Re: Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

[Guest guest]

LoL, I used to eat Toaster Strudels frozen too!

Question, how come you have that in your house? If you have kids and they are

for them... Well... I just know growing up I was annoyed with my mom because we

didn't have chips and cookies and poptarts and all this other crap in the house

all the time... Everyone once in awhile as a treat we would get poptarts or

toaster strudels, but it wasn't a common occurance. And I am SO greatful for

that. I was fat enough as it was, she wouldn't have been doing me any favors

having junk in the house all day... plus she knew she would eat it if it was

here lol

Oh, and I keep having reoccurring nightmares about bingeing... Two night ago it

was on Taco Bell and other food, and last night it was on frosting and graham

crackers... And my dad Iin my dream) was just standing there watching me eat and

said 'Oh, is today your free day?' LOL

And I'm terrified when I wake up that it's not going to be a dream. Yeah I'm

crazy like that

But anyway, I most DEFINITELY used to have a problem with eating like crazy at

night.. it's just when I'm the most hungry! And, I say used to because lucky

for me, when I'm dieting, I'm dieting. When I have a workout schedule, that's

what I do. But it's when I stop doing it and i try to still incorporate some

ideas but eat whatever I really want that it all goes to hell lol. I just need

to be 100% on or 100% off something. Which is ok for now while I'm doing

challenges, but I know will be hard when I try to make this a way of life.

Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

OK, does anyone ever have this happen to them? Eat clean all day and then

totally lose it in the evening?

I came home from work a little stressed out -- easy, fun work shift except for

blowing a circuit breaker, having to find which one and turn it back on hoping

not to blow up the place; but my first time closing the gym, had to count and

re-count the cash register, finally got it right, left a note for the morning

person to call me if it was still off; left, got 100 yards and got a compulsion

to go recheck that the doors were locked, drove back and they were but I had

left the computer monitor on, let myself back in and turned it off, re-locked,

drove away, thought about going back to recheck the locks but knocked myself

upside the head and told myself to quit acting like this; a mile from home I

realized I'd forgotten to turn off the treadmills and ellipticals, resisted the

urge to drive all the way back and do it. I get like this; I have

obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is nicely controlled by meds, but which can

break through when I'm having performance anxiety. (w/o the meds I'd have driven

back and forth a million times, or just saved time by rechecking the doors that

many times without driving in between.)

Anyway.... got home around 9:30 pm, decided to go to bed early. I have

sleep/nerve med I'm supposed to take when I'm stressed out. I was due for a

meal, though, so I took the meds, intending to go to bed as soon as I ate.

Problem is.... if I stay up too long after taking this stuff, I get into this

weird eating mode. Stress, anxiety, and my OCD also put me into weird eating

mode. I should have known I was in the red zone, had cottage cheese and fruit,

and gone to bed.

Well. While waiting for soup to heat in the microwave, I found chicken wings

in the fridge that my husband had left, and thought, well, the soup doesn't have

enough protein anyway, and tore into the wings. Then discovered chicken salad

and had a little of that (to give you an honest picture, I had set the mike for

3 minutes, and it was still going.) Decided some of the chicken salad would be

good to " soup up " the chicken-noodle soup and mixed in half a cup. Then decided

I was too high on protein and had some pretzels with the soup. Then my binge

mode was triggered and got into our granddaughter's animal crackers (unmeasured,

ate them out of the bag.) Then got into my husband's Toaster Strudels and had 2

of those... one nicely toasted, although I put butter and syrup on it like a

pancake, and then wanted another one but was starting to put on the brakes, kind

of feebly... I opened the freezer and got one but stopped short of toasting it,

but instead of putting it back I ATE THE DARN THING FROZEN right out of the

freezer.

This was a combination of stress, meds, and just being hungry. By then I was

about falling asleep so I went to bed.

Lessons Learned: Plan meals, don't wing it. When stressed, don't make meals

that have any preparation time or waiting time... even 3 minutes in the

microwave. Don't stay up for a meal after taking meds. Take post-work meal to

work and eat it on the way home, THEN take meds if needed, THEN go right to bed.

I'm debating logging this binge on my yesterday's FitDay (I usually don't log

binges) just to see how it panned out number-wise and to have it there for God

and the world to see -- yes, it's real, this is what Ellie Hamilton eats when

she's having an OCD attack and takes meds and then stays up and eats.

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed to get this off my chest. Maybe it will

help and next time I will actually follow the Lessons Learned.

Ellie

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellie - 2 things come to mind -

1> as Geneen Roth (writer about emotional overreating) says, " when you eat

the fridge, pull up a chair "

2> I like the pun you made (unintentionally?) about " chicken wings " and

" don't wing it "

n

At 11:28 AM 6/8/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP>

>Well. While waiting for soup to heat in the microwave, I found chicken

>wings in the fridge that my husband had left, <SNIP>

>Lessons Learned: Plan meals, don't wing it. <SNIP>

[Guest guest]

Even though I'm quite in control of my food these days, sometimes I'll see

something half-eaten on my kitchen counter (that's off-plan food), and I'll

ask my husband and daughters - " did one of you leave that there, or did I

eat half of it and not know that I did it? "

Fortunately, it's always been them. Makes sense actually; if it had been

me, there wouldn't be any left!

We have a wide variety of stuff - healthy and non-healthy - in the

house. My daughters and husband don't have any trouble with portion

control, and I don't have a problem with it being part of their

daily/weekly intake.

n

At 03:40 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:

>And I'm terrified when I wake up that it's not going to be a dream. Yeah

>I'm crazy like that

[Guest guest]

Oh I've been there Ellie and I know how bad you feel once the binge subsides.

It's like eating in a haze without thinking about what you're doing until it's

too late. I'm glad that you've learned lessons from it and made a plan for next

time! Good luck!

Ellie wrote: OK, does anyone ever have this happen

to them? Eat clean all day and then totally lose it in the evening?

I came home from work a little stressed out -- easy, fun work shift except for

blowing a circuit breaker, having to find which one and turn it back on hoping

not to blow up the place; but my first time closing the gym, had to count and

re-count the cash register, finally got it right, left a note for the morning

person to call me if it was still off; left, got 100 yards and got a compulsion

to go recheck that the doors were locked, drove back and they were but I had

left the computer monitor on, let myself back in and turned it off, re-locked,

drove away, thought about going back to recheck the locks but knocked myself

upside the head and told myself to quit acting like this; a mile from home I

realized I'd forgotten to turn off the treadmills and ellipticals, resisted the

urge to drive all the way back and do it. I get like this; I have

obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is nicely controlled by meds, but which can

break through when I'm having performance anxiety. (w/o

the meds I'd have driven back and forth a million times, or just saved time by

rechecking the doors that many times without driving in between.)

Anyway.... got home around 9:30 pm, decided to go to bed early. I have

sleep/nerve med I'm supposed to take when I'm stressed out. I was due for a

meal, though, so I took the meds, intending to go to bed as soon as I ate.

Problem is.... if I stay up too long after taking this stuff, I get into this

weird eating mode. Stress, anxiety, and my OCD also put me into weird eating

mode. I should have known I was in the red zone, had cottage cheese and fruit,

and gone to bed.

Well. While waiting for soup to heat in the microwave, I found chicken wings in

the fridge that my husband had left, and thought, well, the soup doesn't have

enough protein anyway, and tore into the wings. Then discovered chicken salad

and had a little of that (to give you an honest picture, I had set the mike for

3 minutes, and it was still going.) Decided some of the chicken salad would be

good to " soup up " the chicken-noodle soup and mixed in half a cup. Then decided

I was too high on protein and had some pretzels with the soup. Then my binge

mode was triggered and got into our granddaughter's animal crackers (unmeasured,

ate them out of the bag.) Then got into my husband's Toaster Strudels and had 2

of those... one nicely toasted, although I put butter and syrup on it like a

pancake, and then wanted another one but was starting to put on the brakes, kind

of feebly... I opened the freezer and got one but stopped short of toasting it,

but instead of putting it back I ATE

THE DARN THING FROZEN right out of the freezer.

This was a combination of stress, meds, and just being hungry. By then I was

about falling asleep so I went to bed.

Lessons Learned: Plan meals, don't wing it. When stressed, don't make meals that

have any preparation time or waiting time... even 3 minutes in the microwave.

Don't stay up for a meal after taking meds. Take post-work meal to work and eat

it on the way home, THEN take meds if needed, THEN go right to bed.

I'm debating logging this binge on my yesterday's FitDay (I usually don't log

binges) just to see how it panned out number-wise and to have it there for God

and the world to see -- yes, it's real, this is what Ellie Hamilton eats when

she's having an OCD attack and takes meds and then stays up and eats.

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed to get this off my chest. Maybe it will

help and next time I will actually follow the Lessons Learned.

Ellie

[Guest guest]

I'm very black and white too . That has been the hardest thing for me to

try to overcome. My whole life, I've gone through phases of either overeating or

undereating; overtraining or sitting on my butt. Right now, with the extra

calories and with eating 6-7 times a day, I am finding that the old urges to

binge are truly going away, b/c then I won't have room for good, healthy foods

that my body needs. I am yet to get to the point where I allow myself to have

something " bad " though, b/c I am afraid it will set off the trigger in me that

I've " blown " it

E wrote: LoL, I used to eat Toaster

Strudels frozen too!

Question, how come you have that in your house? If you have kids and they are

for them... Well... I just know growing up I was annoyed with my mom because we

didn't have chips and cookies and poptarts and all this other crap in the house

all the time... Everyone once in awhile as a treat we would get poptarts or

toaster strudels, but it wasn't a common occurance. And I am SO greatful for

that. I was fat enough as it was, she wouldn't have been doing me any favors

having junk in the house all day... plus she knew she would eat it if it was

here lol

Oh, and I keep having reoccurring nightmares about bingeing... Two night ago it

was on Taco Bell and other food, and last night it was on frosting and graham

crackers... And my dad Iin my dream) was just standing there watching me eat and

said 'Oh, is today your free day?' LOL

And I'm terrified when I wake up that it's not going to be a dream. Yeah I'm

crazy like that

But anyway, I most DEFINITELY used to have a problem with eating like crazy at

night.. it's just when I'm the most hungry! And, I say used to because lucky for

me, when I'm dieting, I'm dieting. When I have a workout schedule, that's what I

do. But it's when I stop doing it and i try to still incorporate some ideas but

eat whatever I really want that it all goes to hell lol. I just need to be 100%

on or 100% off something. Which is ok for now while I'm doing challenges, but I

know will be hard when I try to make this a way of life.

Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

OK, does anyone ever have this happen to them? Eat clean all day and then

totally lose it in the evening?

I came home from work a little stressed out -- easy, fun work shift except for

blowing a circuit breaker, having to find which one and turn it back on hoping

not to blow up the place; but my first time closing the gym, had to count and

re-count the cash register, finally got it right, left a note for the morning

person to call me if it was still off; left, got 100 yards and got a compulsion

to go recheck that the doors were locked, drove back and they were but I had

left the computer monitor on, let myself back in and turned it off, re-locked,

drove away, thought about going back to recheck the locks but knocked myself

upside the head and told myself to quit acting like this; a mile from home I

realized I'd forgotten to turn off the treadmills and ellipticals, resisted the

urge to drive all the way back and do it. I get like this; I have

obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is nicely controlled by meds, but which can

break through when I'm having performance anxiety. (w/o

the meds I'd have driven back and forth a million times, or just saved time by

rechecking the doors that many times without driving in between.)

Anyway.... got home around 9:30 pm, decided to go to bed early. I have

sleep/nerve med I'm supposed to take when I'm stressed out. I was due for a

meal, though, so I took the meds, intending to go to bed as soon as I ate.

Problem is.... if I stay up too long after taking this stuff, I get into this

weird eating mode. Stress, anxiety, and my OCD also put me into weird eating

mode. I should have known I was in the red zone, had cottage cheese and fruit,

and gone to bed.

Well. While waiting for soup to heat in the microwave, I found chicken wings in

the fridge that my husband had left, and thought, well, the soup doesn't have

enough protein anyway, and tore into the wings. Then discovered chicken salad

and had a little of that (to give you an honest picture, I had set the mike for

3 minutes, and it was still going.) Decided some of the chicken salad would be

good to " soup up " the chicken-noodle soup and mixed in half a cup. Then decided

I was too high on protein and had some pretzels with the soup. Then my binge

mode was triggered and got into our granddaughter's animal crackers (unmeasured,

ate them out of the bag.) Then got into my husband's Toaster Strudels and had 2

of those... one nicely toasted, although I put butter and syrup on it like a

pancake, and then wanted another one but was starting to put on the brakes, kind

of feebly... I opened the freezer and got one but stopped short of toasting it,

but instead of putting it back I ATE

THE DARN THING FROZEN right out of the freezer.

This was a combination of stress, meds, and just being hungry. By then I was

about falling asleep so I went to bed.

Lessons Learned: Plan meals, don't wing it. When stressed, don't make meals that

have any preparation time or waiting time... even 3 minutes in the microwave.

Don't stay up for a meal after taking meds. Take post-work meal to work and eat

it on the way home, THEN take meds if needed, THEN go right to bed.

I'm debating logging this binge on my yesterday's FitDay (I usually don't log

binges) just to see how it panned out number-wise and to have it there for God

and the world to see -- yes, it's real, this is what Ellie Hamilton eats when

she's having an OCD attack and takes meds and then stays up and eats.

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed to get this off my chest. Maybe it will

help and next time I will actually follow the Lessons Learned.

Ellie

[Guest guest]

Hehe exactly, if I saw a half eaten poptart I would KNOW it wasn't from me hehe

That's so wonderful that your family knows portion control... That of course the

#1 fundamental thing to learn to maintain weight, so bravo to them!

I on the other hand, am now craving an entire box of cherry poptarts...

nnooooooo!!!!

Re: Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

Even though I'm quite in control of my food these days, sometimes I'll see

something half-eaten on my kitchen counter (that's off-plan food), and I'll

ask my husband and daughters - " did one of you leave that there, or did I

eat half of it and not know that I did it? "

Fortunately, it's always been them. Makes sense actually; if it had been

me, there wouldn't be any left!

We have a wide variety of stuff - healthy and non-healthy - in the

house. My daughters and husband don't have any trouble with portion

control, and I don't have a problem with it being part of their

daily/weekly intake.

n

At 03:40 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:

>And I'm terrified when I wake up that it's not going to be a dream. Yeah

>I'm crazy like that

[Guest guest]

I totally understand the 'i've blown it' trigger... And it's kind of freaking me

out that I have nightmares about bingeing, and I literally feel that horrible

guilty feeling in my dreams... But isn't it weird how one mistake can make you

feel like you messed up the whole day? Uuuggg... I have such a complex with

food he he

Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

OK, does anyone ever have this happen to them? Eat clean all day and then

totally lose it in the evening?

I came home from work a little stressed out -- easy, fun work shift except for

blowing a circuit breaker, having to find which one and turn it back on hoping

not to blow up the place; but my first time closing the gym, had to count and

re-count the cash register, finally got it right, left a note for the morning

person to call me if it was still off; left, got 100 yards and got a compulsion

to go recheck that the doors were locked, drove back and they were but I had

left the computer monitor on, let myself back in and turned it off, re-locked,

drove away, thought about going back to recheck the locks but knocked myself

upside the head and told myself to quit acting like this; a mile from home I

realized I'd forgotten to turn off the treadmills and ellipticals, resisted the

urge to drive all the way back and do it. I get like this; I have

obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is nicely controlled by meds, but which can

break through when I'm having performance anxiety. (w/o

the meds I'd have driven back and forth a million times, or just saved time by

rechecking the doors that many times without driving in between.)

Anyway.... got home around 9:30 pm, decided to go to bed early. I have

sleep/nerve med I'm supposed to take when I'm stressed out. I was due for a

meal, though, so I took the meds, intending to go to bed as soon as I ate.

Problem is.... if I stay up too long after taking this stuff, I get into this

weird eating mode. Stress, anxiety, and my OCD also put me into weird eating

mode. I should have known I was in the red zone, had cottage cheese and fruit,

and gone to bed.

Well. While waiting for soup to heat in the microwave, I found chicken wings

in the fridge that my husband had left, and thought, well, the soup doesn't have

enough protein anyway, and tore into the wings. Then discovered chicken salad

and had a little of that (to give you an honest picture, I had set the mike for

3 minutes, and it was still going.) Decided some of the chicken salad would be

good to " soup up " the chicken-noodle soup and mixed in half a cup. Then decided

I was too high on protein and had some pretzels with the soup. Then my binge

mode was triggered and got into our granddaughter's animal crackers (unmeasured,

ate them out of the bag.) Then got into my husband's Toaster Strudels and had 2

of those... one nicely toasted, although I put butter and syrup on it like a

pancake, and then wanted another one but was starting to put on the brakes, kind

of feebly... I opened the freezer and got one but stopped short of toasting it,

but instead of putting it back I ATE

THE DARN THING FROZEN right out of the freezer.

This was a combination of stress, meds, and just being hungry. By then I was

about falling asleep so I went to bed.

Lessons Learned: Plan meals, don't wing it. When stressed, don't make meals

that have any preparation time or waiting time... even 3 minutes in the

microwave. Don't stay up for a meal after taking meds. Take post-work meal to

work and eat it on the way home, THEN take meds if needed, THEN go right to bed.

I'm debating logging this binge on my yesterday's FitDay (I usually don't log

binges) just to see how it panned out number-wise and to have it there for God

and the world to see -- yes, it's real, this is what Ellie Hamilton eats when

she's having an OCD attack and takes meds and then stays up and eats.

Thanks for letting me vent. I needed to get this off my chest. Maybe it will

help and next time I will actually follow the Lessons Learned.

Ellie

[Guest guest]

Thanks, girls! I appreciate the understanding!

I have Toaster Strudels and chicken wings in the house b/c of my husband. Maybe

I should say, *he* has them in the house. We don't have kids at home anymore,

but we do have some stuff like animal crackers for our granddaughter (age 3, the

youngest of 3 grands, the other two 7 and 10.) She dips them in yogurt for a

bedtime snack.

I'm off to the races -- Hatfield-McCoy Marathon in KY tomorrow. I have a sore

foot (from hiking, not running, been troublesome for 3 weeks) that I'm concerned

about. It doesn't hurt much to run on, only to walk on. But I haven't tried

running 26 miles on it. If it seems to be getting more injured, I'll bail. It's

not worth really screwing it up and then being out for 6 weeks. If I don't

finish the distance it will be my first DNF (Did Not Finish, or, in runners'

jargon, Do Nothing Foolish) in my 21 marathons. If I run carefully, it may very

well be OK. Cross your fingers (or toes) for me!

Bye till Sunday...

Ellie

Re: Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

I totally understand the 'i've blown it' trigger... And it's kind of freaking

me out that I have nightmares about bingeing, and I literally feel that horrible

guilty feeling in my dreams... But isn't it weird how one mistake can make you

feel like you messed up the whole day? Uuuggg... I have such a complex with

food he he

[Guest guest]

Ellie, I used to binge a fair amount when I cut calories too low.

Even eating 6 small meals a day I would still feel hungry (at night is

the worst) and sometimes I'd just blow it and inhale everything around

me. This didnt always have to be the worst food around, if I put my

mind to it (or maybe I just went into autopilot), I could eat a

truckload of healthy nuts, raisins, peanut butter, yogurt, and whole

wheat toast. By themselves, these wouldnt be junk food but in binge

proportions, I was definitely not doing my physique or psyche any

favours.

Only until I upped my calories a bit at each meal (so I never felt

starving), and made sure I consumed boatloads of veggies and high

fiber foods like beans and fresh fruit, did my binges go away. I

always feel like I *need* dessert, so I usually have sugarfree hot

cocoa at night or sugarfree jello, and then all is happy in the world.

Don't beat yourself up too much. This happens to everyone. The trick

is figuring out how to stop it from happening, or minimize the damage

by having a small portion. This is easier said than done, though,

because you will need to figure out what works for you. Try to move

on and get back on the plan. A binge every so often won't be the end

of your progress, but falling off the plan most of the time will.

And I also understand that you can't have a house only full of BFL

approved foods. My husband brings in tons of treats, which I do not

eat. He and the kids have some kind of dessert every night (I stick

to cocoa). Right now we have oreos, glazed donuts, chocolate ice

cream and freezies at home. It makes it more challenging for me, but

I actually don't crave this stuff at all anymore. In fact, I know it

will make me feel sick to my stomach if I eat it, so I take a pass.

And if the food wasnt in your house, you still have to come up with a

way of managing treats into your nutrition program because they will

be there at family functions, meals at restaurants and the office.

>>>>> > I have Toaster Strudels and chicken wings in the house b/c of

my husband. Maybe I should say, *he* has them in the house. We don't

have kids at home anymore, but we do have some stuff like animal

crackers for our granddaughter (age 3, the youngest of 3 grands, the

other two 7 and 10.) She dips them in yogurt for a bedtime snack.

[Guest guest]

Kudo's to you guys who live with that kind of temptation all day

long. I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

cheese/cardboard combo.

--

I live alone w/ my dog (who's cookies dont tempt me)

> >And I also understand that you can't have a house only full of BFL

> >approved foods. My husband brings in tons of treats, which I do

not

> >eat. He and the kids have some kind of dessert every night (I

stick

> >to cocoa). Right now we have oreos, glazed donuts, chocolate ice

> >cream and freezies at home.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....and that tempts you, does it? Yeah, just thinking about cardboard

makes me drool! Hmmm, I bet the fiber content is pretty high--you might

be OK if you just eat the cardboard.

Naomi

******

beijobear wrote:

I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

cheese/cardboard combo.

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean beijo! That grease seeps right into the cardboard! I

honestly can't remember the last time I ate pizza. It really doesn't tempt me

anymore. I think it would give my stomach problems

DRAGONMAMMA wrote: ...and that tempts you, does

it? Yeah, just thinking about cardboard

makes me drool! Hmmm, I bet the fiber content is pretty high--you might

be OK if you just eat the cardboard.

Naomi

******

beijobear wrote:

I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

cheese/cardboard combo.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

LOL! Well I'm glad SOMEONE knows what the hell I'm talking

about...its a memory trigger of good times, eating pizza out of a

box in a car at the drive-in or something fun ;0(

(i didnt even make eye contact with the deliveryman- just pointed

him down the hall)

--

>

> I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

> ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

> cheese/cardboard combo.

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

LoL! I walked in the house from work to the smell of pizza and margaritas! AH!

I made protien muffins and hid in my room.

Re: Binge -- quite detailed, sorry...

Kudo's to you guys who live with that kind of temptation all day

long. I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

cheese/cardboard combo.

--

I live alone w/ my dog (who's cookies dont tempt me)

> >And I also understand that you can't have a house only full of BFL

> >approved foods. My husband brings in tons of treats, which I do

not

> >eat. He and the kids have some kind of dessert every night (I

stick

> >to cocoa). Right now we have oreos, glazed donuts, chocolate ice

> >cream and freezies at home.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

But think of all the grease that gets into the cardboard! Altho, that might

make it more edible...

Re: Re: Binge -- quite detailed,

sorry...

...and that tempts you, does it? Yeah, just thinking about cardboard

makes me drool! Hmmm, I bet the fiber content is pretty high--you might

be OK if you just eat the cardboard.

Naomi

******

beijobear wrote:

I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

cheese/cardboard combo.

-->

[Guest guest]

i was just cleaning pizza grease out of my son's shorts

spot cleaning with dishwashing soap, works really well,

then machine was in cold/cool water so as not to set the stain

air dry and repeat if the stain is still there

> But think of all the grease that gets into the cardboard! Altho,

> that might make it more edible...

>

> Re: Re: Binge -- quite

> detailed, sorry...

>

>

> ...and that tempts you, does it? Yeah, just thinking about cardboard

> makes me drool! Hmmm, I bet the fiber content is pretty high--you

> might

> be OK if you just eat the cardboard.

>

> Naomi

> ******

>

> beijobear wrote:

>

> I honestly don't know if I could do it. Someone says " we're

> ordering pizza " at the office, and I can already smell the

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That's it exactly, Tara! Like being in some kind of daze or haze,

not totally conscious -- especially when that's actually th case, to

a certain extent, because of a medication. I've told my doctor that

that med brings on carbohydrate binges and he said, " So go to bed

right after you take it. " Men think they know everything :-)

-- thanks for the tip on slightly more calories per meal.

Although I don't necessarily have to be feeling hungry to start

bingeing, maybe it's like some kind of emergency-prevention mode --

hunger is about to set in so eat the refrigerator first.

Speaking of which -- n -- cute about pulling up a chair, which

might even help set a portion (or time) limit; also, nice pickup on

the chicken-wing pun, which I did not catch myself :-)

and everyone else -- thanks again for the support!

My BFL book came today. Now I can take the library copy back :-)

Ellie

OK, does anyone ever have this

happen to them? Eat clean all day and then totally lose it in the

evening?