Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to lose. My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being used as engery...which is a BAD thing. Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might help. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I'm not 100% sure I'm reading this right, but if she has the metallic taste and the amonia smell (like a new perm) after exercise, it's because her carbs are way too low. Carbs are protein sparing, meaning if you're eating enough carbs, they fuel your workouts and the protein is then available for muscle building and repair. Cut the carbs to low, and protein/muscle becomes a fuel source. Burning protein as a fuel source makes you smell and taste funny. Check out 's article on the subject: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htm I would say that eating only 30% carbs is probably aggravating the situation. Try at least 50%, and make sure she's eating carbs at every meal and plenty of carbs before and after her workouts. Once you get the protein breakdown under control, you might be able to squeak the carbs down a little more to speed up fat loss. In general though, if there's a consistent calorie deficit, it shouldn't matter much if she's eating 50% carbs, she'll still be able to lose and she'll probably feel a lot better. Not everybody is cut out to be a low-carber, or even a moderate-carber. I definitely function best with at least half of my calorie intake coming from carbs. > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to > lose. > > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being > used as engery...which is a BAD thing. > > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might > help. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I never knew what it was, but when I was doing tons of fasted cardio and eating only around 1500 calories and not many carbs, I got that weird taste in my mouth during and after cardio. I would agree with to up the carbs and not do fasted cardio if she's doing that. What is her calorie intake? Skwigg wrote: I'm not 100% sure I'm reading this right, but if she has the metallic taste and the amonia smell (like a new perm) after exercise, it's because her carbs are way too low. Carbs are protein sparing, meaning if you're eating enough carbs, they fuel your workouts and the protein is then available for muscle building and repair. Cut the carbs to low, and protein/muscle becomes a fuel source. Burning protein as a fuel source makes you smell and taste funny. Check out 's article on the subject: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htm I would say that eating only 30% carbs is probably aggravating the situation. Try at least 50%, and make sure she's eating carbs at every meal and plenty of carbs before and after her workouts. Once you get the protein breakdown under control, you might be able to squeak the carbs down a little more to speed up fat loss. In general though, if there's a consistent calorie deficit, it shouldn't matter much if she's eating 50% carbs, she'll still be able to lose and she'll probably feel a lot better. Not everybody is cut out to be a low-carber, or even a moderate-carber. I definitely function best with at least half of my calorie intake coming from carbs. > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to > lose. > > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being > used as engery...which is a BAD thing. > > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might > help. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > ~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 > > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a > > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a > > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a > > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now > > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to > > lose. > > > > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, > > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework > > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable > > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about > > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She > > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked > > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering > > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is > > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain > > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the > > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being > > used as engery...which is a BAD thing. > > > > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more > > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel > > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with > > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might > > help. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > ~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Has she seen a doctor about this? alexemmekerr wrote: > > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a > > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a > > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a > > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now > > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to > > lose. > > > > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, > > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework > > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable > > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about > > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She > > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked > > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering > > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is > > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain > > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the > > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being > > used as engery...which is a BAD thing. > > > > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more > > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel > > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with > > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might > > help. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > ~ > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 I'm mainly a lurker, but as an asthma sufferer, I figured I could help out. Asthma doesn't cause any sort of " taste " . Most people that have been properly diagnosed and are following their treatment plan can exercise with no problem. There are many wonderful medications available to asthmatics and there is no reason why exercise should be " unbearable " . > I guess I was thinking backwards. I was thinking she must have a > catabolic disturbance of some sort. I still hope that she does not > have any further problems. I read the article..which was great by > the way. Thank you. I did know that on long intense workouts you > would get that ammonia taste, but she has it with light workouts and > even while doing vacuuming or common household chores, that seem > odd to me. I guess that is why I was thinking she needed to build up > her muscle since for some unexplained reason it was breaking down to > quickly. I do understand the typical standards, of eat more carbs > if you have that funny taste. I guess I was thinking hers was > something different, and I was thinking of a previous post of a girl > that had something like this..and I could of sworn..although it was > ages ago, that she ate EXTRA protein. But, I could be confused and > mistaken..I'm good for that! > > I have been doing some research on my own a bit, and found that > patients with COPD, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease could > shift toward catabolism and possibly to the development of > peripheral muscle wasting. She clams she has Asthma..but maybe it > is worse then she thought. I do not want to scare her, but she said > her Asthma has gotten worse so I hope it is not this. This disease > is more common in older people, and she is only 26 but it can happen > in younger people as well. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 , is this woman seeing a physician? The ammonia taste with little physical activity really concerns me. Could she be pregnant? I was 1000x more sensitive to taste and smell when I was pregnant. To the extreme. --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I guess that is why I was thinking she was possibly misdiagnosed. Although, I spoke to her again today and mentioned all of the wonderful things everyone has been so kind to write, and I think it could be either the pregnant thing...cuz you never know. Or it could be she is not eating enough..and drinking enough water. She did admit she does not eat a lot before bed..if anything, has been really cutting on the calories, and not drinking enough water....humm > > I'm mainly a lurker, but as an asthma sufferer, I figured I could > help out. Asthma doesn't cause any sort of " taste " . Most people that > have been properly diagnosed and are following their treatment plan > can exercise with no problem. There are many wonderful medications > available to asthmatics and there is no reason why exercise should > be " unbearable " . > > > > I guess I was thinking backwards. I was thinking she must have a > > catabolic disturbance of some sort. I still hope that she does > not > > have any further problems. I read the article..which was great by > > the way. Thank you. I did know that on long intense workouts you > > would get that ammonia taste, but she has it with light workouts > and > > even while doing vacuuming or common household chores, that seem > > odd to me. I guess that is why I was thinking she needed to build > up > > her muscle since for some unexplained reason it was breaking down > to > > quickly. I do understand the typical standards, of eat more carbs > > if you have that funny taste. I guess I was thinking hers was > > something different, and I was thinking of a previous post of a > girl > > that had something like this..and I could of sworn..although it > was > > ages ago, that she ate EXTRA protein. But, I could be confused > and > > mistaken..I'm good for that! > > > > I have been doing some research on my own a bit, and found that > > patients with COPD, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease could > > shift toward catabolism and possibly to the development of > > peripheral muscle wasting. She clams she has Asthma..but maybe it > > is worse then she thought. I do not want to scare her, but she > said > > her Asthma has gotten worse so I hope it is not this. This > disease > > is more common in older people, and she is only 26 but it can > happen > > in younger people as well. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 thanks, I gave her Hussmans site to find out what she is burning a day, then make sure she eats enough carbs, eats enough food, and drinks plenty of water. You all are great...thanks for the great feed back. ~ > > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a > > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a > > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a > > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now > > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to > > lose. > > > > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet, > > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework > > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable > > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about > > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She > > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked > > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering > > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is > > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain > > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the > > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being > > used as engery...which is a BAD thing. > > > > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more > > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel > > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with > > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might > > help. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > ~ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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