Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Dave, I was at a helth expo & they had collodial silver bandages. I don't know the manufacter but I think a web search might find one. Also I remember you have magnets so there is a great resource even for cancer. Lou Lyons has a health/magnet talk show & he gives out advice when you call in: Lyons Magnetics & they also have a Foundation to help http://www.lgstrust.com/ I don't buy my magnets form them b/c they are high but I really have benefited from the info & they donated a small magnet mattres pad, skull cap & lg belt to her. I remember hearing him talk on cancer & that it took ?? days of N-pole energy. I always use grapefruit seed extract, colloidial silver, MSM, H2O2, Echinachea & Golden Seal, LDM100 (parsley family) Tea Tree oil, Castor Oil, Crystal Energy & magnets for infections. Also there is Gold Salve & Black salve from Nature's Sunshine that is great topically fro drawing out & healing & lasts forever. Also green light (chromotherapy) ><> I pray the best for you <>< · ´¨)) -:¦:- . .·´¨¨)) -:- ~Jolene~ Born2BHealed@... ((¸¸.· ..·´-:¦:- Heal me, O Lord, & I shall be healed~Jer 17:14 -:¦:- ((¸¸.´* ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 surgery/infection > > > Hi all, > > I am seeking advice concerning infection protection following > minor surgery. <snip> I was given a prescription for antibiotics which I haven't filled and > don't want to fill. I really don't like antibiotics a LOT. But I am > wondering if my ab prejudice may get me into trouble here? So > I would like to ask the list if I should make an exception and > take the antibiotics, or are there some alternative options I can > follow? Dear Dave, **I honestly don't understand the objection one has to occasionally using an antibiotic. How does that truly harm a person who otherwise seldom is on one? You can always take some acidophilus at the same time. Also, was the suggestion of an antibiotic just to prevent infection at the place of surgery? I myslef had a suspicious looking mole removed from my back last month. Dr. said to use an antibiotic ointment. I didn't even do that, but did apply some vitamin E. Didn't have any problem other than it took a while to heal as the location was right where my bra strap was. The strap kept aggravating the incision. Still it didn't get infected. I know many of the people on the list are adamantly against antibiotics, but still I wonder if it hurts to occasionally use one when needed. The last time I was on an antibiotic was when my appendix ruptured, and believe me I was very grateful for them. But that was 4 or 5 years ago. I haven't been on any since. Sometimes drugs are necessary, and I wouldn't hesitate to be on one if I came down with strep throat or something of that nature. Still I don't recommend one lives on them. And still I can't see how, in your case, it would hurt. If you are truly concerned about it, try just cleaning the incision with some H2O2 and epsom salt. But at the same time, I wouldn't be afraid to use a 10 supply of a good antibiotic. And I'm sure there are others who will disagree with me. The final decision is, ofcourse, yours. > > For those who may be interested, basal cell carcinoma is the type > of skin cancer that is considered to be least serious **I have also had some carcinoma in the bend of my arm from years of sunburning. I would call it sunbathing, but most of the time I just burned. My dad has also had multiple problems with skin cancer on his face and head from years of working out in the field without a hat on. Other than that, he was extremely healthy inspite of years of abusing his body with alcohol and smoking. Go figure! > I preferred a natural solution over the surgery which my doctor had > advised, and heard that ozonated olive oil would take care of it if applied > 3-4 times a day for 3-6 weeks. So I did that for 6 1/2 weeks..... > > Unfortunately I must have made it mad or something by using the olive oil, > because in the space of 2-3 weeks after the last application of oil, the > spot > became very active compared to previously. A third spot appeared near > the first two, the area became more discolored, the skin began flaking, > and there was a small amount of bleeding/oozing. Obviously the olive oil > had not done the trick. > **Ok, here I'm really confussed. So what else is new? Have you ever heard how when a person has cancer and they cut them open, the cancer really spreads then. I've always heard once the air hits it and it gets some oxygen the cancer gets worse. Here you're saying the OOO " made it mad " . Now, I've heard the OOO is great for cancer and everybody here on oxyplus says cancer is from a lack of oxygen. If so, why didn't the OOO do the trick and why does cancer spread when exposed to the air? Questions......questions.....who's got the answerrs? > The question now is, do I take the antibiotics? If no, will I be sorry?? **Personally, I think if you're afraid you might be " sorry " , take the antibiotic. But that's just my opinion. As for myself I wouldn't hesitate, if I were concerned about it. In my case with the mole, I never was concerned. I'd watch it, but there was never any sign of an infection setting in. > > Take care, Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 For skin cancers you might want to use Cansema, works every time. Earn a dime every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1143746 Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page) www.herbs4health.com (herb shop) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. surgery/infection > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 surgery/infection > I was given a prescription for antibiotics which I haven't filled and > don't want to fill. I really don't like antibiotics a LOT. But I am > wondering if my ab prejudice may get me into trouble here? So > I would like to ask the list if I should make an exception and > take the antibiotics, or are there some alternative options I can > follow? > > For those who may be interested, basal cell carcinoma is the type > of skin cancer that is considered to be least serious. Dave, There is a black cream that is supposed to be fantastic for skin cancers. People who apply it as directed say that all their cancer falls off in a very short time. I don't remember the name of it, but here is a number where you can obtain it (as well as other supplements): . Ask for Eugene. Heal well. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Hi Gail, I haven't thrown out the prescription the doctor gave me, but I'm not going to take them unless I have to. But I will if nothing else works! So far, things seem to be ok. Dave ----------------- > Hi all, > > I am seeking advice concerning infection protection following > minor surgery. <snip> I was given a prescription for antibiotics which I haven't filled and > don't want to fill. I really don't like antibiotics a LOT. But I am > wondering if my ab prejudice may get me into trouble here? So > I would like to ask the list if I should make an exception and > take the antibiotics, or are there some alternative options I can > follow? Dear Dave, **I honestly don't understand the objection one has to occasionally using an antibiotic. How does that truly harm a person who otherwise seldom is on one? You can always take some acidophilus at the same time. Also, was the suggestion of an antibiotic just to prevent infection at the place of surgery? I myslef had a suspicious looking mole removed from my back last month. Dr. said to use an antibiotic ointment. I didn't even do that, but did apply some vitamin E. Didn't have any problem other than it took a while to heal as the location was right where my bra strap was. The strap kept aggravating the incision. Still it didn't get infected. I know many of the people on the list are adamantly against antibiotics, but still I wonder if it hurts to occasionally use one when needed. The last time I was on an antibiotic was when my appendix ruptured, and believe me I was very grateful for them. But that was 4 or 5 years ago. I haven't been on any since. Sometimes drugs are necessary, and I wouldn't hesitate to be on one if I came down with strep throat or something of that nature. Still I don't recommend one lives on them. And still I can't see how, in your case, it would hurt. If you are truly concerned about it, try just cleaning the incision with some H2O2 and epsom salt. But at the same time, I wouldn't be afraid to use a 10 supply of a good antibiotic. And I'm sure there are others who will disagree with me. The final decision is, ofcourse, yours. > > For those who may be interested, basal cell carcinoma is the type > of skin cancer that is considered to be least serious **I have also had some carcinoma in the bend of my arm from years of sunburning. I would call it sunbathing, but most of the time I just burned. My dad has also had multiple problems with skin cancer on his face and head from years of working out in the field without a hat on. Other than that, he was extremely healthy inspite of years of abusing his body with alcohol and smoking. Go figure! > I preferred a natural solution over the surgery which my doctor had > advised, and heard that ozonated olive oil would take care of it if applied > 3-4 times a day for 3-6 weeks. So I did that for 6 1/2 weeks..... > > Unfortunately I must have made it mad or something by using the olive oil, > because in the space of 2-3 weeks after the last application of oil, the > spot > became very active compared to previously. A third spot appeared near > the first two, the area became more discolored, the skin began flaking, > and there was a small amount of bleeding/oozing. Obviously the olive oil > had not done the trick. > **Ok, here I'm really confussed. So what else is new? Have you ever heard how when a person has cancer and they cut them open, the cancer really spreads then. I've always heard once the air hits it and it gets some oxygen the cancer gets worse. Here you're saying the OOO " made it mad " . Now, I've heard the OOO is great for cancer and everybody here on oxyplus says cancer is from a lack of oxygen. If so, why didn't the OOO do the trick and why does cancer spread when exposed to the air? Questions......questions.....who's got the answerrs? > The question now is, do I take the antibiotics? If no, will I be sorry?? **Personally, I think if you're afraid you might be " sorry " , take the antibiotic. But that's just my opinion. As for myself I wouldn't hesitate, if I were concerned about it. In my case with the mole, I never was concerned. I'd watch it, but there was never any sign of an infection setting in. > > Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Hi Gail, I haven't thrown out the prescription the doctor gave me, but I'm not going to take them unless I have to. But I will if nothing else works! So far, things seem to be ok. Dave ----------------- > Hi all, > > I am seeking advice concerning infection protection following > minor surgery. <snip> I was given a prescription for antibiotics which I haven't filled and > don't want to fill. I really don't like antibiotics a LOT. But I am > wondering if my ab prejudice may get me into trouble here? So > I would like to ask the list if I should make an exception and > take the antibiotics, or are there some alternative options I can > follow? Dear Dave, **I honestly don't understand the objection one has to occasionally using an antibiotic. How does that truly harm a person who otherwise seldom is on one? You can always take some acidophilus at the same time. Also, was the suggestion of an antibiotic just to prevent infection at the place of surgery? I myslef had a suspicious looking mole removed from my back last month. Dr. said to use an antibiotic ointment. I didn't even do that, but did apply some vitamin E. Didn't have any problem other than it took a while to heal as the location was right where my bra strap was. The strap kept aggravating the incision. Still it didn't get infected. I know many of the people on the list are adamantly against antibiotics, but still I wonder if it hurts to occasionally use one when needed. The last time I was on an antibiotic was when my appendix ruptured, and believe me I was very grateful for them. But that was 4 or 5 years ago. I haven't been on any since. Sometimes drugs are necessary, and I wouldn't hesitate to be on one if I came down with strep throat or something of that nature. Still I don't recommend one lives on them. And still I can't see how, in your case, it would hurt. If you are truly concerned about it, try just cleaning the incision with some H2O2 and epsom salt. But at the same time, I wouldn't be afraid to use a 10 supply of a good antibiotic. And I'm sure there are others who will disagree with me. The final decision is, ofcourse, yours. > > For those who may be interested, basal cell carcinoma is the type > of skin cancer that is considered to be least serious **I have also had some carcinoma in the bend of my arm from years of sunburning. I would call it sunbathing, but most of the time I just burned. My dad has also had multiple problems with skin cancer on his face and head from years of working out in the field without a hat on. Other than that, he was extremely healthy inspite of years of abusing his body with alcohol and smoking. Go figure! > I preferred a natural solution over the surgery which my doctor had > advised, and heard that ozonated olive oil would take care of it if applied > 3-4 times a day for 3-6 weeks. So I did that for 6 1/2 weeks..... > > Unfortunately I must have made it mad or something by using the olive oil, > because in the space of 2-3 weeks after the last application of oil, the > spot > became very active compared to previously. A third spot appeared near > the first two, the area became more discolored, the skin began flaking, > and there was a small amount of bleeding/oozing. Obviously the olive oil > had not done the trick. > **Ok, here I'm really confussed. So what else is new? Have you ever heard how when a person has cancer and they cut them open, the cancer really spreads then. I've always heard once the air hits it and it gets some oxygen the cancer gets worse. Here you're saying the OOO " made it mad " . Now, I've heard the OOO is great for cancer and everybody here on oxyplus says cancer is from a lack of oxygen. If so, why didn't the OOO do the trick and why does cancer spread when exposed to the air? Questions......questions.....who's got the answerrs? > The question now is, do I take the antibiotics? If no, will I be sorry?? **Personally, I think if you're afraid you might be " sorry " , take the antibiotic. But that's just my opinion. As for myself I wouldn't hesitate, if I were concerned about it. In my case with the mole, I never was concerned. I'd watch it, but there was never any sign of an infection setting in. > > Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Hi Gail, I haven't thrown out the prescription the doctor gave me, but I'm not going to take them unless I have to. But I will if nothing else works! So far, things seem to be ok. Dave ----------------- > Hi all, > > I am seeking advice concerning infection protection following > minor surgery. <snip> I was given a prescription for antibiotics which I haven't filled and > don't want to fill. I really don't like antibiotics a LOT. But I am > wondering if my ab prejudice may get me into trouble here? So > I would like to ask the list if I should make an exception and > take the antibiotics, or are there some alternative options I can > follow? Dear Dave, **I honestly don't understand the objection one has to occasionally using an antibiotic. How does that truly harm a person who otherwise seldom is on one? You can always take some acidophilus at the same time. Also, was the suggestion of an antibiotic just to prevent infection at the place of surgery? I myslef had a suspicious looking mole removed from my back last month. Dr. said to use an antibiotic ointment. I didn't even do that, but did apply some vitamin E. Didn't have any problem other than it took a while to heal as the location was right where my bra strap was. The strap kept aggravating the incision. Still it didn't get infected. I know many of the people on the list are adamantly against antibiotics, but still I wonder if it hurts to occasionally use one when needed. The last time I was on an antibiotic was when my appendix ruptured, and believe me I was very grateful for them. But that was 4 or 5 years ago. I haven't been on any since. Sometimes drugs are necessary, and I wouldn't hesitate to be on one if I came down with strep throat or something of that nature. Still I don't recommend one lives on them. And still I can't see how, in your case, it would hurt. If you are truly concerned about it, try just cleaning the incision with some H2O2 and epsom salt. But at the same time, I wouldn't be afraid to use a 10 supply of a good antibiotic. And I'm sure there are others who will disagree with me. The final decision is, ofcourse, yours. > > For those who may be interested, basal cell carcinoma is the type > of skin cancer that is considered to be least serious **I have also had some carcinoma in the bend of my arm from years of sunburning. I would call it sunbathing, but most of the time I just burned. My dad has also had multiple problems with skin cancer on his face and head from years of working out in the field without a hat on. Other than that, he was extremely healthy inspite of years of abusing his body with alcohol and smoking. Go figure! > I preferred a natural solution over the surgery which my doctor had > advised, and heard that ozonated olive oil would take care of it if applied > 3-4 times a day for 3-6 weeks. So I did that for 6 1/2 weeks..... > > Unfortunately I must have made it mad or something by using the olive oil, > because in the space of 2-3 weeks after the last application of oil, the > spot > became very active compared to previously. A third spot appeared near > the first two, the area became more discolored, the skin began flaking, > and there was a small amount of bleeding/oozing. Obviously the olive oil > had not done the trick. > **Ok, here I'm really confussed. So what else is new? Have you ever heard how when a person has cancer and they cut them open, the cancer really spreads then. I've always heard once the air hits it and it gets some oxygen the cancer gets worse. Here you're saying the OOO " made it mad " . Now, I've heard the OOO is great for cancer and everybody here on oxyplus says cancer is from a lack of oxygen. If so, why didn't the OOO do the trick and why does cancer spread when exposed to the air? Questions......questions.....who's got the answerrs? > The question now is, do I take the antibiotics? If no, will I be sorry?? **Personally, I think if you're afraid you might be " sorry " , take the antibiotic. But that's just my opinion. As for myself I wouldn't hesitate, if I were concerned about it. In my case with the mole, I never was concerned. I'd watch it, but there was never any sign of an infection setting in. > > Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 the wife of a friend has melanoma on her leg. the doc is about to give up on her. the melanoma is quite large. is there much pain when you use cansema?. how would you cover a large area? anyone familiar with the Hoxey clinic in mexico? thanks in advance. jim O+, S > For skin cancers you might want to use Cansema, works every time. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 You can use Cansema on large melanomas, I have and here is a picture. Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page) www.herbs4health.com (herb shop) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Re: surgery/infection > > the wife of a friend has melanoma on her leg. the doc is about to > give up on her. the melanoma is quite large. is there much pain when > you use cansema?. how would you cover a large area? anyone familiar > with the Hoxey clinic in mexico? thanks in advance. jim O+, S > > > > > > > > > > For skin cancers you might want to use Cansema, works every time. > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 thank you for the response, however, i can't find the picture you refer to. need some hep. > > > > > > > For skin cancers you might want to use Cansema, works every time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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