Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 have got a feeling that WEllington Square is for remedial readers ie older kids who find it hard to read but are otherwise all there mentally. >>this is correct Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 How old is ? We spent ages learning sound/letter relationships then we taught my daughter to read using very old (1950s) phonic readers. Very old, very slow and very concrete. Then backed this up with sight reading -- flash cards etc. She learned very thoroughly. Dyslexia material uses many of the old techniques. We finally used a Ginn series (which we already had for my older daughter so we didn't choose it particularly) to enjoy reading and check comprehension. it had very simple stories plus factual stuff. I have got a feeling that WEllington Square is for remedial readers ie older kids who find it hard to read but are otherwise all there mentally. So the content is challenging but the language in which it is expressed is basic? One of the revelations to me was to realise that commercial reading schemes are designed to sell (!!!!) not to teach reading. So they may be good at the former but not the latter Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: HI everyone, This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would be better to mail offline then my address is Elaine.rankin@ mindless. com is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn’t enjoy it and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about things that he likes. Or about his family etc… OR Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. OR Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and then write stories. OR Teach blending. Thanks Elaine -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Elaine We found the best way for us was to think about first words. Most NT kids have a list and to from me etc.. Our kids recognise - Toys r us /Asda / Macdonalds the tank / their own name We wrote our own stories .. best to get their interest. Darryl and Mum and Darryl Darryl and went to asda Darryl went to the park etc. Darryl went to toys r us. Built him up..he got concept about reading.. We expanded on that. He is also doing oxford reading tree book scheme which is great. Have recently got a thomas the tank reading scheme so you cant beat that ! Joanne > > HI everyone, > > This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would > be better to mail offline then my address is > > Elaine.rankin@... > > > is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn't enjoy it > and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men > etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading > schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check > comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve > on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? > > * Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the > is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about > things that he likes. Or about his family etc… > > OR > > * Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean > something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. > > OR > > * Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and > then write stories. > > OR > > * Teach blending. > > > Thanks > > Elaine > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 > 14:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Eva, is 9 and has poor expressive language and better receptive language. We work on a schedule basis during his ABA sessions because he like to know what is happening and a lot of that is written. He can also read number words, colours and a little more. He knows the alphabet phonetically and can tell you the beginning sounds and play eye spy really quite well. I agree with your Wellington square comments. The reason I would like a reading scheme is he usually enjoys reading. I do feel that flashcards would be good as you could check comprehension with simple matching etc… It is just that (as I am sure you know all too well) I have to be careful with the school and make it look like a joint decision. They have been very good recently and we even managed to get one of my tutors in twice a week until March and so if I can come up with a few good options and then they make the final decision I win on all counts. They are very keen to use books because he likes them so much. I will google Ginn books. Elaine From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Eva family Sent: 30 January 2007 16:31 Autism Treatment Subject: Re: Reading scheme How old is ? We spent ages learning sound/letter relationships then we taught my daughter to read using very old (1950s) phonic readers. Very old, very slow and very concrete. Then backed this up with sight reading -- flash cards etc. She learned very thoroughly. Dyslexia material uses many of the old techniques. We finally used a Ginn series (which we already had for my older daughter so we didn't choose it particularly) to enjoy reading and check comprehension. it had very simple stories plus factual stuff. I have got a feeling that WEllington Square is for remedial readers ie older kids who find it hard to read but are otherwise all there mentally. So the content is challenging but the language in which it is expressed is basic? One of the revelations to me was to realise that commercial reading schemes are designed to sell (!!!!) not to teach reading. So they may be good at the former but not the latter Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: HI everyone, This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would be better to mail offline then my address is Elaine.rankin@ mindless. com is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn’t enjoy it and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about things that he likes. Or about his family etc… OR Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. OR Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and then write stories. OR Teach blending. Thanks Elaine -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Oxford Reading Tree - including the DVD which incorporates lots of written words Also we always put the captions on for DVDs so that the words to The Incredibles or whatever are visible whilst they're talking. Leappad do books on popular themes - can get them cheaper now on Ebay. the Tank, Pooh Bear, Incredibles, Finding Nemo. I hate them but schools all swear by Jolly Phonics - my younger son does Jolly Phonics at school and he learnt to read very quickly. As the name suggests, it breaks words up into phonics and there is a little movement you make with each to remember it by. Not my cup of tea but then I'm not 6 and not in the best mood after my encounter with Social services and Pringlegate. Also there is a book on www.difflearn.com under the books section (unsurprisingly) that is about the most useful words to teach children to say. That might be useful for reading too, depending on what level he's at. Steph x > > HI everyone, > > This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would > be better to mail offline then my address is > > Elaine.rankin@... > > > is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn't enjoy it > and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men > etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading > schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check > comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve > on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? > > * Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the > is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about > things that he likes. Or about his family etc… > > OR > > * Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean > something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. > > OR > > * Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and > then write stories. > > OR > > * Teach blending. > > > Thanks > > Elaine > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 > 14:49 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Yes, otherwise Oxford Reading Tree sounds good. Did I sound fierce? I didn't mean to. This was one of my successes. I think I must have the only autistic child in Southwark who can read. The adviser was always commenting on the fact that she could read and how I had done it. The answer is very phonically and very thoroughly. Well done with the school I'm called Sally xx Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: Hi Eva, is 9 and has poor expressive language and better receptive language. We work on a schedule basis during his ABA sessions because he like to know what is happening and a lot of that is written. He can also read number words, colours and a little more. He knows the alphabet phonetically and can tell you the beginning sounds and play eye spy really quite well. I agree with your Wellington square comments. The reason I would like a reading scheme is he usually enjoys reading. I do feel that flashcards would be good as you could check comprehension with simple matching etc… It is just that (as I am sure you know all too well) I have to be careful with the school and make it look like a joint decision. They have been very good recently and we even managed to get one of my tutors in twice a week until March and so if I can come up with a few good options and then they make the final decision I win on all counts. They are very keen to use books because he likes them so much. I will google Ginn books. Elaine From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com [mailto: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com ] On Behalf Of Eva family Sent: 30 January 2007 16:31 Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com Subject: Re: Reading scheme How old is ? We spent ages learning sound/letter relationships then we taught my daughter to read using very old (1950s) phonic readers. Very old, very slow and very concrete. Then backed this up with sight reading -- flash cards etc. She learned very thoroughly. Dyslexia material uses many of the old techniques. We finally used a Ginn series (which we already had for my older daughter so we didn't choose it particularly) to enjoy reading and check comprehension. it had very simple stories plus factual stuff. I have got a feeling that WEllington Square is for remedial readers ie older kids who find it hard to read but are otherwise all there mentally. So the content is challenging but the language in which it is expressed is basic? One of the revelations to me was to realise that commercial reading schemes are designed to sell (!!!!) not to teach reading. So they may be good at the former but not the latter Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: HI everyone, This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would be better to mail offline then my address is Elaine.rankin@ mindless. com is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn’t enjoy it and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about things that he likes. Or about his family etc… OR Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. OR Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and then write stories. OR Teach blending. Thanks Elaine -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Sally, You didn’t sound fierce. Did you mean to? Your ideas were good, thanks. We have tried ORT in the past and just didn’t ‘get it’. I think even that was too abstract. I am going to make up a couple of books this evening and send them into school and see what they think. Maybe these will be a prerequisite to a reading scheme. Thanks to everyone for your comments. Elaine From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Eva family Sent: 30 January 2007 17:16 Autism Treatment Subject: Re: Reading scheme Yes, otherwise Oxford Reading Tree sounds good. Did I sound fierce? I didn't mean to. This was one of my successes. I think I must have the only autistic child in Southwark who can read. The adviser was always commenting on the fact that she could read and how I had done it. The answer is very phonically and very thoroughly. Well done with the school I'm called Sally xx Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: Hi Eva, is 9 and has poor expressive language and better receptive language. We work on a schedule basis during his ABA sessions because he like to know what is happening and a lot of that is written. He can also read number words, colours and a little more. He knows the alphabet phonetically and can tell you the beginning sounds and play eye spy really quite well. I agree with your Wellington square comments. The reason I would like a reading scheme is he usually enjoys reading. I do feel that flashcards would be good as you could check comprehension with simple matching etc… It is just that (as I am sure you know all too well) I have to be careful with the school and make it look like a joint decision. They have been very good recently and we even managed to get one of my tutors in twice a week until March and so if I can come up with a few good options and then they make the final decision I win on all counts. They are very keen to use books because he likes them so much. I will google Ginn books. Elaine From: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com [mailto: Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com ] On Behalf Of Eva family Sent: 30 January 2007 16:31 Autism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.com Subject: Re: [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Reading scheme How old is ? We spent ages learning sound/letter relationships then we taught my daughter to read using very old (1950s) phonic readers. Very old, very slow and very concrete. Then backed this up with sight reading -- flash cards etc. She learned very thoroughly. Dyslexia material uses many of the old techniques. We finally used a Ginn series (which we already had for my older daughter so we didn't choose it particularly) to enjoy reading and check comprehension. it had very simple stories plus factual stuff. I have got a feeling that WEllington Square is for remedial readers ie older kids who find it hard to read but are otherwise all there mentally. So the content is challenging but the language in which it is expressed is basic? One of the revelations to me was to realise that commercial reading schemes are designed to sell (!!!!) not to teach reading. So they may be good at the former but not the latter Sally Elaine Rankin wrote: HI everyone, This is not a biomed question. Sorry for taking up the space. If it would be better to mail offline then my address is Elaine.rankin@ mindless. com is on reading scheme called Wellington square, but doesn’t enjoy it and it is a bit abstract ( the first book is about moving house, removal men etc). My question is do any of your children have good concrete reading schemes that are not abstract. If not how do you teach reading and check comprehension? can site read some words and we would like to improve on this. I have some ideas below, what do you think? Write our own stories using core words that he should learn at the is stage eg I, can, we etc.. but write them into interesting stories about things that he likes. Or about his family etc… OR Teach words that he could use every day eg on his schedule and mean something eg gym time, lunch time, home time and so on. OR Teach every day words eg apple, bus, toilet, shop, car etc…..and then write stories. OR Teach blending. Thanks Elaine -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 14:49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 --- I attented the Special Needs Fringe in London a couple of weeks ago (part of the BETT at Olympia - all related to IT for education). Son is Dyslexic and was looking for specific software packages to help. I have found something called LEXION which many people at conference were getting very excited about and from my limited knowledge is excellent. My sister has just started using with an ASD boy she supports as an LSA and is v impressed with progress in two weeks. I wanted to get a bit more experience with it before passing it on but as the topic came up seemed a good opportunity to share! From their blurb.... It covers most fundamental processes in reading and writing acquisition - phonological awareness, letter sound correspondence, syllable and morpheme segmentation and blending, Grammer spatial skills arithmetic and understanding of the clock. Covers age 6 to 16 and linked to nat curriculum. Basically you do a 15 min test appropriate to age/problem and from this it can work out where the weaknesses are and creates computer based exercises specific to child (fun to do according to my 6 yr old!). It also does continual monitoring so you can measure how child is progressing. I spoke with originators and it has been used very successfully with Aspergers as well as dyslexics (all multisensory) and is very easy to customise so that you can include your own pictures that may be your childs fixation, word lists, even the " well done " sound when you get it right can be recorded to be something specific and meaningful to child. Just re-read and I sound like an advert! To assure you I have no links to this company - but having looked at many computer packages for dyslexia this is easy and fun to use (even for a parent) and I just wanted others to be able to look themselves. Oh and did I mention it is used in 80% of schools in Sweden and has spent 5 years customising and piloting for UK use. Hope this might be of use to someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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