enzymes -- do they work?

February 14, 2007

I started giving my daughter HNI enzymes about mid December 06. I did

follow lo and slow. She got diarrhoea. It didn't go away. In the

instructions it seems to say that diarrhoea should go away and if it

doesn't then stop. Because my daughter is 14 I decided to give it

another month just to see.

Over the new year, we went to Paris. I had been half-dreading this

because we would have to eat in restaurants. My daughter's standard diet

was porage, peanut butter sandwiches, meat and oranges. Not bad but not

easily found in restaurants. To my surprise she tucked into standard

meals. I would sit there predicting " She doesn't eat spaghetti " . She

then ate a plateful. Not just a mouthful or one strand, a plateful,

slowly over about half an hour. Pleasant.

We came home. My daughter was talking about a polar bear eating tomatoes

(don't ask). I gave her a bit to try. Last time I did this I had had a

scene which she still reminds me of. " Edith didn't like the cherry

tomato " . This time she ate it. The following day, I gave her more, and

more. Within two weeks she was eating tomato, spring onion, lettuce,

RADISH, cucumber and three sorts of peppers every day.

I sat and watched her eat it. It's normal to eat. So it was then for the

first time that I thought -- this is very abnormal for Edith. She

doesn't do this. What's changed? Well the enzymes, I thought but why

should enzymes do this. So I asked on this line -- was this co-incidence

or might it be the enzymes. And it was then that I discovered that

increasing the range of foods that a child will eat is one of the often

seen effects of enzymes.

I thought I ought to tell this story because I am a real sceptic.

Something happens -- unless I can nail it down it goes down as

co-incidence for me. In this case, I couldn't be " wishfully imagining "

the extra eating . I didn't know it was a possible or likely outcome.

Further supporting evidence -- for me -- is that my husband -- who

loves to eat -- is really thrilled. It is real extra eating, he sees it

too. We are getting through pounds of salad.

Still doesn't prove anything I guess. Could be just post hoc, not

propter hoc --- after the enzymes but not because of the enzymes. Still

I am very glad we tried the enzymes out

xx Sally

February 15, 2007

If this link works it's a picture of Eddie a day after we had worked up to the correct dose of HNI enzymes. This was the first time he had ever touched a spoon in his life. He had only previously been fed by distraction.

Sandy!

What a scrumptious little cuddle bunny boy! He's gorgeous. You should be so proud of him, well done, mum.

Darla

February 15, 2007

I would like to know why the enzymes do this but whatever the reason it's a wonderful change. (You look pretty happy too)

>I believe its because they are actively healing (as in diet is a band aid) and releasing nutrients from food as they go, feeding the body and the brain, facilitating healing in many ways. I love enzymes And what you are seeing is known as the 'happy child effect'.

We have never gotten back the full range of food choices we had before we were GFCF but you can't have everything, well not if you are me anyways LOL

Mandi x

February 15, 2007

Hi Sally,

Enzymes really changed our lives.

If this link works it's a picture of Eddie a day after we had worked up to the correct dose of HNI enzymes. This was the first time he had ever touched a spoon in his life. He had only previously been fed by distraction.

http://www.endofthetunnel.co.uk/photos/index.php?gallery=00100 & image=summer05d.jpg

He was stick thin at this point having not digested anything much for too long - we were worried sick - he hadn't been right since his measles vaccine ....

I read the enzyme book and we had nothing at all to lose - the GP was doing home visits - life was very scary. You can see it looks like I'm not holding Eddie - he had got very distressed by touch and by us being too close - it was all very difficult. We had to work out ways to balance him on our knee and hold on to his clothes. But you can see in this picture he's smiling - suddenly he was engaged and wanted to not only touch the spoon (and boy had we tried hard for months) but he wanted to play with food. We got all his little puree jars out and let him make as much mess as he wanted. He was feeding himself in no time. Who would believe enzymes could make such a change.

Best wishes,Sandy>> I started giving my daughter HNI enzymes about mid December 06. I did > follow lo and slow. She got diarrhoea. It didn't go away. In the > instructions it seems to say that diarrhoea should go away and if it > doesn't then stop. Because my daughter is 14 I decided to give it > another month just to see.> Over the new year, we went to Paris. I had been half-dreading this > because we would have to eat in restaurants. My daughter's standard diet > was porage, peanut butter sandwiches, meat and oranges. Not bad but not > easily found in restaurants. To my surprise she tucked into standard > meals. I would sit there predicting "She doesn't eat spaghetti". She > then ate a plateful. Not just a mouthful or one strand, a plateful, > slowly over about half an hour. Pleasant.> We came home. My daughter was talking about a polar bear eating tomatoes > (don't ask). I gave her a bit to try. Last time I did this I had had a > scene which she still reminds me of. "Edith didn't like the cherry > tomato". This time she ate it. The following day, I gave her more, and > more. Within two weeks she was eating tomato, spring onion, lettuce, > RADISH, cucumber and three sorts of peppers every day.> I sat and watched her eat it. It's normal to eat. So it was then for the > first time that I thought -- this is very abnormal for Edith. She > doesn't do this. What's changed? Well the enzymes, I thought but why > should enzymes do this. So I asked on this line -- was this co-incidence > or might it be the enzymes. And it was then that I discovered that > increasing the range of foods that a child will eat is one of the often > seen effects of enzymes.> > I thought I ought to tell this story because I am a real sceptic. > Something happens -- unless I can nail it down it goes down as > co-incidence for me. In this case, I couldn't be "wishfully imagining" > the extra eating . I didn't know it was a possible or likely outcome. > Further supporting evidence -- for me -- is that my husband -- who > loves to eat -- is really thrilled. It is real extra eating, he sees it > too. We are getting through pounds of salad.> > Still doesn't prove anything I guess. Could be just post hoc, not > propter hoc --- after the enzymes but not because of the enzymes. Still > I am very glad we tried the enzymes out> xx Sally>

February 15, 2007

What a beautiful baby, with such a lovely smile. He looks so happy and

as you say, engaged, looking at what is going on around him, really

noticing.

I noticed a similar "attention" moment like that -- planting cress

seeds (so that we can cut and eat them with our new found appetite). We

did it -- or rather I did it -- when I took Edith out of school about

18 months ago. I did it, I talked about it and I took photographs of it

and put them on her computer. She vaguely looked at me from time to

time. So when we did it again yesterday and she took (a lot) of

interest, I was really moved. She watered the tissue, she scattered the

seeds, she tucked the little seeds up in bed and watered them again.

I would like to know why the enzymes do this but whatever the reason

it's a wonderful change. (You look pretty happy too)

xx Sally

Sandy and Tim wrote:

Hi Sally,

Enzymes really changed our lives.

If this link works it's a picture of Eddie a day after we had

worked up to the correct dose of HNI enzymes. This was the first time

he had ever touched a spoon in his life. He had only previously been

fed by distraction.

http://www.endofthe

tunnel.co. uk/photos/ index.php? gallery=00100 & image=summer05d. jpg

He was stick thin at this point having not digested anything much

for too long - we were worried sick - he hadn't been right since his

measles vaccine ....

I read the enzyme book and we had nothing at all to lose - the GP

was doing home visits - life was very scary. You can see it looks like

I'm not holding Eddie - he had got very distressed by touch and by us

being too close - it was all very difficult. We had to work out ways

to balance him on our knee and hold on to his clothes. But you can see

in this picture he's smiling - suddenly he was engaged and wanted to

not only touch the spoon (and boy had we tried hard for months) but he

wanted to play with food. We got all his little puree jars out and let

him make as much mess as he wanted. He was feeding himself in no

time. Who would believe enzymes could make such a change.

Best wishes,

Sandy

>

> I started giving my daughter HNI enzymes about mid December 06. I

did

> follow lo and slow. She got diarrhoea. It didn't go away. In the

> instructions it seems to say that diarrhoea should go away and if

it

> doesn't then stop. Because my daughter is 14 I decided to give it

> another month just to see.

> Over the new year, we went to Paris. I had been half-dreading this

> because we would have to eat in restaurants. My daughter's

standard diet

> was porage, peanut butter sandwiches, meat and oranges. Not bad

but not

> easily found in restaurants. To my surprise she tucked into

standard

> meals. I would sit there predicting "She doesn't eat spaghetti".

She

> then ate a plateful. Not just a mouthful or one strand, a

plateful,

> slowly over about half an hour. Pleasant.

> We cae home. My daughter was talking about a polar bear eating

tomatoes

> (don't ask). I gave her a bit to try. Last time I did this I had

had a

> scene which she still reminds me of. "Edith didn't like the cherry

> tomato". This time she ate it. The following day, I gave her more,

and

> more. Within two weeks she was eating tomato, spring onion,

lettuce,

> RADISH, cucumber and three sorts of peppers every day.

> I sat and watched her eat it. It's normal to eat. So it was then

for the

> first time that I thought -- this is very abnormal for Edith. She

> doesn't do this. What's changed? Well the enzymes, I thought but

why

> should enzymes do this. So I asked on this line -- was this

co-incidence

> or might it be the enzymes. And it was then that I discovered that

> increasing the range of foods that a child will eat is one of the

often

> seen effects of enzymes.

>

> I thought I ought to tell this story because I am a ral sceptic.

> Something happens -- unless I can nail it down it goes down as

> co-incidence for me. In this case, I couldn't be "wishfully

imagining"

> the extra eating . I didn't know it was a possible or likely

outcome.

> Further supporting evidence -- for me -- is that my husband -- who

> loves to eat -- is really thrilled. It is real extra eating, he

sees it

> too. We are getting through pounds of salad.

>

> Still doesn't prove anything I guess. Could be just post hoc, not

> propter hoc --- after the enzymes but not because of the enzymes.

Still

> I am very glad we tried the enzymes out

> xx Sally

>

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February 15, 2007

Yes, I looked at all the pics. What a lovely little boy!

Margaret

>

> In a message dated 15/02/2007 20:26:06 GMT Standard Time,

> S.I.Woolley@... writes:

>

> If this link works it's a picture of Eddie a day after we had

worked up to

> the correct dose of HNI enzymes. This was the first time he had

ever touched

> a spoon in his life. He had only previously been fed by

distraction.

>

> Sandy!

> What a scrumptious little cuddle bunny boy! He's gorgeous. You

should be so

> proud of him, well done, mum.

> Darla

>

February 15, 2007

Sally?Sandy

I am so please you shared your story about Edith and her enzymes (Sorry didnt get to meet you at conference, a bit mad really there!!).

WE too found a difference in with enzymes, I have shared it beofre so wont again, it didnt clear up her bowel probs but helped heaps. We had tried Kirkmans first and they were not great but Houstons were brill.

WE could not come off the diet then with enzymes but I hope and pray that things will slowly get better i know she is in a beetter state than she was so who knows what will ahppen in future.

And Sandy what a cool story you have too, great that some things are really wow when so many other things can be a bit diosappointing really.

Luv Caroline

xx

February 15, 2007

>I believe its because they are actively healing (as in diet is a band aid) and releasing nutrients from food as they go, feeding the body and the brain, facilitating healing in many ways. I love enzymes And what you are seeing is known as the 'happy child effect'.

I agree with mandi about the healing the gut, for sure they are essential in our house, I love them and Devin kisses to you honey!!

However I also believe that for many kids Diet is also essential, we have been off it and things went insane, not saying that might always be the case, but for most starter outters I would say give diet a damn good try too.

Lotsa Luv Caroline

xxx

February 15, 2007

Thats ace Sally, so glad for you, I know what its like with a limited diet and its a nightmare, HUgs to Edith and deffo we meet next time. My article in the Express (Aberdeen one) was brill huge photo of smiley so nice, gotta buy it from them, thats why they do these stories too dontcha think they must make a fortune selling the pics to all the adoring parents afterwards.

Thanks for all your help, you have been really worth your weight in gold as me mum would say!!

Luv C

xxx

February 15, 2007

What differences did you find between the Kirkmans enzyme and Houston'senzymes. We've just started on Kirkmans, what should I be looking out for?

>>Kirkmans are more expensive, you need more for same effect and they contain kiwi which lost of kids react to. Houston are formlated by a PhD enzymeologist, Kirkman are not

Mandi x

February 16, 2007

Well I better answer this nicely, Kirkmans are rubbish and Houstons really good!!

No that was the wrong answer, we used Kirkmans for a while no effect, our daughter had very bad bowel probs, no effect, I was going to pack it in and Mnadi got me to try Houstons and the difference is night and day for us, sorry KMs dont mean to be slanderous.

This is just our expoerience and many others too.

FWIW

caroline

xxx

February 16, 2007

Hi Caroline, I looked for you at conference but it was all just too

much really. I'm trying to change her diet so that it is more GFCF

using the greater flexibility which the enzymes seem to give. Now she

eats more things than bread, meat and oranges it gets easier!!!!!!!!

Her brain may be clearing too (that's a very big work in progress)

xx Sally

CarolineTraa@... wrote:

Sally?Sandy

I am so please you shared your story about Edith and her enzymes

(Sorry didnt get to meet you at conference, a bit mad really there!!).

WE too found a difference in with enzymes, I have shared

it beofre so wont again, it didnt clear up her bowel probs but helped

heaps. We had tried Kirkmans first and they were not great but Houstons

were brill.

WE could not come off the diet then with enzymes but I hope and

pray that things will slowly get better i know she is in a beetter

state than she was so who knows what will ahppen in future.

And Sandy what a cool story you have too, great that some things

are really wow when so many other things can be a bit diosappointing

really.

Luv Caroline

xx

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February 16, 2007

>

> Hi Caroline, I looked for you at conference but it was all just too

> much really. I'm trying to change her diet so that it is more GFCF

> using the greater flexibility which the enzymes seem to give. Now she

> eats more things than bread, meat and oranges it gets easier!!!!!!!!

> Her brain may be clearing too (that's a very big work in progress)

> xx Sally

>

> CarolineTraa@... wrote:

> Sally?Sandy I am so please you shared your story about Edith and

> her enzymes (Sorry didnt get to meet you at conference, a bit mad

> really there!!). WE too found a difference in with

> enzymes, I have shared it beofre so wont again, it didnt clear up her

> bowel probs but helped heaps. We had tried Kirkmans first and they

> were not great but Houstons were brill. WE could not come off

> the diet then with enzymes but I hope and pray that things will slowly

> get better i know she is in a beetter state than she was so who knows

> what will ahppen in future. And Sandy what a cool story you have

> too, great that some things are really wow when so many other things

> can be a bit diosappointing really. Luv Caroline xx

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What differences did you find between the Kirkmans enzyme and Houston's

enzymes. We've just started on Kirkmans, what should I be looking out for?

Dawn

February 16, 2007

We used

Kirkmans Enzymaid for a while, saw no improvement but when we stopped we saw

regression. When we switched to Houston’s we saw significant improvements and no die-off so I conclude the