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Hi ,

Sorry in advance that this won't answer your question. But we did

have a real scare late last year when we suddenly noticed Eddie's

canines were discoloured and eroding - they were soft. Unfortunately,

he's lost some of one of them - but they are now white again and hard

too just like normal healthy teeth. We did 2 things - we replaced

betaine and pepsin (which we had mixed in his food because he doesn't

take capsules) with a teaspoon of lemon before meals - and we

introduced vitamin k2 (we use the Thorne drops). Within days we

noticed a big improvement - it was quite amazing.

I think vitamin k has helped a lot. I'm afraid I'm still learning

about calcium and absorption - we are using chamomile (recommended by

Dr Amy Yasko) as an additional calcium source.

Best wishes,

Sandy

>

> Hi listmates. Could someone help me understand this subject. I have

> been supplementing on 1200mg of calcium for a while now as he is

> cf since Nov 04. Have just recently come across the calcium/vit k

> debate and am a bit confused. He has beautiful teeth, but the back

> teeth are now turning black! He is having some pain at the moment, and

> previous dentist visits were dismal to say the least. Is the Ca

> supplementation doing more harm than good? Do I stop it and try to

> raise the levels of A D and K? What are others doing in this

> situation, has anyone any experience with the Vit K? Any help would be

> great thanks in advance, C

>

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Are they milk teeth or second teeth Sandy? Why did you replace the

Betaine? Because it was too acid?

xx Sally

denly noticed Eddie's

canines were discoloured and eroding - they were soft. Unfortunately,

he's lost some of one of them - but they are now white again and hard

too just like normal healthy teeth. We did 2 things - we replaced

betaine and pepsin (which we had mixed in his food because he doesn't

take capsules) with a teaspoon of lemon before meals - and we

introduced vitamin k2 (we use the Thorne drops). Within days we

noticed a big improvement - it was quite amazing.

I think vitamin k has helped a lot. I'm afraid I'm still learning

about calcium and absorption - we are using chamomile (recommended by

Dr Amy Yasko) as an additional calcium source.

Best wishes,

Sandy

>

> Hi listmates. Could someone help me understand this subject. I

have

> been supplementing on 1200mg of calcium for a while now as he

is

> cf since Nov 04. Have just recently come across the calcium/vit k

> debate and am a bit confused. He has beautiful teeth, but the back

> teeth are now turning black! He is having some pain at the moment,

and

> previous dentist visits were dismal to say the least. Is the Ca

> supplementation doing more harm than good? Do I stop it and try to

> raise the levels of A D and K? What are others doing in this

> situation, has anyone any experience with the Vit K? Any help

would be

> great thanks in advance, C

>

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Hi Sally,

They are milk teeth. Yes, the betaine and pepsin is acidic and should

not be chewed - it's a problem when your child doesn't take capsules

or tablets - but we've found the lemon juice alternative fine and give

Eddie just a small teaspoon 10-20 mins before a meal (mixed with a

little water) and he doesn't mind it too much at all. It seems to

help with digestion.

We really had no idea Eddie's teeth were so bad because the front ones

looked absolutely fine and his canines weren't normally visible.

Stangely they are more visible now - I think it's because he's smiling

more and making more expressions.

Best wishes,

Sandy

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he talks about the role of serotonin and acetylcholine in the genesis of peristalytic action in the gut. (I used to think serotonin was only in the brain and nervous system but it is also very abundant in the gut which is why people taking SSRIs also gt e digestive disturbances

Hi

We have been thinking about this too recently cos one of the drugs recommended for by DR Krigsman is called Zelnorm. Its also used by people with IBS and is supposed to have some role on Serotonin Receptors in the gut (95% of our bodies Serotonin or receptors are in the gut, whoops have forgotten, hubby did the research).

Many people with IBS also have depression and many report that when on this drug they feel better too. Makes sense to me, eg anxiety wise they feel beetr should have said.

This has helped s Peristalsis deffo. Its not licensed in the UK or for children from what I undersatnd BTW....

Thanks for posting that.

Caroline

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For a time when Edith was about 5/6 and she woke in the night -- I used

to give her Tyxylix (or something) a cough mixture with obviously some

form of narcotic must have been very mild because it was

non-prescription -- and it seemed to help her go to sleep. To my horror

I realised it had made a black spot in one tooth, presumably where she

lay on her side after taking it and the sweet stuff pooled in her

mouth. She had no pain and I ignored it until the tooth more or less

fell apart in her mouth and she had a big cavern in it. Still no

appearance of toothache but I took her to the dentist. He wouldn't look

at it but said that milk teeth could do this, it wouldn't be hurting

and nothing should be done about it. So, very gratefully, I did nothing

except take more care of her teeth from then on.

The black used to get covered up from time to time (with dentine?) It

seemed to come back but ultimately it seemed not to matter. She didn't

lose the tooth early or anything.

Entirely different point -- was the betaine any good? What made you

give it? Did it work instead of or alongside enzymes?

little water) and he doesn't mind it too much at all. It seems to

help with digestion.

We really had no idea Eddie's teeth were so bad because the front ones

looked absolutely fine and his canines weren't normally visible.

Stangely they are more visible now - I think it's because he's smiling

more and making more expressions.

Best wishes,

Sandy

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Eddie's problem was lack of digestion and also very poor peristalsis -

his food seemed to sit in his tummy too long.

I think the betaine and pepsin helped a bit but it's hard to be sure

since his digestion went from poor to variable. I took betain and

pepsin myself because I have similar problems. It seemed to help just

a bit. But I like lemon more - it seems to trigger the stomach to

expect food. I'm really not sure of how it works but it feels like it

encourages the stomach to work for itself rather than just supplying

acid.

Best wishes,

Sandy

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Sandy,

My daughter's two ultrasounds showed no movement of intestines which didn't surprise me as she had chronic constipation. In Gershon's book, The Second Brain, he talks about the role of serotonin and acetylcholine in the genesis of peristalytic action in the gut. (I used to think serotonin was only in the brain and nervous system but it is also very abundant in the gut which is why people taking SSRIs also gt e digestive disturbances. )

Just an idea. Thiamine is cleaved to form a precursor for acetylcholine so maybe try dosing with B1. I also read this in a vitamin book recently.

Re: Calcium or Vit K?

Eddie's problem was lack of digestion and also very poor peristalsis - his food seemed to sit in his tummy too long.I think the betaine and pepsin helped a bit but it's hard to be sure since his digestion went from poor to variable. I took betain and pepsin myself because I have similar problems. It seemed to help just a bit. But I like lemon more - it seems to trigger the stomach to expect food. I'm really not sure of how it works but it feels like it encourages the stomach to work for itself rather than just supplying acid.Best wishes,Sandy

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Thanks and Caroline,

We give Eddie B1 - I don't think we can give anymore but of course

it's hard to know how much is being absorbed. BTW - I've ordered the

Second Brain Book :).

Caroline - I noticed Zelnorm at International Pharmacy (guess you've

seen it but thought I'd mention incase)

http://www.internationalpharmacy.com/browse.aspx?search=Zelnorm

Best wishes,

Sandy

>

>

> In a message dated 20/02/2007 11:39:08 GMT Standard Time,

> moppett1@... writes:

>

> he talks about the role of serotonin and acetylcholine in the

genesis of

> peristalytic action in the gut. (I used to think serotonin was only

in the

> brain and nervous system but it is also very abundant in the gut

which is why

> people taking SSRIs also gt e digestive disturbances

>

>

> Hi

>

> We have been thinking about this too recently cos one of the drugs

> recommended for by DR Krigsman is called Zelnorm. Its also

used by people with

> IBS and is supposed to have some role on Serotonin Receptors in

the gut (95%

> of our bodies Serotonin or receptors are in the gut, whoops have

forgotten,

> hubby did the research).

>

> Many people with IBS also have depression and many report that when

on this

> drug they feel better too. Makes sense to me, eg anxiety wise they

feel beetr

> should have said.

>

> This has helped s Peristalsis deffo. Its not licensed in the

UK or

> for children from what I undersatnd BTW....

>

> Thanks for posting that.

> Caroline

> xxx

>

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