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i found it on news as well dated march 5th -- AP medical news

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>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:21:53 -0500 (EST)

>

>Subject: Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

>infantile scoliosis treatment

>

> okay -- i think i found the article although it was

> in a san diego paper not chicago area. maybe it got

> syndicated around the country? happy reading . . .

>

>

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/health/20070305-1054-healthbeat-scoliosis.htm\

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>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:06:20 -0000

> >

> >Subject: Staples as tx for

> scoliosis

> >infantile scoliosis treatment

> >

> > So my husband worked in a neighboring town and

> while

> > having lunch he

> > picked up their local newspaper. He found a fairly

> > long article

> > titled " Doctors work to straighten spines while

> they

> > grow. " I tried

> > to find a link on-line for the article and have

> been

> > unable to

> > locate it.

> >

> > Briefly, Dr. D' of Shriners Hospital

> for

> > Children in

> > Philadelphia indicate that staples as an

> alternative

> > to wearing a

> > brace. She indicates this is a " godsend for the

> > children who

> > otherwise would be wearing a brace for 10 years of

> > their life. " She

> > has put staples in children as young as 3 years

> old.

> > She does

> > indicate that treatment depends on the degree of

> the

> > curve. The

> > article discusses growing rod in comparison to

> > bracing and staples.

> > Dr. D' hopes to conduct a study on the

> staples

> > in patients

> > later this year.

> >

> > I found it interesting that casting was not even

> > mentioned as a

> > treatment alternative.

> >

> > Anyone have any thoughts on this treatment as an

> > option?

> >

> > If anyone is interested in this article, I'll be

> > more than happy to

> > mail you a copy.

> >

> > Aekta

> >

> >

>

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Hi ,

<<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

and more perfected and developed, this includes

helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

(among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

good company. I promise.

Carmell

Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16, GERD, and

Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), VEPTR patient

#137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies,

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8 toes (repaired 2/96, 3/96,

1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus,

SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis, etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

Congenital scoliosis support group

http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

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And here I am jumping in too - finally LOL

Shellie, I so agree, wouldn't it be great to sit around together and

have this discussion?? I find it so hard to write exactly what I want

to 'say' in a forum - Well, of course Carmell always does a great

job - Hey Friend!

For those of y'awl (I'm pretending to be North American now can ya

tell?) that don't know - My little girl was braced unsuccessfully for

over 3 years, and casted by Dr D'Astous for over a year too (4 casts

in total) - As so many of you point out, each case is so very

diffrent - What works for one kiddo, just doesn't for another -

Casting worked for Siobhan in the short term - i.e while she was in a

properly made cast, her curves 'disappeared', and within hours of

cutting off the cast, they were back with a vengance! This ofcourse

is because of her Marfan Syndrome (connective tissue disorder).

Siobhan's had her VEPTR's for about 10 months now - Lung function was

never an issue for her, as her major curve is lumbar. As wonderful as

this VEPTR procedure has been, it was no walk in the park! But they

are literally acting as an 'internal brace', and it's all good!

I remember talking to Dr D'Astous a couple of years back, as I was

looking into stapling for Siobhan - I figured it sounded way less

invasive than VEPTR, and both surgeries did/do touch the spine - (not

always the pelvis). If I remember correctly, Dr D explained that it

wouldn't work for Siobhan, her curves were too progressive and she

had too much growing left to do (she was around 5 yrs old at that

time). He also mentioned it was still 'experimental'.

I'm kind of rambling here, Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!

Hugs to all

Jacki

>

> Hi ,

>

> <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

>

> When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> and more perfected and developed, this includes

> helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> good company. I promise.

>

> Carmell

>

>

>

> Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

(released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8 toes

(repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis, etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

>

> Congenital scoliosis support group

> http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

>

>

>

>

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Jumping in here to get your thoughts on our app with the ortho today...I'm

pretty sure this ties in to your discussion. My son is currently wearing a halo

and doing halo traction. We are 5 months in and discussed surgery today. I am

currently getting an appointment with San for May. We're trying to get

in sooner but not sure if I can,. Anyway, our Doc's surgery of choice is using

the growing rods in the same way as the VEPTR on one side however he is quite

convinced that on the other side, he'll need to do one rod down the spine

because of the spine rotation. The Spine rotation is causing his chest to sink

in on his left side. Apparently, rib to pelvis rod, will not correct rotation.

I was under the impression that this doc didn't perform the VEPTR surgery but

today he told me that he in fact does do it. Another point he made is that the

growing rod is much smaller in size then the VEPTR rod. My son has a connective

tissue disorder of some sort, we haven't been able to dx 100%. He is very very

very floppy and his muscles are very weak. He cannot walk or weight bear at all.

This is another factor in our Doctors decision. Thoughts?????

I have heard from all of you in the past and really cherish your info and

recommendations. Just to refresh your memory, my son is and I am

Connie...

Thanks,

Connie

Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

And here I am jumping in too - finally LOL

Shellie, I so agree, wouldn't it be great to sit around together and

have this discussion?? I find it so hard to write exactly what I want

to 'say' in a forum - Well, of course Carmell always does a great

job - Hey Friend!

For those of y'awl (I'm pretending to be North American now can ya

tell?) that don't know - My little girl was braced unsuccessfully for

over 3 years, and casted by Dr D'Astous for over a year too (4 casts

in total) - As so many of you point out, each case is so very

diffrent - What works for one kiddo, just doesn't for another -

Casting worked for Siobhan in the short term - i.e while she was in a

properly made cast, her curves 'disappeared', and within hours of

cutting off the cast, they were back with a vengance! This ofcourse

is because of her Marfan Syndrome (connective tissue disorder).

Siobhan's had her VEPTR's for about 10 months now - Lung function was

never an issue for her, as her major curve is lumbar. As wonderful as

this VEPTR procedure has been, it was no walk in the park! But they

are literally acting as an 'internal brace', and it's all good!

I remember talking to Dr D'Astous a couple of years back, as I was

looking into stapling for Siobhan - I figured it sounded way less

invasive than VEPTR, and both surgeries did/do touch the spine - (not

always the pelvis). If I remember correctly, Dr D explained that it

wouldn't work for Siobhan, her curves were too progressive and she

had too much growing left to do (she was around 5 yrs old at that

time). He also mentioned it was still 'experimental'.

I'm kind of rambling here, Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!

Hugs to all

Jacki

>

> Hi ,

>

> <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

>

> When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> and more perfected and developed, this includes

> helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> good company. I promise.

>

> Carmell

>

>

>

> Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

(released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8 toes

(repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis, etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

>

> Congenital scoliosis support group

> http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

>

>

>

>

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Actually Aekta lives in Wausau WI, but is from Chicago, IL, but it looks

like this was a story that went syndicated.

Betty

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Yes, this is the article we read about the staples.

Aekta

>

> okay -- i think i found the article although it was in a san diego

paper not chicago area. maybe it got syndicated around the

country? happy reading . . .

>

> http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/health/20070305-1054-healthbeat-

scoliosis.html

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:06:20 -0000

> >

> >Subject: Staples as tx for scoliosis

> >infantile scoliosis treatment

> >

> > So my husband worked in a neighboring town and while

> > having lunch he

> > picked up their local newspaper. He found a fairly

> > long article

> > titled " Doctors work to straighten spines while they

> > grow. " I tried

> > to find a link on-line for the article and have been

> > unable to

> > locate it.

> >

> > Briefly, Dr. D' of Shriners Hospital for

> > Children in

> > Philadelphia indicate that staples as an alternative

> > to wearing a

> > brace. She indicates this is a " godsend for the

> > children who

> > otherwise would be wearing a brace for 10 years of

> > their life. " She

> > has put staples in children as young as 3 years old.

> > She does

> > indicate that treatment depends on the degree of the

> > curve. The

> > article discusses growing rod in comparison to

> > bracing and staples.

> > Dr. D' hopes to conduct a study on the staples

> > in patients

> > later this year.

> >

> > I found it interesting that casting was not even

> > mentioned as a

> > treatment alternative.

> >

> > Anyone have any thoughts on this treatment as an

> > option?

> >

> > If anyone is interested in this article, I'll be

> > more than happy to

> > mail you a copy.

> >

> > Aekta

> >

> >

>

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Sorry to have made the staple topic a large discussion, but I was

curious if anyone had more information or experience about the

staples. The route Max has been going with his curve may ultimately

result in surgery. We are atleast buying him time until he is a

little older. I'm not giving up hope on casting. He's in his 4th

cast and we take one step forward and two steps back with the

progression of the curve. I stay postive that casting will

ultimately work and in sense it has, it is buying us time.

I appreciate everyone's support and see Max in the many children in

this group. All we can give to our children is the best. And right

now the best is casting early! I am disappointed many more doctors

are not interested in exploring casting as a treatment method. At

the same time I am grateful for those doctors who are giving our

children a chance without invasive surgery.

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts!

Aekta

>

> Actually Aekta lives in Wausau WI, but is from Chicago, IL, but it

looks

> like this was a story that went syndicated.

>

>

>

> Betty

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aekta,

if you want more information from parents who have gone through this procedure,

i suggest you go on the spinekids and nsf websites. here's a quick link to 2

discussions that i found. 3 parents that are frequent posters are: amandap,

mariaf, and clipcloplady

http://spinekids.com/boards/showthread.php?t=8078

http://spinekids.com/boards/showthread.php?t=6425

hope this helps,

deshea

---- Original message ----

>Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:10:46 -0000

>

>Subject: Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

>infantile scoliosis treatment

>

> Sorry to have made the staple topic a large

> discussion, but I was

> curious if anyone had more information or experience

> about the

> staples. The route Max has been going with his curve

> may ultimately

> result in surgery. We are atleast buying him time

> until he is a

> little older. I'm not giving up hope on casting.

> He's in his 4th

> cast and we take one step forward and two steps back

> with the

> progression of the curve. I stay postive that

> casting will

> ultimately work and in sense it has, it is buying us

> time.

>

> I appreciate everyone's support and see Max in the

> many children in

> this group. All we can give to our children is the

> best. And right

> now the best is casting early! I am disappointed

> many more doctors

> are not interested in exploring casting as a

> treatment method. At

> the same time I am grateful for those doctors who

> are giving our

> children a chance without invasive surgery.

>

> Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts!

>

> Aekta

>

>

> >

> > Actually Aekta lives in Wausau WI, but is from

> Chicago, IL, but it

> looks

> > like this was a story that went syndicated.

> >

> >

> >

> > Betty

> >

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Jacki,

Thanks so much for repeating Siobhan's story and for the info. I forget

which kids have had what done!

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From: infantile scoliosis treatment

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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:41 PM

infantile scoliosis treatment

Subject: Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

And here I am jumping in too - finally LOL

Shellie, I so agree, wouldn't it be great to sit around together and

have this discussion?? I find it so hard to write exactly what I want

to 'say' in a forum - Well, of course Carmell always does a great

job - Hey Friend!

For those of y'awl (I'm pretending to be North American now can ya

tell?) that don't know - My little girl was braced unsuccessfully for

over 3 years, and casted by Dr D'Astous for over a year too (4 casts

in total) - As so many of you point out, each case is so very

diffrent - What works for one kiddo, just doesn't for another -

Casting worked for Siobhan in the short term - i.e while she was in a

properly made cast, her curves 'disappeared', and within hours of

cutting off the cast, they were back with a vengance! This ofcourse

is because of her Marfan Syndrome (connective tissue disorder).

Siobhan's had her VEPTR's for about 10 months now - Lung function was

never an issue for her, as her major curve is lumbar. As wonderful as

this VEPTR procedure has been, it was no walk in the park! But they

are literally acting as an 'internal brace', and it's all good!

I remember talking to Dr D'Astous a couple of years back, as I was

looking into stapling for Siobhan - I figured it sounded way less

invasive than VEPTR, and both surgeries did/do touch the spine - (not

always the pelvis). If I remember correctly, Dr D explained that it

wouldn't work for Siobhan, her curves were too progressive and she

had too much growing left to do (she was around 5 yrs old at that

time). He also mentioned it was still 'experimental'.

I'm kind of rambling here, Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!

Hugs to all

Jacki

>

> Hi ,

>

> <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

>

> When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> and more perfected and developed, this includes

> helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> good company. I promise.

>

> Carmell

>

>

>

> Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

(released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8 toes

(repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis, etc.

http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

<http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/>

>

> Congenital scoliosis support group

> http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

<http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Connie

Good to hear from you again - How is doing with the halo?

Are you in hospital, or doing the halo at home? Either way, it's a

long, tough road I'll bet!

I'm glad to hear that you have an appointment in San - Though

May is a long way off. Is the plan to keep in halo traction

until then? Will you be able to see Dr's and/ or ?

As you know Siobhan has Marfan Syndrome and the VEPTR's too - And to

answer your question about rotation - *sigh* - We didn't get too much

correction, so she's still quite rotated, and to my non-orhtopedic

eye, she's looks like her body is still rotating. After her implants,

the doc's (Dr. at Primary and Dr D'Astous at Shriners SLC)

showed me her x-rays, we we were all so impressed - Her 50* lumbar

curve was 12*! But they told me that they couldn't get much

correction with her rotation, and not to freak out when I saw

this 'lump' on her back, as that is actually her rotated spine! I

wish I could be more positive, but of course every kid is different,

and having an " internal brace " is still Siobhan's best option.

Good luck on the research!

Jacki

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> > impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> > can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

> >

> > When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> > and more perfected and developed, this includes

> > helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> > VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> > (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> > spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> > issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> > of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> > children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> > involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> > continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> > to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> > intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> > good company. I promise.

> >

> > Carmell

> >

> >

> >

> > Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

> GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

> 5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

> Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

> (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

> horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

> ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

> neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8

toes

> (repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

> discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis,

etc.

> http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

> >

> > Congenital scoliosis support group

> > http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You have indirectly answered (I think) another one of my questions. Is

casting the only method of correcting/stopping rotation?

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:52 PM

infantile scoliosis treatment

Subject: Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

Hi Connie

Good to hear from you again - How is doing with the halo?

Are you in hospital, or doing the halo at home? Either way, it's a

long, tough road I'll bet!

I'm glad to hear that you have an appointment in San - Though

May is a long way off. Is the plan to keep in halo traction

until then? Will you be able to see Dr's and/ or ?

As you know Siobhan has Marfan Syndrome and the VEPTR's too - And to

answer your question about rotation - *sigh* - We didn't get too much

correction, so she's still quite rotated, and to my non-orhtopedic

eye, she's looks like her body is still rotating. After her implants,

the doc's (Dr. at Primary and Dr D'Astous at Shriners SLC)

showed me her x-rays, we we were all so impressed - Her 50* lumbar

curve was 12*! But they told me that they couldn't get much

correction with her rotation, and not to freak out when I saw

this 'lump' on her back, as that is actually her rotated spine! I

wish I could be more positive, but of course every kid is different,

and having an " internal brace " is still Siobhan's best option.

Good luck on the research!

Jacki

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> > impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> > can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

> >

> > When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> > and more perfected and developed, this includes

> > helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> > VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> > (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> > spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> > issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> > of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> > children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> > involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> > continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> > to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> > intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> > good company. I promise.

> >

> > Carmell

> >

> >

> >

> > Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

> GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

> 5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

> Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

> (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

> horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

> ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

> neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8

toes

> (repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

> discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis,

etc.

> http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

<http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/>

> >

> > Congenital scoliosis support group

> > http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

<http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/>

> >

> >

> >

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For us - Yes! Although I don't know how much worse Siobhan's rotation

would be with out any kind of support holding her curves??? I guess

I'm saying that for us, VEPTR did get correct the curves, but

couldn't address as much of the rotation as we all would have liked.

Jacki

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> > > impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> > > can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

> > >

> > > When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> > > and more perfected and developed, this includes

> > > helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> > > VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> > > (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> > > spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> > > issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> > > of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> > > children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> > > involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> > > continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> > > to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> > > intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> > > good company. I promise.

> > >

> > > Carmell

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

> > GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion

surgery

> > 5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

> > Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

> > (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

> > horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

> > ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery

1/97),

> > neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8

> toes

> > (repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

> > discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis,

> etc.

> > http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

> <http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/>

> > >

> > > Congenital scoliosis support group

> > > http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

> <http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > __________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > TV dinner still cooling?

> > > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV.

> > > http://tv./ <http://tv./>

> > >

> >

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Hey Jacki,

Thanks for responding. is doing great!! He has actually been in halo

traction for five months now (at home) and doing really well!! We are getting

some really nice correction and are trying to figure out the next step.

At one point, someone said something about casting him to give him a bit more

time before surgery. I'm not real sure about that.

At this point, the rotation is a big problem in s spine, I'm just trying

to figure out the best way to go about fixing it. A second opinion from a VEPTR

pro is the best way to go about it ! I just have to find the right one.

How is Siobhan? has she had an expansion surgery lately? How long does it take

for the incision to heal after expansion?

I hope all is well

Connie

Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

Hi Connie

Good to hear from you again - How is doing with the halo?

Are you in hospital, or doing the halo at home? Either way, it's a

long, tough road I'll bet!

I'm glad to hear that you have an appointment in San - Though

May is a long way off. Is the plan to keep in halo traction

until then? Will you be able to see Dr's and/ or ?

As you know Siobhan has Marfan Syndrome and the VEPTR's too - And to

answer your question about rotation - *sigh* - We didn't get too much

correction, so she's still quite rotated, and to my non-orhtopedic

eye, she's looks like her body is still rotating. After her implants,

the doc's (Dr. at Primary and Dr D'Astous at Shriners SLC)

showed me her x-rays, we we were all so impressed - Her 50* lumbar

curve was 12*! But they told me that they couldn't get much

correction with her rotation, and not to freak out when I saw

this 'lump' on her back, as that is actually her rotated spine! I

wish I could be more positive, but of course every kid is different,

and having an " internal brace " is still Siobhan's best option.

Good luck on the research!

Jacki

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> > impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> > can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

> >

> > When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> > and more perfected and developed, this includes

> > helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> > VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> > (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> > spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> > issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> > of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> > children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> > involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> > continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> > to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> > intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> > good company. I promise.

> >

> > Carmell

> >

> >

> >

> > Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

> GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery

> 5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

> Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

> (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

> horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

> ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97),

> neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8

toes

> (repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

> discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis,

etc.

> http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

> >

> > Congenital scoliosis support group

> > http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> ______________

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> > http://tv./

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Hi Deshea,

Thank you for the information. I am just curious about the method.

In the deepest part of my heart, I hope Max doesn't need surgery,

but if we ever have to cross that bridge I'd like to know my

options.

Aekta

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aekta,

believe me, i am right there with you. i really do hope that after 2 yrs or so

in lucas' current brace, he will be able to wean from it, and then scoliosis

will be a distant memory. unfortunately, as my husband puts it, i'm a realist

(versus a pessimist) so i continue to research and get in contact with parents

who have chosen for various reasons, different paths. somehow it makes me feel

better. like i'm more prepared for other outcomes. i am an organizer and a

planner. to be honest, when lucas was diagnosed with scoliosis at 18 mos, i was

completely thrown for a loop. i don't want to go back there. the way that i

look at it, reading all of these on-line scoliosis groups and e-mailing other

parents saves me a ton of money in THERAPY!

deshea

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>Subject: Re: Staples as tx for scoliosis

>infantile scoliosis treatment

>

> Hi Deshea,

>

> Thank you for the information. I am just curious

> about the method.

> In the deepest part of my heart, I hope Max doesn't

> need surgery,

> but if we ever have to cross that bridge I'd like to

> know my

> options.

>

> Aekta

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Actually Aekta lives in Wausau WI, but is from

> > > Chicago, IL, but it

> > > looks

> > > > like this was a story that went syndicated.

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Hi Connie

Thanks for asking - Siobhan is great! She had her first expansion at

the end of November - And it went well. She was up and around within

hours, and only needed Tylenol for a day or two....

Her incisions healed well - And already you can hardly see the

implant incisions from last May!

Please keep us posted on how is doing. I'm glad that you've

managed to do halo-at-home, I couldn't imagine being in a hospital for

5-6 months!!!!!

I don't think I'd persue casting myself for - And of course

I'm a mum, not a doctor! But there is a fair bit of muscle atrohpy

while kids are in casts, and for most this isn't a big problem - But

for it may be harder to rebuild the muscles?

Just MHO.

Take care

Jacki

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > <<Our daughter has never curved enough to have

> > > impaired lung function (thank God) but her muscles

> > > can't seem to hold her in place without brace on,...>>

> > >

> > > When I mentioned that the VEPTR devices are being more

> > > and more perfected and developed, this includes

> > > helping kids just like yours. They have started doing

> > > VEPTRs for kids who have connective tissue problems

> > > (among other medical conditions) - those kids who's

> > > spines have curves that are relentless. The lung

> > > issue was the first and foremost reason for the design

> > > of the device. Now, they are recognizing that many

> > > children with unique spines (not necessarily chest

> > > involvement) are benefitting from VEPTR. I will

> > > continue to hope and pray with you that you won't need

> > > to travel the VEPTR road (or any other surgical

> > > intervention). However, if you do, you will be in

> > > good company. I promise.

> > >

> > > Carmell

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mom to Kara, idiopathic scoliosis and hypothyroidism, Blake 16,

> > GERD, and Braydon 11, VACTERL-congenital scoliosis (fusion

surgery

> > 5/96), VEPTR patient #137 (implant 8/01), Thoracic Insufficiency

> > Syndrome (TIS), rib anomalies, missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC

> > (released 4/99 & 12/06), anal stenosis, chronic constipation,

> > horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

> > ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery

1/97),

> > neurogenic bladder, dysplastic right leg w/right clubfoot with 8

> toes

> > (repaired 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), tibial torsion, 4cm length

> > discrepancy-wears 3cm lift, pes cavus, SUA, GERD, Gastroparesis,

> etc.

> > http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/

> > >

> > > Congenital scoliosis support group

> > > http://health./group/CongenitalScoliosisSupport/

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > __________________________________________________________

> > ______________

> > > TV dinner still cooling?

> > > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV.

> > > http://tv./

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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