Re: Spots and licking hands/face rubbing

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone

Really excited about seeing you all at the conference - roll on Thursday!

Does anyone have any experience of compulsive licking of hands and rubbing them over the face and eyes? We have just finished 4 weeks of diflucan and this started during the course - we finished last wednesday but he is still doing it - he says his eyes are dry - meaning the surrounding skin. Also he broke out in spots on his face and these are not going away either. Any ideas anyone??

many thanks

Sharon x

[Guest guest]

Hi, (4) used to lick & taste everything as well as licking his

hands and then wiping them on his face. He has nearly stopped doing

this and this behaviour only re appears when he is un happy and

really 'stressed out' or when we have made a cock up with cf/gf !

we are trying to stop putting his finger up his nose at moment,

he was doing it because his nose was running. Now its stopped but the

finger up the nose has become a habit. So we are saying dont do it

because you will make your nose red & sore. It's kind of working:)

The rash on the face sounds like it is due to the 'lick' from his

hands, cold weather & central heating, has spots under his

nose!

Lara xx

I am really looking forward to Thursday too, it will be the first time

that I would have spent time away from my boys ! Got my train ticket

today

[Guest guest]

Sharon

I love this site, it makes my life seem normal The eye area is

really sensitive as the skin is v thin as well, used to like

experimenting pressing on his eyes when they were shut to see the

different 'lights' (mmm that may not make sense!)

Heres hoping Lloyd gets better soon.

Are you at Thursday drinks in bar pre meet ?

Re: train ticket I got a saver ticket for only £28 return from Kent.

I was amazed it was that reasonable bit of a mission to get a ticket

tho!

Lara x

>

> Thanks Lara - that's reassuring! Lloyd is also 4! And he has

also always

> got his finger in his right nostril - causing nosebleeds

sometimes. That's

> uncanny - so similar to . I've taken a similar tack to you

and have told

> him he is making his face really sore - which he is - and shown

him in the

> mirror - and have just resorted to putting manuka honey on his

face - it seems

> to have reduced the licking and touching - i wonder if maybe he

has really

> itchy skin - maybe an allergic reaction to one of his supplements.

Here's

> hoping it will disappear - it's the spots near his eyes i'm

worried about as he

> keeps rubbing his eye area.

>

>

> Thanks for the timely reminder to get my train ticket sorted too!

First

> time away from your boys eh? - you relax and enjoy that train

journey and the

> conference too!

>

> hope to meet you there

>

> sharon x

>

[Guest guest]

Lara

Thank you so much. Yes it is a great site - the friendliest and most helpful and informative for me as soemone new to all this too by far. The eye thing makes perfect sense. LLoyd is now saying he wants to keep his spots as they keep him company at night!! - obviously better company than his teddy! I think he means licking them is a comfort thing - it does coincide with stopping his dummy at night..mmm..... His eyes were so red last night i thought maybe it was downward tuen and i would n't be making it to the conference!

I hope to be there on Thursday night for the drinks - my train gets in at 8ish so will dash over - will look out for you!

Have my ticket now and feel like i really am going so even more excited!

Sharon x

[Guest guest]

So we are saying dont do it because you will make your nose red & sore. It's kind of working:)

Lara

One thing that might help is to rather than use language for this is just to put his finger down (eg physical prompt rather than verbal) every time he does it, avoiding eye contact... In this way he is not getting the reinforcement of you chatting to him every time he does it! In this house thats big time reinforcing... Sorry if I am preaching to the converted here!

Lotsa Luv Caroline

xxx

[Guest guest]

Thanks Caroline, he has nearly stopped now as his nose has stopped running! But that could work for other things, makes perfect sense, I will give it a go.

Physical prompts are awesome and less feedback for the child very good for negative behaviours or when your child just cannot cope with language, glad he is better.

Hugs

Caroline

xxx

[Guest guest]

Thanks Caroline, he has nearly stopped now as his nose has stopped

running! But that could work for other things, makes perfect sense, I

will give it a go.

Lara x

>

>

> In a message dated 06/02/2007 14:19:23 GMT Standard Time,

> larissahawk@... writes:

>

> So we are saying dont do it

> because you will make your nose red & sore. It's kind of working:)

>

>

>

> Lara

>

> One thing that might help is to rather than use language for this

is just to

> put his finger down (eg physical prompt rather than verbal) every

time he

> does it, avoiding eye contact... In this way he is not getting the

reinforcement

> of you chatting to him every time he does it! In this house thats

big time

> reinforcing... Sorry if I am preaching to the converted here!

>

> Lotsa Luv Caroline

> xxx

>

[Guest guest]

Caroline - thanks for that, no not preaching to the converted so very useful point - should have thought of that - will give it a go!

sharon x

[Guest guest]

A sp school teacher said to me "You can't fade out a verbal prompt".

After some thought and discussion she explained that if you always say

"Don't pick your nose" then you can't fade it out ie reduce it so that

the inner-child takes over. If on the other hand you take the child's

hand down then you may overtime be able to make a "take your hand down"

gesture across the room and eventually reduce that so that even a

meaningful look or nod will remind the child. This did actually work

with my daughter. Her LSA used to make an enormous fuss when she picked

her nose, berate her, wash her hands etc. I didn't know the theory but

I just wanted to interrupt life as little as possible so I just pulled

her hand gently back down. Quite rapidly she virtually stopped picking

her nose and could be reminded when necessary by a (small) hand gesture

across the room.

Sally

STRUIC1@... wrote:

Caroline - thanks for that, no not preaching to the converted so

very useful point - should have thought of that - will give it a go!

sharon x

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[Guest guest]

Why can't you fade out a verbal prompt? We do that all the time don't

we? Start with " don't leave your shoes there " reduce to " shoes " and

then finally " er...! " . Tom has a really great sense of guilt - he

knows exactly when he's done something wrong. In fact we can tell

because he clamps his hands over his ears when we come into the room.

A career in espionage does not beckon for him but he's in no doubt

what not to do! He just doesn't give a monkeys.

[Guest guest]

All right I give in, you can.

xx Sally

stephaniesirr wrote:

Why can't you fade out a verbal prompt? We do that all the time

don't

we? Start with "don't leave your shoes there" reduce to "shoes" and

then finally "er...!". Tom has a really great sense of guilt - he

knows exactly when he's done something wrong. In fact we can tell

because he clamps his hands over his ears when we come into the room.

A career in espionage does not beckon for him but he's in no doubt

what not to do! He just doesn't give a monkeys.

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[Guest guest]

Blimey ! exactly the same here....what 'bad articles' we have! Usually

hands over the ears with a smile on his face..

>

> Why can't you fade out a verbal prompt? We do that all the time don't

> we? Start with " don't leave your shoes there " reduce to " shoes " and

> then finally " er...! " . Tom has a really great sense of guilt - he

> knows exactly when he's done something wrong. In fact we can tell

> because he clamps his hands over his ears when we come into the room.

> A career in espionage does not beckon for him but he's in no doubt

> what not to do! He just doesn't give a monkeys.

>

[Guest guest]

But that whole cheeky monkey thing is positive I think, just like

Tom's terrible flirting is a good sign. It's not very typically

autistic behaviour as it requires a degree of imagination - and an

understanding of what effect your behaviour might have on others and

theirs on you. Tom was just a total tart during his consult with Dr

Usman. I know she's very pretty but blimey, his eyelashes were causing

a real draft!

> >

> > Why can't you fade out a verbal prompt? We do that all the time don't

> > we? Start with " don't leave your shoes there " reduce to " shoes " and

> > then finally " er...! " . Tom has a really great sense of guilt - he

> > knows exactly when he's done something wrong. In fact we can tell

> > because he clamps his hands over his ears when we come into the room.

> > A career in espionage does not beckon for him but he's in no doubt

> > what not to do! He just doesn't give a monkeys.

> >

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