Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 > You're either brave or foolhearty ... given what was > said > about pork tapeworms and their affinity for brain > tissue > and connection with epilepsy. I did not see that TV show; but I wish tapeworms were all that you were risking. There are quite a number of different parasites which you are risking by eating raw pork. And it's true that some parasitse have an affinity for brain tissue; I type up medical reports for a living, and have run across this problem from time to time. There is also trichinosis. If you eat beef, you do risk tapeworms. I don't know if they stay strictly in the intestines or not. I'd be interested in reading more about a raw foods diet, but I suspect that we moderns may be better off cooking most of our meat. Pam Maltzman __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 In a message dated 9/19/2001 3:42:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pbmaltzman@... writes: > but I suspect that we moderns may be better off > cooking most of our meat. why do you suspect this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 Correct me but in Biblical times & even much later pigs were not penned & fed but left to forage. A pig did eat anything including any corpse (animal or human) it came across. Bubba --- Erma Seabaugh wrote: > I can't remember where I read this but pork has > parasites that NO amount of > heat can destroy. Also, if you go back to God's > food laws, it tells you > not to eat pork. A pig will eat anything and you > are what you eat. Like > catfish are bottom feeders. You eat catfish, you > eat the trash on the > bottom of the water. > > Erma > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 Those of us who do the Reams testing are taught to recommend the clean meats and not the unclean meats, like Erma mentions. jp Raw Pork I can't remember where I read this but pork has parasites that NO amount of heat can destroy. Also, if you go back to God's food laws, it tells you not to eat pork. A pig will eat anything and you are what you eat. Like catfish are bottom feeders. You eat catfish, you eat the trash on the bottom of the water. Erma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 In a message dated 9/19/2001 6:09:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pbmaltzman@... writes: > Because it substantially lowers the risk of > contracting parasites is there any sourced proof of this or any study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 --- luckower@... wrote: > In a message dated 9/19/2001 3:42:06 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > pbmaltzman@... writes: > > > but I suspect that we moderns may be better off > > cooking most of our meat. > > why do you suspect this? Because it substantially lowers the risk of contracting parasites, especially WRT eating pork. And I say that as a person who does like the taste of raw meat. I read, in the Eadeses' latest _Protein Power_ book, that having parasites did rid the body of excess iron stores, but frankly I don't like the idea of harboring parasites. And while there are many remedies out there for getting rid of intestinal parasites, I don't know if there is any easy way to get rid of the kind of parasites which form cysts in the brain. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 > is there any sourced proof of this or any study? Doesn't cooking your meat kill the parasites it contains? Whether adult, egg, or larval form? At least that's what I recall having read and been told over the years. I know there are things you can take, once you have contracted parasites, in both allopathic medicine and holistic medicine... but everything I have read or been told over the years points to the fact that sufficient heat will kill parasites. If you have some evidence that this is *not* the case, then I would be interested to hear about it. Perhaps this is another one of those things which " we all know to be true " but which isn't. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Re: Raw pork > Doesn't cooking your meat kill the parasites it > contains? Whether adult, egg, or larval form? At > least that's what I recall having read and been told > over the years. > > I know there are things you can take, once you have > contracted parasites, in both allopathic medicine and > holistic medicine... but everything I have read or > been told over the years points to the fact that > sufficient heat will kill parasites. There are pros and cons to eating raw meat vs. cooked meat. Raw meat can and does contain parasites, but also is loaded with valuable enzymes and nutrients. Cooking the meat does kill the parasites, but sometimes it's at too high a heat--and in the cooking many of the valuable nutrients are lost, and the body has to work harder to break down the proteins. Presumably, if the person is eating and assimilating enough nutrients, it will be more difficult for parasites to live in the body. This is not true for everyone, of course; each person is unique. (My personal preference is to eat my beef and lamb very rare; I don't eat pig at all.) It may be that after one gets rid of the worms and strengthens the system, they can introduce rare/raw meat back into their diet. Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* will be released early in 2002. Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 > Presumably, if the person is eating and assimilating > enough nutrients, it > will be more difficult for parasites to live in the > body. This is not true > for everyone, of course; each person is unique. (My > personal preference is > to eat my beef and lamb very rare; I don't eat pig > at all.) I eat beef very rare, sometimes raw. I sometimes eat chicken and turkey rare or raw. As a kid, I sometimes ate bits of raw bacon (presumably smoked). I don't usually get hold of lamb. I eat sushi and sashimi in Japanese restaurants, but at home I cook my fish well. But nowadays I would *never* presume to eat undercooked pork, even though I have heard that the farmers who raise hogs give them antiparasitic medication. > It may be that > after one gets rid of the worms and strengthens the > system, they can > introduce rare/raw meat back into their diet. I tend to have irritable bowel symptoms with large amounts of beef, unless I take fish oil capsules on a regular basis--and sometimes even then. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Something everyone is overlooking... In a healthy body, that is one of the primary functions of the hydrochloric acid secreted by our digestive system - to digest meats, AND KILL PATHOGENS/PARASITES. If your digestive system is compromised, and is not secreting a proper amount of hydrochloric acid, then parasites will 'survive' their stay in the stomach and be free to 'do their thing'... Of course, I wholeheartedly agree with the concept of limiting your raw meat choices (I have yet to embark on this adventure) to only the 'clean' meats. Re: Raw pork There are pros and cons to eating raw meat vs. cooked meat. Raw meat can and does contain parasites, but also is loaded with valuable enzymes and nutrients. Cooking the meat does kill the parasites, but sometimes it's at too high a heat--and in the cooking many of the valuable nutrients are lost, and the body has to work harder to break down the proteins. Presumably, if the person is eating and assimilating enough nutrients, it will be more difficult for parasites to live in the body. This is not true for everyone, of course; each person is unique. (My personal preference is to eat my beef and lamb very rare; I don't eat pig at all.) It may be that after one gets rid of the worms and strengthens the system, they can introduce rare/raw meat back into their diet. Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 The worm is tricinosis [sp]. Good post, Erma. I believe we shouldn't eat pork, either; same class as buzzards, made to clean carrion from the earth. You should see 'em eat maggots. Only recently have we also learned that it is so acid, takes the body days to get over it. Obie. Raw Pork > I can't remember where I read this but pork has parasites that NO amount of > heat can destroy. Also, if you go back to God's food laws, it tells you > not to eat pork. A pig will eat anything and you are what you eat. Like > catfish are bottom feeders. You eat catfish, you eat the trash on the > bottom of the water. > > Erma > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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