural Health magazine

> >about fibromyalgia, with some tips on treating it.

> >

> >Sorry to be such a whiner!

> >

> >Ciao-

> >Melinda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Melinda,

You might find that keeping a journal, recording what

you eat, drink, do and what supplements you take will

help.

Look for chemical exposures, tobacco smoke exposure,

foods, stressors, quality of sleep etc. If you can

begin to find a pattern, maybe you can avoid the

things that are making you feel worse.

If you're actively detoxing, you can expect to have

some bad days as the toxins start working their way

out. That's something you'll have to learn to deal

with. However, back off the program, then slowly ramp

it up again but more slowly. It takes a lot of time

and patience to get through this!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Dear Melinda,

It looks like you're doing the best you can under the

circumstances . . . Just keep putting one foot in

front of the other for the next month! . . . You're

going to get there. Just don't let it get you down.

We've all been there and know there's a light at the

end of the tunnel!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying to figure out what

triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me.

2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was in the

leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. Bought that new 5.8

house phone. Didn't feel great that night but lived through it. Yesterday

wasnt bad.

When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. (do I just live

through that or are there alternatives?)

so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST used hair

spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. Feel a bit dizzy on way

home, within the hour, feel the full blown flu and feel like this all day.

So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new phones? The

hair spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause my chest and ribs

hurt thinking I had pneumonia. NOT!

I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am still trying

the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can stand up, use the

computer...

I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I need HOPE.

thank you, felice

[Guest guest]

Felice,

I really understand and know what your going through. That is usually what

causes me to sleep alot and get depressed and you won't hear from me for awhile.

I get very reclusive. Honestly I can't see what the phone would have to do with

anything, but sounds like a cool phone though, and I felt lucky to finally get

the crusty ol 2 somthing ghz. LOL I will tell you this. My ex wife and I would

fight badly because i would react from her hairspray or the kids spray smelly

stuff all the time and long after the sent had gone away. ANd not long ago my

mom, dad and I drove back from California from my grandads funeral. I would

literaly throw up and it took quite awhile even after getting out of the car

after the trip to recover from her hairspray and perfume. But hairspray is the

worst for me. I just cannot take it at all and it seems to stay with me the

longest. Not so much the smell but the tase stays and is awfull. It makes the

already metalic tase in my mouth so much worse. i

believe that is probobly most of it. I don't know about leather but as I have

mentioned I have had to completley avoid the plastic aisles in stores because I

react to that smell badley. My dad does not smell it at all but my mom has began

smelling what I am talking about and can now smell the same thing I do as far as

the plastics goes but you may have had a reaction to the leather in the same way

as I do the plastic. That is a good possability, then mixed with the hairspray I

can see that making things feel that much worse. I noticed yesturday in the

doctors office a ladie sat down next to me. She has a good bit of perfume on (at

least for me) and I got up and went outside immediatly but today when I woke up

I was so stuffed up I could not believe it and did not know why but now that I

am explaining this I remembered that and am certain that had to be what it was,

due to process of elimination of anything that has been different than usual.

So based on all that I have said that is what I think happened to you. Between

the two I can understant why you would feel the way you do. Some sprays of

silver hydrosol and soaking my head underwater in a hot bath usually help with

the headache and stufiness for me. Try that and see what happens. Oh, and stay

out of the leather bag department... Ha ha, I know, ya right...

Chris...

felice <anupath14@...> wrote:

the whole day I feel like I have a bad flu and I'm trying to figure

out what triggered it. I'm hoping you guys can help me.

2 days ago I went to the mall, (no mask). Yes it was difficult. Was in the

leather bag dept. too long, tried on shoes blah, blah, blah. Bought that new 5.8

house phone. Didn't feel great that night but lived through it. Yesterday wasnt

bad.

When I use the phone my mouth gets dry and i get a bit headachy. (do I just live

through that or are there alternatives?)

so, this am, i stop at my neighbors while walking my dog. she JUST used hair

spray! i feel it in my throat and leave within 30 secs. Feel a bit dizzy on way

home, within the hour, feel the full blown flu and feel like this all day.

So, what's your concensus?? Was it the mall 2 days ago? The new phones? The hair

spray?? I actually went to my family physician cause my chest and ribs hurt

thinking I had pneumonia. NOT!

I had myself a good cry feeling sorry for myself. Now what? I am still trying

the " positive. " seeing the beautiful flowers, I can stand up, use the

computer...

I need your support adjusting to this quick, strong, illness. I need HOPE. thank

you, felice

Life is a balance of holding on and letting go...

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