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I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a

mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now

for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

lose.

My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet,

but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework

she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable

due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about

105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering

if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is

breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain

weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel

so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might

help.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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I'm not 100% sure I'm reading this right, but if she has the metallic

taste and the amonia smell (like a new perm) after exercise, it's

because her carbs are way too low. Carbs are protein sparing, meaning

if you're eating enough carbs, they fuel your workouts and the protein

is then available for muscle building and repair. Cut the carbs to

low, and protein/muscle becomes a fuel source. Burning protein as a

fuel source makes you smell and taste funny. Check out 's

article on the subject:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htm

I would say that eating only 30% carbs is probably aggravating the

situation. Try at least 50%, and make sure she's eating carbs at every

meal and plenty of carbs before and after her workouts. Once you get

the protein breakdown under control, you might be able to squeak the

carbs down a little more to speed up fat loss. In general though, if

there's a consistent calorie deficit, it shouldn't matter much if

she's eating 50% carbs, she'll still be able to lose and she'll

probably feel a lot better. Not everybody is cut out to be a

low-carber, or even a moderate-carber. I definitely function best with

at least half of my calorie intake coming from carbs.

> I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

> problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

> extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a

> mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now

> for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

> lose.

>

> My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet,

> but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework

> she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable

> due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about

> 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

> states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

> for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering

> if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is

> breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain

> weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

> pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

> used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

>

> Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

> information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel

> so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

> protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might

> help.

>

> Any help would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> ~

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I never knew what it was, but when I was doing tons of fasted cardio and eating

only around 1500 calories and not many carbs, I got that weird taste in my

mouth during and after cardio. I would agree with to up the carbs and not

do fasted cardio if she's doing that. What is her calorie intake?

Skwigg wrote: I'm not 100% sure I'm reading this

right, but if she has the metallic

taste and the amonia smell (like a new perm) after exercise, it's

because her carbs are way too low. Carbs are protein sparing, meaning

if you're eating enough carbs, they fuel your workouts and the protein

is then available for muscle building and repair. Cut the carbs to

low, and protein/muscle becomes a fuel source. Burning protein as a

fuel source makes you smell and taste funny. Check out 's

article on the subject:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ammonia.htm

I would say that eating only 30% carbs is probably aggravating the

situation. Try at least 50%, and make sure she's eating carbs at every

meal and plenty of carbs before and after her workouts. Once you get

the protein breakdown under control, you might be able to squeak the

carbs down a little more to speed up fat loss. In general though, if

there's a consistent calorie deficit, it shouldn't matter much if

she's eating 50% carbs, she'll still be able to lose and she'll

probably feel a lot better. Not everybody is cut out to be a

low-carber, or even a moderate-carber. I definitely function best with

at least half of my calorie intake coming from carbs.

> I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

> problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

> extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume a

> mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body. Now

> for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

> lose.

>

> My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed yet,

> but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light housework

> she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost unbearable

> due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was about

> 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

> states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

> for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was wondering

> if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body is

> breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to gain

> weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

> pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

> used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

>

> Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

> information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I feel

> so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

> protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might

> help.

>

> Any help would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> ~

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> > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

> > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

> > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to

consume a

> > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body.

Now

> > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

> > lose.

> >

> > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed

yet,

> > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light

housework

> > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost

unbearable

> > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was

about

> > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

> > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

> > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was

wondering

> > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body

is

> > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to

gain

> > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

> > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

> > used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

> >

> > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

> > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I

feel

> > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

> > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought

might

> > help.

> >

> > Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > ~

>

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Has she seen a doctor about this?

alexemmekerr wrote:

> > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

> > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

> > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to

consume a

> > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body.

Now

> > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

> > lose.

> >

> > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed

yet,

> > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light

housework

> > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost

unbearable

> > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was

about

> > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

> > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

> > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was

wondering

> > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body

is

> > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to

gain

> > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

> > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

> > used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

> >

> > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

> > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I

feel

> > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

> > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought

might

> > help.

> >

> > Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > ~

>

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I'm mainly a lurker, but as an asthma sufferer, I figured I could

help out. Asthma doesn't cause any sort of " taste " . Most people that

have been properly diagnosed and are following their treatment plan

can exercise with no problem. There are many wonderful medications

available to asthmatics and there is no reason why exercise should

be " unbearable " .

> I guess I was thinking backwards. I was thinking she must have a

> catabolic disturbance of some sort. I still hope that she does

not

> have any further problems. I read the article..which was great by

> the way. Thank you. I did know that on long intense workouts you

> would get that ammonia taste, but she has it with light workouts

and

> even while doing vacuuming or common household chores, that seem

> odd to me. I guess that is why I was thinking she needed to build

up

> her muscle since for some unexplained reason it was breaking down

to

> quickly. I do understand the typical standards, of eat more carbs

> if you have that funny taste. I guess I was thinking hers was

> something different, and I was thinking of a previous post of a

girl

> that had something like this..and I could of sworn..although it

was

> ages ago, that she ate EXTRA protein. But, I could be confused

and

> mistaken..I'm good for that!

>

> I have been doing some research on my own a bit, and found that

> patients with COPD, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease could

> shift toward catabolism and possibly to the development of

> peripheral muscle wasting. She clams she has Asthma..but maybe it

> is worse then she thought. I do not want to scare her, but she

said

> her Asthma has gotten worse so I hope it is not this. This

disease

> is more common in older people, and she is only 26 but it can

happen

> in younger people as well.

>

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, is this woman seeing a physician? The ammonia taste with little

physical activity really concerns me.

Could she be pregnant? I was 1000x more sensitive to taste and smell when I

was pregnant. To the extreme.

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I guess that is why I was thinking she was possibly misdiagnosed.

Although, I spoke to her again today and mentioned all of the

wonderful things everyone has been so kind to write, and I think it

could be either the pregnant thing...cuz you never know. Or it

could be she is not eating enough..and drinking enough water. She

did admit she does not eat a lot before bed..if anything, has been

really cutting on the calories, and not drinking enough water....humm

>

> I'm mainly a lurker, but as an asthma sufferer, I figured I could

> help out. Asthma doesn't cause any sort of " taste " . Most people

that

> have been properly diagnosed and are following their treatment

plan

> can exercise with no problem. There are many wonderful medications

> available to asthmatics and there is no reason why exercise should

> be " unbearable " .

>

>

> > I guess I was thinking backwards. I was thinking she must have

a

> > catabolic disturbance of some sort. I still hope that she does

> not

> > have any further problems. I read the article..which was great

by

> > the way. Thank you. I did know that on long intense workouts

you

> > would get that ammonia taste, but she has it with light workouts

> and

> > even while doing vacuuming or common household chores, that

seem

> > odd to me. I guess that is why I was thinking she needed to

build

> up

> > her muscle since for some unexplained reason it was breaking

down

> to

> > quickly. I do understand the typical standards, of eat more

carbs

> > if you have that funny taste. I guess I was thinking hers was

> > something different, and I was thinking of a previous post of a

> girl

> > that had something like this..and I could of sworn..although it

> was

> > ages ago, that she ate EXTRA protein. But, I could be confused

> and

> > mistaken..I'm good for that!

> >

> > I have been doing some research on my own a bit, and found that

> > patients with COPD, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease could

> > shift toward catabolism and possibly to the development of

> > peripheral muscle wasting. She clams she has Asthma..but maybe

it

> > is worse then she thought. I do not want to scare her, but she

> said

> > her Asthma has gotten worse so I hope it is not this. This

> disease

> > is more common in older people, and she is only 26 but it can

> happen

> > in younger people as well.

> >

>

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thanks, I gave her Hussmans site to find out what she is burning a

day, then make sure she eats enough carbs, eats enough food, and

drinks plenty of water. You all are great...thanks for the great

feed back.

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> > I know a long time ago there was a women on this site that had a

> > problem where her body would start to eat at her muscles at a

> > extremely high rate. She noted that should would need to consume

a

> > mass amount of protein each day just to keep up with her body.

Now

> > for this particular women, it sounded like she still had fat to

> > lose.

> >

> > My question, a friend of mine has a problem that is undiagnosed

yet,

> > but she clams that when she does any cardio, or even light

housework

> > she gets that pneumonia taste in her mouth that is almost

unbearable

> > due to her Asama. About a year ago before this issue she was

about

> > 105-110 pounds, in one year she has ballooned to about 200. She

> > states that she has not changed her eating habits and was checked

> > for thyroid issues. The doctor claims she is fine. I was

wondering

> > if possibly this could be why the huge gain in pounds. Her body

is

> > breaking down protein, before carbs and fat, and causing her to

gain

> > weight due to lack of muscle loss. I know that usually the

> > pheumonia state in your mouth is typically a sign muscle is being

> > used as engery...which is a BAD thing.

> >

> > Is there such an issue, and if so where can I find out more

> > information for her. She is so desperate to lose weight and I

feel

> > so bad for her. As of now I have her on a 50/30/20 split with

> > protein, carbs, and fat. Adding the extra protein I thought might

> > help.

> >

> > Any help would be appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > ~

>

>

>

>

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