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Hi again - I forgot to add in my earlier post that age does help quite a bit.

Annie used to not be able to tolerate all kinds of clothes. I think age has

helped that more than anything, and I think that's only partly due to wanting

to dress " cool " . It has decreased to the point where I forgot to include it

in my post - that says A LOT. The only clothing issue now is not wanting to

wear socks or any shoes that tie (but that may be more OCD - an evenness

issue) or any pajamas at night. Hey, she even WANTS to wear a bra. And this

from a kid who couldn't handle anything around her waist for years!

So hang in there, all of you with six year olds. By eight things

were better. By nine, clothing isn't even an issue. I just say every morning,

" go back up and put on socks " without even looking at her because I know she

will try not to wear any.

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Hi again - I forgot to add in my earlier post that age does help quite a bit.

Annie used to not be able to tolerate all kinds of clothes. I think age has

helped that more than anything, and I think that's only partly due to wanting

to dress " cool " . It has decreased to the point where I forgot to include it

in my post - that says A LOT. The only clothing issue now is not wanting to

wear socks or any shoes that tie (but that may be more OCD - an evenness

issue) or any pajamas at night. Hey, she even WANTS to wear a bra. And this

from a kid who couldn't handle anything around her waist for years!

So hang in there, all of you with six year olds. By eight things

were better. By nine, clothing isn't even an issue. I just say every morning,

" go back up and put on socks " without even looking at her because I know she

will try not to wear any.

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Hi again - I forgot to add in my earlier post that age does help quite a bit.

Annie used to not be able to tolerate all kinds of clothes. I think age has

helped that more than anything, and I think that's only partly due to wanting

to dress " cool " . It has decreased to the point where I forgot to include it

in my post - that says A LOT. The only clothing issue now is not wanting to

wear socks or any shoes that tie (but that may be more OCD - an evenness

issue) or any pajamas at night. Hey, she even WANTS to wear a bra. And this

from a kid who couldn't handle anything around her waist for years!

So hang in there, all of you with six year olds. By eight things

were better. By nine, clothing isn't even an issue. I just say every morning,

" go back up and put on socks " without even looking at her because I know she

will try not to wear any.

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My daughter had very minimal improvement in S.I.D. symptoms with

brushing therapy. Her O.T. says she sees about 50/50 results.

Stephany

Mom to

age 6 with OCD, BP, and ADHD

on zoloft and risperdal

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Hi Judy,

I have tried brushing as well as a variety of proprioceptive and vestibular

work for Carly's SI and have seen absolutely no improvement. These were

prescribed by her OT. The current OT that I am working with says that

perhaps the ingredient of OCD mixed with Carly's SI makes the normally very

effective treatment less effective. Carly's talk doc says that SI is much

more common amongst children with autism. I am back to believing that no one

really knows a darned thing and that maybe twenty years from now there might

be some real answers. In the meanwhile our children are the guinea pigs in

the " practice of medicine " . It saddens me to hear that your son at sixteen

years old is still plagued by tactile defensiveness. I hope to hear that it

improves for him soon. Hang in there!! Robin

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Thanks, Stephany. I will probably try something else, since brushing made

llittle difference to . Dan's SID got worse recently about the time

I saw some of his OCD symptoms return. I hope we don't have to change

medications again--he's been on Celexa for over a year now, with very good

effect.

Judy

Re: S.I. and meds again

My daughter had very minimal improvement in S.I.D. symptoms with

brushing therapy. Her O.T. says she sees about 50/50 results.

Stephany

Mom to

age 6 with OCD, BP, and ADHD

on zoloft and risperdal

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FWIW, we've recently had a success with bribery with my son, Ian (10) and his

SID issues around his socks and shoes. In the last 6 months, he's outgrown his

seamless socks and switched to tie shoes from the Velcro ones he'd worked with

in erp therapy so we were back to mornings in hell. My husband, who usually

stays out of these issues, offered him $20 if he could manage his own shoes and

socks without complaint or assistance for a week. To my amazement, it worked!

We had tried money incentives in the past as part of erp therapy with no luck.

I'm guessing it worked this time because the offer came from Dad. I'm hoping

this success will motivate both of them!

My heartfelt sympathy and best wishes go out to you, I am so familiar with your

battles!

C in TX

S.I. and meds again

Well then, I sure won't spend the time and money on the OT version of

therapy. I'm wondering whether bribery and/or ERP might be effective. I

guess I will try them both.

Judy

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Judy, IMO I think the ERP therapy is probably the best route to go

for tactile stuff. Brushing therapy is probably sort of

an " individual " thing. We tried it for but, lazy me or busy

me didn't follow through at home daily like I should have. I know of

some parents that have got great results with their young kids

though. Our OT said it could be 3 mo. before we noticed it working

but other parents have noticed results sooner. There's also

auditory...aww shoot, can't think of the word, had it on the tip of

my tongue...maybe " integration. " Our OT mentioned this to us also.

I've read up some on it and this too has good results with some

people. But as I said above, if your son's willing, I'd do the ERP

first.

's twin has some tactile problems but not enough to

drive us crazy. Gets the " shivers " from some materials, cuts tags

out (not as much now as before), picky about socks but will wear with

seams (tho I've noticed he's tried to cut some seams where the edge

is sort of sewn up in a sort of bump). Anyway, he has gotten better

over the years (will be 13 in January) or maybe he's just better with

dealing with it. There were some work/garden gloves he really wanted

last summer that gave him the " shivers " but he got them and learned

to wear them; I'd asked him why he picked those out if he couldn't

stand the feel of them and he said he really wanted them.

Let us know how everything goes!

P.S. re the brushing. didn't mind it. wanted to be

brushed sometimes. But older brother Randall had me try him and he

could not stand the feel of it! He acted like it gave HIM the

shivers.

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Hi Robin:

Thanks for the update on Carly. I am sorry to hear her SID is

really interfering in her life and understand your concern about

using medication on your child. I felt the same with our beloved

Steve but now I am so grateful for how medication has literally

saved his life. He too struggles with depression and meds have helped

so much with this and also with helping him feel the determination to

fight back against his other alphabet soup.

Deciding to try medications is not easy but can be a turning point for

many of our kids, even the very young. It can take the edge of their

symptoms so other treatments will be more effective. Good luck to you

and Carly, take care, aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Hi Judy,

>

> I have tried brushing as well as a variety of proprioceptive and

vestibular

> work for Carly's SI and have seen absolutely no improvement. These

were

> prescribed by her OT. The current OT that I am working with says

that

> perhaps the ingredient of OCD mixed with Carly's SI makes the

normally very

> effective treatment less effective. Carly's talk doc says that SI is

much

> more common amongst children with autism. I am back to believing

that no one

> really knows a darned thing and that maybe twenty years from now

there might

> be some real answers. In the meanwhile our children are the guinea

pigs in

> the " practice of medicine " . It saddens me to hear that your son at

sixteen

> years old is still plagued by tactile defensiveness. I hope to hear

that it

> improves for him soon. Hang in there!! Robin

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