Re: Mold analysis challange (cladisporium question)

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Hi medlin,

www.mold-help.com is a great place for that information and I have some

e-books I can send you that have a ton of information for almost every species

if you can't find the information there.

Chris...

Medlin Minnie <medlinminnie@...> wrote:

I totally agree with this statement. Especially after having been already

exposed and ill from the exposure. Carl, I have a question. Do you know anything

about exposure to Cladisporium and its effects?

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: -P.S. buying a home is a long term

project. they have mold illness

already, even if these low amounts are accurate,long term could cause

serious problems. and those counts could be different if you did the

same testing tomarrow. -- In , " Carl E.

Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

>

> Here's a challenge for those of you that are learning about mold

> sampling by using the Home Depot and EHS culture plates and how to

> interpret the data; or observing those that are.

>

> A house for sale had a " professional " conduct mold testing with

spore

> traps (not culture plates) by one of the best labs in the country.

> One sample upstairs, one in the basement and one outside. No

> inspection was conducted and they refused to interpret the results.

I

> was asked by the buyers to interpret the data for them.

>

> The buyer's previous previous house had mold from leaking EIFS

> (synthetic stucco). The engineering firm that was called to

> investigate opened the walls from inside the house without using

> containment, spreading spores throughout the rest of the house and

on

> contents at levels measured greater than 200,000 per cubic meter

(by

> spore trap). I think we'd all agree that is " a lot. "

>

> Both reacted so severely that staying became impossible, so they

> moved out. She recovered but he didn't. His VCS was consistent with

> his lack of recovery. They have since been in two rental houses in

> the 7 months they've been looking for a house to buy. They reacted

to

> the first rental house when they brought contents from the

> contaminated house. Sound familiar?

>

> So here's the question. With what you know from above and with the

> numbers given below, would you recommend they buy or not buy the new

> house?

>

> Genus Main floor Outside Basement

> Basidiospores 80 213 27

> Cladosporium 267 27 320

> Memnoniella* 13 113 0

> Pen/Asp types 160 80 80

> Stachybotrys 13 73 20

> Misc 59 100 128

> TOTALS 593 606 575

>

> *Memnoniella is often associated with Stachybotrys.

>

> Don't be concerned about being " wrong " because, as you know from my

> previous statements, there is no such thing as absolute right and

> wrong. So, and also just for the fun of it, what do you think I

> recommended?

>

> Be brave, this is a learning experience not a contest. Beside, the

> most beneficial learning experiences I've had were when I was wrong.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

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> >

> > Here's a challenge for those of you that are learning about mold

> > sampling by using the Home Depot and EHS culture plates and how to

> > interpret the data; or observing those that are.

> >

> > A house for sale had a " professional " conduct mold testing with

> spore

> > traps (not culture plates) by one of the best labs in the country.

> > One sample upstairs, one in the basement and one outside. No

> > inspection was conducted and they refused to interpret the results.

> I

> > was asked by the buyers to interpret the data for them.

> >

> > The buyer's previous previous house had mold from leaking EIFS

> > (synthetic stucco). The engineering firm that was called to

> > investigate opened the walls from inside the house without using

> > containment, spreading spores throughout the rest of the house and

> on

> > contents at levels measured greater than 200,000 per cubic meter

> (by

> > spore trap). I think we'd all agree that is " a lot. "

> >

> > Both reacted so severely that staying became impossible, so they

> > moved out. She recovered but he didn't. His VCS was consistent with

> > his lack of recovery. They have since been in two rental houses in

> > the 7 months they've been looking for a house to buy. They reacted

> to

> > the first rental house when they brought contents from the

> > contaminated house. Sound familiar?

> >

> > So here's the question. With what you know from above and with the

> > numbers given below, would you recommend they buy or not buy the new

> > house?

> >

> > Genus Main floor Outside Basement

> > Basidiospores 80 213 27

> > Cladosporium 267 27 320

> > Memnoniella* 13 113 0

> > Pen/Asp types 160 80 80

> > Stachybotrys 13 73 20

> > Misc 59 100 128

> > TOTALS 593 606 575

> >

> > *Memnoniella is often associated with Stachybotrys.

> >

> > Don't be concerned about being " wrong " because, as you know from my

> > previous statements, there is no such thing as absolute right and

> > wrong. So, and also just for the fun of it, what do you think I

> > recommended?

> >

> > Be brave, this is a learning experience not a contest. Beside, the

> > most beneficial learning experiences I've had were when I was wrong.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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