MARY

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Hi ,

Sorry to hear you are in pain. Can't you call your hepatologist to get

something prescribed??

The 19th is such a long time away...

Take care

Loes

Re: [ ] Ginger

> Ginger - Thank you for all the info that you posted it has helped a lot, I

> haven't written in awhile because I have had joint pain the worst it's

ever

> been from my neck to my

> feet and I don't see my hepotologist until October 19th. My Gastro doctor

> has never

> been one to prescribe anything for pain so I sleep a lot it is getting to

the

> point where

> I can't stand the pain any longer and I get so depressed that I can't

> concentrate on

> anything. Does anyone know of anyover the counter pain med that would

help a

> little

> but not be toxic to the liver? Would greatly appreciate anyones

suggestions.

> Thank

> you, (mhe3053904@...)

>

>

>

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Leah,

We have something called " e-fax " . I have no idea how it works. DH is not

home at the moment. When he comes home, I can ask him, but it may be

late. Dont' worry about it. I have some books here, and I think I have

everything except the words to the state song.

Thanks, and if it is soon, I'll find out how to do it (e-fax) and let you

know.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:08 -0500 " leah leah " <okieleah@...>

writes:

>

>

> mary do you have a fax!!!! i can fax everything i printed out..i got

> state

> song,motto, picture of tree,flower and state bird and lots ofneat

> info....

> if not ican try to do attachment,butiamstupidatthat...let

> meknowleah

> >From: J Stolz <stolzfamily@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: mary state song words i have for you

> >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:00:09 -0800

> >

> >Leah,

> >If you sent the words, I did not get them. I'm getting excited

> about

> >doing this and really " showing' them

> >

> >By the way, who suggested " recording " on a little sound card thing?

> Where

> >can I get these?

> >

> >

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I still need the bags , Terri had some, but they were a little too small

for what I wanted them for. I would appreciate it if you could tell me where

to get them. Thanks kathy

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In a message dated 4/6/01 9:41:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

KKdolly842@... writes:

<< I would appreciate it if you could tell me where

to get them. Thanks kathy >>

Cello bags are available from <A HREF= " http://www.nashvillewraps.com/ " >~

Nashville Wraps Internet Catalog ~</A> quick ship, cheap and good service.

Lizz

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In a message dated 08/18/2001 2:55:09 PM Central Daylight Time,

heelpin@... writes:

> I think you and I are on the same page about all this. I also have low

> adrenal function but seem to be gradually improving. My endurance level is

> a lot better and my grip is stronger. I have never been able to take DHEA

> or melatonin, it makes me feel really bad and I suspect this has something

> to do with the adrenal. Do you know how your daughter reacts to DHEA? What

> is she taking for the adrenal and has it helped?

>

Everything, including my adrenals, is outta whack. My saliva test indicated

that my cortisol level is far too elevated (wonder how much higher it would

have been had I been tested prior to February when I began my candida

program). My naturopath didn't recommend anything to lower this, except

progesterone cream to combat my times of estrogen imbalance. However, in my

readings I found that DHEA is great for reducing cortisol levels, but dammit

I don't want MORE facial hair, which is one of the side effects of DHEA! I

am trying Moducare Sterinol, a precursor to DHEA. Can't tell you, yet, if

its working, as it has only been a week. Does anyone have experience with

this product, or with another supplement that will reduce cortisol? I know

it has come down a lot, from last year, as I have increased my potassium

(shown to be low, as well, on my hair analysis) and am not overreacting to

stress, as a result of this as well as the candida protocol.

Annette

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<PRE>good luck mary, hope all goes well with your colonoscopy. when do you have

it

gone? kathy in il

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Why are these posts being sent to our list? Not all are catholic.

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>Reply- > >Subject: [ ] mary >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:35:39 -0400 > ><< message3.txt >> Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online

, God’s Masterpiece

By a Claretian Priest

Of all the feast days in the liturgical calendar of the Catholic Church,

only three birthdays are observed: the Nativity of our Divine Savior, Who is

Holiness Itself; St. the Baptist, who was sanctified in his mother's

womb; and , the ever-virgin Mother of God, whose birthday is celebrated

on the eighth of September.

But Our Lady was eternally present in the mind of God. The Lord possessed me

in the beginning of His ways, before He made anything from the beginning. I

was set up from eternity, and of old before the earth was made. (Proverbs 8:

22-23). God preordained from all eternity that should exist. And, by a

positive act of the Divine Will, God predestined to be entrusted with

the sublime mission of being the Mother of His only-begotten Son Who was to

come in the flesh. This was an absolutely free act on the part of God.

Because she was to be the Mother of God incarnate, God would accord to her

all the gifts and prerogatives commensurate with that dignity, including the

grace to merit a singular degree of sanctity and purity in order to render

her worthy to be the Mother of God.

Now, the whole reason for 's existence is Jesus. In fact, Jesus and

were predestined together. This is the teaching of two popes: Pope Pius IX,

in his Apostolic Constitution, Ineffabilis Deus, defining the Immaculate

Conception as a dogma of the Faith, and Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus,

in which he issued the dogma of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin .

Both say that Jesus and were predestined by God " in one and the same

decree. " There is a hierarchical order here. Christ, because He is God, was

willed initially, and second. As St. said, He is the image of the

invisible God, the first-born of every creature; for in Him all things were

created in heaven and on earth. . . (Colossians 1:15-16). This order,

however, does not imply chronology. Because of our creaturely limitations,

we must speak as though God willed this order sequentially. But we know that

in God there is neither past nor future. Time does not elapse in the mind of

God; there is only the " Eternal Now. "

The Immaculate Conception

In his decree for Our Lady, God willed to grant her certain unique and

wonderful gifts. The first of these was the Immaculate Conception. Since all

men have Adam for their father and representative, each person is born into

the state of Original Sin. But would be free from this stain in view of

the foreseen merits of Christ. In other words, would be redeemed

beforehand, in a completely singular manner. This would be necessary in

order to make her a pure vessel in which to contain the Son of God. Had

not been preserved from the sin of Adam, it would have obscured the splendor

of Christ because of the intimate union he would form with her. As St.

Alphonsus de Ligouri says, " was conceived without sin that the

Divine Son might be born of her without sin. Not that Jesus Christ could

have contracted sin; but that he might not be reproached even with having

had a Mother infected with it, who would consequently have been a slave of

the Devil. " Some raise the objection that 's Immaculate Conception takes

away her need for redemption. The fact is, it does not. Which is better: to

rescue someone who has been taken captive, or to prevent his capture from

the beginning? The answer is obvious. Therefore, far from exempting

from the law of redemption, her Immaculate Conception is the very perfection

of Christ's redeeming grace.

, Full of Grace

You might say that the Immaculate Conception is a " negative " holiness, since

it means a lack of sin. But God also willed to complement this with another

gift: the fullness of grace, thereby joining to her freedom from sin a

positive sanctity. This positive holiness would include the infusion of

sanctifying Grace, the theological virtues of Faith, Hope, and Charity, and

the four cardinal virtues of Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance,

along with the seven gifts of the Holy Ghost.

Does this mean that God granted Our Lady absolute fullness of grace from the

beginning? No. But she was to have all the grace that her dignity as the

Mother of God demanded. However, this fullness would be able to enjoy

increase, so that every time freely and consciously cooperated with the

will of God, her merit, grace and sanctity were augmented. Grace would

increase in the soul of every time she received the Sacraments. But of

the seven Sacraments, would receive only three: Baptism, Confirmation,

and the Holy Eucharist. would not need Baptism in order to free her

from Original Sin, but to incorporate her into the Mystical Body of Christ

and to impress upon her soul the sacramental character. And, as we know,

Baptism is necessary in order to receive the other Sacraments. was

confirmed at Pentecost along with the Apostles, and received the Holy

Eucharist as often as she could. Because of the perfect disposition of her

soul, the effects of the Sacraments would be of such strength that

would enjoy a profound and rapid growth, which would deepen her original

fullness of grace, so that at the end of her time here on earth, would

be ablaze with grace and love, truly a " Woman clothed with the Sun. "

No Actual Sin or Concupiscence

Was our Blessed Lady to be immune from personal sin too? Yes! God disposed

all things fittingly for the Mother of His Son. By a unique privilege,

would be immune from all actual sin, both mortal and venial, as defined by

the Council of Trent, Canon XXIII, On Justification. She would even be

immune from the smallest imperfection and willful violation or omission of a

counsel of God or of those exercising authority over her. She would owe all

this, not to her own merits, but to a singular favor from the Most High.

But the favors would not stop there. As a consequence of her freedom from

Original Sin, would be free from the urgencies of desire known as

" concupiscence. " If Our Lady were to suffer from the slightest movement of

concu-piscence, then that would have been the clearest indication that she

was under the power of Original Sin, of which concupiscence is a direct

result. But of course, this would not be the case, because of 's prior

freedom from all sin. These privileges, plus Our Lady's perpetual virginity,

her confirmation in grace, her unique role as Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix,

her Assumption into heaven, and her universal Queenship, were all

fore-ordained and freely willed by the Almighty. It was fitting, for God had

the power to do it, and He did do it.

The Birth of Immaculate

So, in the fullness of time, , " our tainted nature's solitary boast, "

was conceived in the womb of her mother, St. Anne. At that moment, it was as

though God stretched forth his hand and said to that Ancient Curse: " Thus

far and no farther, You shall not touch her! "

Scripture tells us nothing about the birth of the Mother of God. But you can

well imagine that all heaven was stilled in silent reverence and rejoicing,

for now God's plan of redemption was about to unfold. From would be

born God-in-the-flesh, the Redeemer of the world, Who would conquer the

Enemy, restore the sons and daughters of Adam to grace and friendship with

God, and lead the redeemed children of God into everlasting glory.

De Numquam Satis

St. Bernard once wrote: " Of , one can never say enough. " However, we

must bring our consideration of God's Masterpiece to a conclusion with this

last point: is intimately bound up in the plan of redemption. Jesus and

are indissolubly united in order to fulfill the selfsame mission. Thus

it is impossible to speak of one without referring to the other, although

Jesus is the principal Person in this divine plan. Perhaps a hymn taken from

the Common of the Blessed Virgin in the Roman Breviary best expresses

this reality: the dawn, Christ the perfect day;

the gate, Christ the Heavenly Way!

the root, Christ the Mystic Vine;

the grape,Christ the Sacred Wine!

the wheat, Christ the Living Bread;

the stem, Christ the Rose blood-red!

the font, Christ the Cleansing Flood;

the cup, Chirst the Saving Blood!

the temple, Christ the temple's Lord;

the shrine, Christ the God adored!

the beacon, Christ the Heaven's Rest;

the mirror, Christ the Vision Blest!

the mother, Chirst the mother's Son;

By all things blest while endless ages run.

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I don't want anyone to think I am bothered by the posts. My dad was a Methodist Pastor so its not like I'd be allergic to religious topics or threads. Its just there is never any correspondence from this poster... no support no give and take no asking for support advice or opion or sharing in any other manner that I am aware of...Only sermons if you will posted and it just seems a bit confusing to understand how this fits in with the nature of our list and why we are a group and how it is that support each other. The power of the delete key is a mighty one and I use it but I guess what I was saying is Whats up with this? Unsubscribing them would be fine with me but please don't feel you have to on my account. I am very confused to the purpose of the posts....but that is all.

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Unsubscibe them! I AM Catholic but it bothers me that people are using this resource for the wrong purpose.

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-I dont think that was the article that addressed mycotoxin absorbant

in pvc, heres one other one I posted that day too. I was thinking it

was a sewer article, but it may of been one of the referenced ones at

the bottom of this one. who knows, may of been one of those days. if I

locate it,I let you know.

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> http://www.bioline.org.br/request?jb03113

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Thank-you very much..the article was helpful. I understand having " one of those

days " . I had one today..as usual I forgot that I can't clean with anything that

has bleach in it (sigh). Oh well..I do my best to keep a sense of humor..at

least I have a VERY clean shower..

Have a nice evening..

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote:

-I dont think that was the article that addressed mycotoxin absorbant

in pvc, heres one other one I posted that day too. I was thinking it

was a sewer article, but it may of been one of the referenced ones at

the bottom of this one. who knows, may of been one of those days. if I

locate it,I let you know.

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yes, i remember reading it and it was a abstract, i remember planing

on posting it, but i must not of.lol's, must of got sidetracted. if I

didn't save it to my files, hopfully i can locate it again, maybe

through pubed. I know what your saying, my mom sent me a shirt and

not thinking I left it setting around in the bag. the smell it put

out was getting to me, finally it dawned on me what it was and I put

it in a another bag and tied it shut,gee, the things we have to deal

with. I love the strange looks I get from friends and family when I

smell something they dont. my daughter was here the other day and a

friend stopped by. I quickly started to react to him,my daughter

said " I dont smell anything " they both gave me that look, I said " I

smell paint " . he thought about it ,than said " well, I was scraping

some wallpaper that had been painted over off the wall at my house " .

he was amazed that that smell had gotten into his

cloths.

> -I dont think that was the article that addressed

mycotoxin absorbant

> in pvc, heres one other one I posted that day too. I was thinking

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> was a sewer article, but it may of been one of the referenced ones

at

> the bottom of this one. who knows, may of been one of those days.

if I

> locate it,I let you know.

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Hi , I will let you know when I get the appt with Dr Hu - any input from you would be greatly appreciated!! Perhaps, once is settled and the holidays are over, we can talk(?)... Ken. <Dawg@...> wrote: Just spoke with Bob - last night had to be one of the worst nights she's had so far. Jusr restless, anxious, crying in pain, nausea and vomiting all night long until they finally calmed her with

some Valium IV. The Fellow came by this morning (Bob calls him Dr. Look-n-Leave)and Bob asked how they could discharge her and send her to a nursing home when she's so sick - he was told not to worry, she wouldn't be going anywhere. Until she could walk, take oral meds and have regular BM's, she'll stay right there. And Dr. Hu sent in a consult for a Gastro man who came and got some new x-rays and says things are improving. She also has a problem with her left leg - it had been weak but has improved, and now she has like nerve pain in it. They wanted to give her Neurontin but she can't take meds by mouth, so they're going to change her pain meds all around. Take the fentynal patch off, no more dilaudid, and start her on methadone as it has something for nerve pain in it also. The Gastro guy wasn't too happy about that, but oh well. The GOOD new is that, as we were speaking, let loose with a BM and it was

non-stop. Just kept coming and coming. So that could be a GOOD thing. So Merry Christmas to in the hospital.......she was so concerned about that prior to surgery - she wanted to BE HOME for Christmas! :::::sigh:::::~~ __________________________________________________

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greetings rusty.....accent ?.....you'll know it when you hear it .....one day

i'm going to ask gil where he is from.....i know where barrie is.....beautiful

country up there.....no, i'm not in ontario now but i am from kingsville ontario

which is south of windsor.....actually kingsville is the most southerly town in

canada.....i live in florida now.....others mentioned mumm's in canada.....i've

ordered from them in the past.....nice people.....peace, mary