Re:Westside and Steroids

[Guest guest]

I actually read an interview where Louie was beating up on bodybuilders because

of their stacking

and use of excessive amounts of steroids. His position was that he had used for

many years (27)

I believe he said without cycling off by using small amounts of injectable

testosterone (Sustanon),

I believe. He was very honest and actually seemed to say more against the use

of steroids (at least

large amounts) than he did for them.

There is a lot of misinformation out there about steroid use. I have never

really associated with

bodybuilders but amongst strength lifters I believe the benefits for strength

are exaggerated usually

by people who do not lift as much and are jealous.

[believe those athletes and lifters who use AAS (steroids) - they really can

make a huge difference

to both strength and hypertrophy. Many athletes will not even gain much muscle

bulk and they

will still increase their strength remarkably on AAS - even by using fairly

small clinical doses

of these drugs (as little as 10-15mg of bol or Winstrol a day for cycles of

a few

weeks). Mel Siff]

I have always been quite proud of looking normal and being able to outlift those

folks on different

performance enhancing drugs. Also it is my experience that steroid use seems to

benefit certain lifts

more than others, probably because of the different leverages that come from the

water weight gain.

Dr. Mel maybe you can explain that one. At any rate guys whom I know who used

usually were big

squatters or benchers. The help to the deadlift seemed to be minimal but that

is just my take.

Anyway, I believe Louie when he says something. I believe he is more honest and

outspoken than

most world class athletes and trainers. And I agree with the post about being

accused of using.

I would regard that as a compliment.

Eddie White

Blue Springs, Mo.

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[Guest guest]

Eddie White writes:

<I actually read an interview where Louie was beating up on bodybuilders

because of their stacking

and use of excessive amounts of steroids. His position was that he had used

for many years (27)

I believe he said without cycling off by using small amounts of injectable

testosterone (Sustanon), I believe.>

** I wonder if we've read differing interviews? The one with Testosterone says

he'd used Equipose for 27 years; however, as I recall that was without

disruption, not cycling. The photo of on his website is certainly

impressive. If your source is other than T-mag, please advise.

Being unimaginative, I'm curious how he's been able to secure veteniary

testosterone

on a constant basis. For a guy in his fifties, he's an interesting role model

for sustaining

power and doing testosterone replacement therapy at one and the same time.

Ken O'Neill

Tucson, Arizona

[Guest guest]

Ken,

I am sure we are talking about the same interview or interviews. It has been a

long time since

I read what he had to say but I am sure he said he had used an injectable

testosterone in small

quantities for 27 years without cycling off. I thought it was Sustenon but

Equipose is probably

right. I also doubt Louie gets his stuff from a veterinarian, since at his age

he is probably able

to get it from a legitimate source.

Louie is what he is. I do not agree with his stance on steroids but I respect

his honesty. I also

respect his innovative thoughts on powerlifting training. I don't think he is

trying to be a role

model. In fact I am quite sure that Louie does not care where you or I agree

with him or not.

I happen to like him, although I probably would not want him to train my kids

at least until

they were adults and are less impressionable. I also think Louie is a freak of

nature kind of

like Dr Mel. I don't think us normal people have bodies that function like

that.

One thing I would say is that I am 52 and I have won a lot of drug free

powerlifting championships

without the use of any drugs. I am healthy and feel good and so I think lifting

drug free is the way

to go. I am in no way thumbing my nose at those who choose another route

however.

Eddie White

Blue Springs, Missouri

[Guest guest]

Hi Eddie:

Grateful thanks for your informative reply. I'm with you about Louie

; paradoxically, I'd add Vince Gironda to the list. Both produce

results and are creatively brilliant in their own way.

Since the posts of a week ago, I've read all the stuff available on

the web. What a refreshing approach. Not saying he's right or wrong since

such ideas have nothing to do with my outlook. His methods sure do have

useful outcomes.

thanks

Ken O'Neill

Tucson, Arizona

Ken,

I am sure we are talking about the same interview or interviews. It has

been a long time since

I read what he had to say but I am sure he said he had used an injectable

testosterone in small

quantities for 27 years without cycling off. I thought it was Sustenon but

Equipose is probably

right. I also doubt Louie gets his stuff from a veterinarian, since at his

age he is probably able

to get it from a legitimate source.

Louie is what he is. I do not agree with his stance on steroids but I

respect his honesty. I also

respect his innovative thoughts on powerlifting training. I don't think he

is trying to be a role

model. In fact I am quite sure that Louie does not care where you or I

agree with him or not.

I happen to like him, although I probably would not want him to train my

kids at least until

they were adults and are less impressionable. I also think Louie is a freak

of nature kind of

like Dr Mel. I don't think us normal people have bodies that function like

that.

One thing I would say is that I am 52 and I have won a lot of drug free

powerlifting championships

without the use of any drugs. I am healthy and feel good and so I think

lifting drug free is the way

to go. I am in no way thumbing my nose at those who choose another route

however.

Eddie White

Blue Springs, Missouri