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I'm definitely on a different wavelength than most of the fitness

competition community, because I think the fake implants make these

women look like freaks.

But that's just my opinion.

Naomi

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> So I know most of us aren't trying to be figure competitors or

> anything, but

> I have found that I can't even go to a fitness website or read a fitness

> magazine without seeing that 99% of the women have breast implants. AND,

> since my new goal is to look like all of them, it's hard to feel like I

> would be ok without implants... And I dunno, maybe this is just me, but I

> love my breasts. They are just B's, but I would DIE if they shrunk to

> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested. That part of it

> really has

> nothing to do with other people or trying to get a guy or anything...

> I love

> them, and I've always wanted them to be bigger, and if I get really

> lean and

> they disappear to nothing.. AH! And really, it's just not fair. I can

> train every other part of my body, and let's say I get to the point

> where I

> like every single part of myself except that, I think it would just

> drive me

> crazy.

>

> But then it's like, ok, do I really need to spend $8000 on that? And

> most

> people who have them have to have surgery within 5 years again to fix

> SOMETHING with them... And I'm not anywhere near the point of actually

> wanting to get them, but I just think it's interesting that it seems

> to be

> an unspoken rule that you must have them. 99% of competitors seem to

> have

> them, but on all training websites it never says 'ooh by the way, you

> should

> make sure your fake boobs are competition ready too'... I dunno... Just

> interesting...

> K

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I think they look weird too. They defy gravity -- real things do

not defy gravity.

Felicity

> I'm definitely on a different wavelength than most of the fitness

> competition community, because I think the fake implants make these

> women look like freaks.

>

> But that's just my opinion.

>

> Naomi

> ******

>> So I know most of us aren't trying to be figure competitors or

>> anything, but

>> I have found that I can't even go to a fitness website or read a

>> fitness

>> magazine without seeing that 99% of the women have breast

>> implants. AND,

>> since my new goal is to look like all of them, it's hard to feel

>> like I

>> would be ok without implants... And I dunno, maybe this is just

>> me, but I

>> love my breasts. They are just B's, but I would DIE if they

>> shrunk to

>> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested. That part of it

>> really has

>> nothing to do with other people or trying to get a guy or anything...

>> I love

>> them, and I've always wanted them to be bigger, and if I get really

>> lean and

>> they disappear to nothing.. AH! And really, it's just not fair.

>> I can

>> train every other part of my body, and let's say I get to the point

>> where I

>> like every single part of myself except that, I think it would just

>> drive me

>> crazy.

>>

>> But then it's like, ok, do I really need to spend $8000 on that? And

>> most

>> people who have them have to have surgery within 5 years again to fix

>> SOMETHING with them... And I'm not anywhere near the point of

>> actually

>> wanting to get them, but I just think it's interesting that it seems

>> to be

>> an unspoken rule that you must have them. 99% of competitors seem to

>> have

>> them, but on all training websites it never says 'ooh by the way, you

>> should

>> make sure your fake boobs are competition ready too'... I dunno...

>> Just

>> interesting...

>> K

>>

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I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

love my small chest.

I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

I love not bouncing when I run.

I love sleeping on my stomach.

I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

I love that gravity does not affect them.

Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

Jen Hendershot

On the cover of Oxygen this month

http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

Ally Bookless

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

Ali McKnight

http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

Chaundra Tangi

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

> So I know most of us aren't trying to be figure competitors or anything, but

> I have found that I can't even go to a fitness website or read a fitness

> magazine without seeing that 99% of the women have breast implants. AND,

> since my new goal is to look like all of them, it's hard to feel like I

> would be ok without implants... And I dunno, maybe this is just me, but I

> love my breasts. They are just B's, but I would DIE if they shrunk to

> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested. That part of it really has

> nothing to do with other people or trying to get a guy or anything... I love

> them, and I've always wanted them to be bigger, and if I get really lean and

> they disappear to nothing.. AH! And really, it's just not fair. I can

> train every other part of my body, and let's say I get to the point where I

> like every single part of myself except that, I think it would just drive me

> crazy.

>

> But then it's like, ok, do I really need to spend $8000 on that? And most

> people who have them have to have surgery within 5 years again to fix

> SOMETHING with them... And I'm not anywhere near the point of actually

> wanting to get them, but I just think it's interesting that it seems to be

> an unspoken rule that you must have them. 99% of competitors seem to have

> them, but on all training websites it never says 'ooh by the way, you should

> make sure your fake boobs are competition ready too'... I dunno... Just

> interesting...

> K

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Having been born a DDD, and having a reduction done 7 years ago, I can

honestly say, it ain¹t all that. Years of dogs stepping on them in the

middle of the night YIKES! Lovers rolling over on them YOW!!!! Migraines,

back pain, dents in my shoulders, the search for a running bra.... I don¹t

get it. Three gals a work with all went to the same Dr. and got them, I

just shake my head. All three are gorgeous women and none of them needed to

do that. I see it as a self esteem issue that needs to be worked out in a

more positive fashion.

> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

> love my small chest.

>

> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

> I love not bouncing when I run.

> I love sleeping on my stomach.

> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>

> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>

> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>

> Jen Hendershot

> On the cover of Oxygen this month

> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>

> Ally Bookless

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>

> Ali McKnight

> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>

> Chaundra Tangi

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

>

>

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Sigh. Being on the opposite side of the fence since adolescence, I can

give the corollary of your list:

I hate guys looking at my chest when they talk to me.

I hate the busty, Pamela look.

I hate not being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

I hate bouncing when I run.

I hate not being able to sleep on my stomach.

I hate that when I'm sleeping on my back, they fall into my armpits.

I hate that I can't wear a teeny bikini no matter how buff I get.

I hate that gravity has definitely affected them.

I'm flabbergasted that millions of women have paid millions of dollars

to get what looks like two bowling balls implanted under their skin. We

think we've made such great progress and become so enlightened since our

mothers were young, but I've really got to shake my head about the whole

implant-mania thing.

Naomi

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Skwigg wrote:

> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

> love my small chest.

>

> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

> I love not bouncing when I run.

> I love sleeping on my stomach.

> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>

> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>

> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>

> Jen Hendershot

> On the cover of Oxygen this month

> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>

> Ally Bookless

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>

> Ali McKnight

> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>

> Chaundra Tangi

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

>

>

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Double D here and nodding my head

i hate that each one equals 5% of my BF LOL

felicity

> Sigh. Being on the opposite side of the fence since adolescence, I can

> give the corollary of your list:

>

> I hate guys looking at my chest when they talk to me.

> I hate the busty, Pamela look.

> I hate not being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> I hate bouncing when I run.

> I hate not being able to sleep on my stomach.

> I hate that when I'm sleeping on my back, they fall into my armpits.

> I hate that I can't wear a teeny bikini no matter how buff I get.

> I hate that gravity has definitely affected them.

>

> I'm flabbergasted that millions of women have paid millions of dollars

> to get what looks like two bowling balls implanted under their

> skin. We

> think we've made such great progress and become so enlightened

> since our

> mothers were young, but I've really got to shake my head about the

> whole

> implant-mania thing.

>

> Naomi

> ******

>

> Skwigg wrote:

>> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

>> love my small chest.

>>

>> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

>> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

>> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

>> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

>> I love not bouncing when I run.

>> I love sleeping on my stomach.

>> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

>> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

>> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>>

>> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

>> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>>

>> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

>> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>>

>> Jen Hendershot

>> On the cover of Oxygen this month

>> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>>

>> Ally Bookless

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>>

>> Ali McKnight

>> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>>

>> Chaundra Tangi

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

>>

>>

>>

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lol, i love how it seems like they don't even try to pretend they aren't

fake... there's NO goal to make them look natural

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> I think they look weird too. They defy gravity -- real things do

> not defy gravity.

> Felicity

>

>

>> I'm definitely on a different wavelength than most of the fitness

>> competition community, because I think the fake implants make these

>> women look like freaks.

>>

>> But that's just my opinion.

>>

>> Naomi

>> ******

>>> So I know most of us aren't trying to be figure competitors or

>>> anything, but

>>> I have found that I can't even go to a fitness website or read a

>>> fitness

>>> magazine without seeing that 99% of the women have breast

>>> implants. AND,

>>> since my new goal is to look like all of them, it's hard to feel

>>> like I

>>> would be ok without implants... And I dunno, maybe this is just

>>> me, but I

>>> love my breasts. They are just B's, but I would DIE if they

>>> shrunk to

>>> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested. That part of it

>>> really has

>>> nothing to do with other people or trying to get a guy or anything...

>>> I love

>>> them, and I've always wanted them to be bigger, and if I get really

>>> lean and

>>> they disappear to nothing.. AH! And really, it's just not fair.

>>> I can

>>> train every other part of my body, and let's say I get to the point

>>> where I

>>> like every single part of myself except that, I think it would just

>>> drive me

>>> crazy.

>>>

>>> But then it's like, ok, do I really need to spend $8000 on that? And

>>> most

>>> people who have them have to have surgery within 5 years again to fix

>>> SOMETHING with them... And I'm not anywhere near the point of

>>> actually

>>> wanting to get them, but I just think it's interesting that it seems

>>> to be

>>> an unspoken rule that you must have them. 99% of competitors seem to

>>> have

>>> them, but on all training websites it never says 'ooh by the way, you

>>> should

>>> make sure your fake boobs are competition ready too'... I dunno...

>>> Just

>>> interesting...

>>> K

>>>

>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

>>> ---

>>>

>>

>>

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I personally don't like the look of implants, they look fake and

don't move naturally. They also look weird on someone who is lean,

completely out of proportion with the rest of their body. And not

all men love them either....fortunately for me, my husband finds

them to look as weird as I do. lol

I am an A cup and really don't need to wear a bra. I'm happy with

that because I find bras uncomfortable to begin with. When I was

nursing my babies, they ballooned to D's. I used to have very perky

A's, now they are less perky! ;-) I don't even mind this, because I

manage to have actual cleavage with only an A cup. Who knew?

I think the health risks of having an operation (possible infection,

etc), scarring, the potential toxix effects of implant material, and

the need to replace them every 10 years do not outweigh the

benefits, in my opinion.

I don't think you would *die*, really. If you look at your body

overall, what you end up with will be in proportion to the rest of

you. And there is definitely something sexy about a confident, lean

woman who is flat chested. I've seen/met several women like this,

breasts are not a pre-requisite.

>>>>> They are just B's, but I would DIE if they shrunk to

> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested.

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I wouldn't take breast implants if they were free. And that's not a joke. I

was flat all my life and ballooned up in that area when the fat came on.

After losing 45# and now at a small B from a D, I love it! I wouldn't even

care much if I was an A to be honest with you.

For anyone considering it -- please reconsider going HUGE.

To me it looks awful silly to have a tight body with two melons stapled on.

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I think this is a deeply emotional subject for me. I started

developing in the 5th grade, when I didnt understand them- was made

fun of by other kids, and came from a family where NO ONE had

breasts, so they didnt know how to take care of my need for a bra- I

think I flopped around, improperly supported until just 3 weeks ago!

From childhood, I learned how to roll my shoulders forward to conceal

them, developed horrible posture, and cursed the top heavy imbalance

of my figure. This week, as a result of experiencing Gyrotonics and

an incredible Yoga class at my gym, I triggered years of deeply

rooted energies from the chakra in my chest, and have cried from the

physical pain of releasing it. But I refuse to hate my body.

I'm on a mission to better my athletic abilities, and strengthen the

relationship that I have with my body. However, saying this, I

really understand a woman's desire to just 'balance things out'

between the top and bottom portions of her figure. Plastic surgery is

a controversial subject, especially if one believes that the life

force does NOT reside solely in the body (insert new age philosophy

here) :0)

I'm on the fence with this subject. I think that people can use the

tools of technology to enhance/disenhance the experience of their

lives, or they can change their perspective on the beauty ideal and

change their minds(a road far less traveled).

Go ahead, kiss the part of your body that grieves...

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> > I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's

why I

> > love my small chest.

> >

> > I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

> > I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

> > I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> > I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

> > I love not bouncing when I run.

> > I love sleeping on my stomach.

> > I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

> > I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

> > I love that gravity does not affect them.

> >

> > Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of

why

> > large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

> >

> > There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

> > implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

> >

> > Jen Hendershot

> > On the cover of Oxygen this month

> > http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

> >

> > Ally Bookless

> > http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

> >

> > Ali McKnight

> > http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

> >

> > Chaundra Tangi

> > http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

> >

> >

> >

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I am wondering what is going to happen to me. Currently around 60

pounds overweight and wear a flipping F! or H! I want to get in the

best shape of my life and I could honestly use a life now from gaining

and losing. I am scared what is going to happen to them! eck! I'll you

posted! LOL

>

> > I wouldn't take breast implants if they were free. And that's not a

> > joke. I

> > was flat all my life and ballooned up in that area when the fat

> > came on.

> > After losing 45# and now at a small B from a D, I love it! I

> > wouldn't even

> > care much if I was an A to be honest with you.

> > For anyone considering it -- please reconsider going HUGE.

> > To me it looks awful silly to have a tight body with two melons

> > stapled on.

> > :)

> >

> >

> >

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My two cents...

I considered having implants about 15 years ago, mainly because I'm

smaller on one side than the other and wanted them evened up. I

decided against it and have not regretted it. I know " everybody " is

doing it these days, but my dad said something to me that put it in

perspective, which was " why would you risk your health for this

elective surgery? " Also, my husband, the " boob man " likes mine

anyway (I'm a B on one side and a C on the other and will be smaller

than that when I lose these last 15 pounds of fat) because they are

soft and natural! He refers to one of my friends as " the one who had

the boob job " and about how they look like two softballs under her

shirt.

Maybe younger men find the fake ones attractive - we are in our late

40's.

I would rather thin and flat.

Anne

....here's why I love my small chest.

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I am one of those girls who had giant boobs earlier in life. After

breastfeeding and getting to my current 19% bodyfat they are nice c's.

I like 'em! I really hated them when they were huge. I won't even

scare you with stories of their size when I was breastfeeding.

That said, I have a close friend who has had very small almost-A's our

whole life growing up. I think she looks perfect but she's always had

this thing where she's wanted larger breasts. I would be supportive if

that's what would make her happy with her body.

I can imagine that more than one of the people who critized the surgery

will be first in line when they are 40-50 something for botox or

restylene or a face lift. We all have the line we're willing to

cross. I'm just not so quick to put implants down because I've never

been really small breasted so I haven't walked in those shoes.

I also have a friend who had large breasts all her life and when she

turned 45 she got implants. They aren't larger, but they stand up and

she can now wear tanks and bathing suits without sagging. She loves

them.

Also, if you haven't had kids yet I'd at least wait until after

breastfeeding, kids, etc.

I'm looking in my Oxygen magazine and I just don't see many implants

(except in the advertisements). Or maybe they just had really good

surgeons and I can't tell.

And besides, if no one got them how could we play the long-enjoyed game

of " are they real? "

So, my point is, make yourself happy. But, we think you look great

without them.

Jami

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Hi Jami,

I agree with your points, particularly with the " make yourself happy "

part. I should have put that in my previous post.

No surgery or botox for me though - I'll be 50 on Friday and am

dealing with the wrinkles and sagging skin with face cream, diet and

exercise. I'm not convinced that the other stuff is any safer than

surgery.

I keep thinking if I try exercising my face - have you ever seen Jack

LaLanne scruntching up his face - that it might puff up my facial

muscles.

Has anyone over or around 50 gotten rid of their double-chin by

getting below 20% body fat, or do I just face the fact that I'm

getting to that stage of my life? No pun intended! Ha!

Anne

...I can imagine that more than one of the people

who critized the surgery will be first in line when they are 40-50

something for botox or restylene or a face lift. We all have the

line we're willing to cross. I'm just not so quick to put implants

down because I've never been really small breasted so I haven't

walked in those shoes.

And besides, if no one got them how could we play the long-enjoyed

game of " are they real? " > So, my point is, make yourself happy.

But, we think you look great without them.

>

> Jami

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Anne,

What type of face cream do you use??

Thanks!

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Hi Jami,

I agree with your points, particularly with the " make yourself happy "

part. I should have put that in my previous post.

No surgery or botox for me though - I'll be 50 on Friday and am dealing

with the wrinkles and sagging skin with face cream, diet and exercise.

I'm not convinced that the other stuff is any safer than surgery.

I keep thinking if I try exercising my face - have you ever seen Jack

LaLanne scruntching up his face - that it might puff up my facial

muscles.

Has anyone over or around 50 gotten rid of their double-chin by getting

below 20% body fat, or do I just face the fact that I'm getting to that

stage of my life? No pun intended! Ha!

Anne

...I can imagine that more than one of the people

who critized the surgery will be first in line when they are 40-50

something for botox or restylene or a face lift. We all have the line

we're willing to cross. I'm just not so quick to put implants down

because I've never been really small breasted so I haven't walked in

those shoes.

And besides, if no one got them how could we play the long-enjoyed game

of " are they real? " > So, my point is, make yourself happy.

But, we think you look great without them.

>

> Jami

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Thanks so much for putting up the links to those girls. They are beautiful.

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> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

> love my small chest.

>

> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

> I love not bouncing when I run.

> I love sleeping on my stomach.

> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>

> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>

> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>

> Jen Hendershot

> On the cover of Oxygen this month

> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>

> Ally Bookless

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>

> Ali McKnight

> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>

> Chaundra Tangi

> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

>

>

>

>

>> So I know most of us aren't trying to be figure competitors or anything,

>> but

>> I have found that I can't even go to a fitness website or read a fitness

>> magazine without seeing that 99% of the women have breast implants. AND,

>> since my new goal is to look like all of them, it's hard to feel like I

>> would be ok without implants... And I dunno, maybe this is just me, but I

>> love my breasts. They are just B's, but I would DIE if they shrunk to

>> nothing. *I* will not be ok being flat chested. That part of it really

>> has

>> nothing to do with other people or trying to get a guy or anything... I

>> love

>> them, and I've always wanted them to be bigger, and if I get really lean

>> and

>> they disappear to nothing.. AH! And really, it's just not fair. I can

>> train every other part of my body, and let's say I get to the point where

>> I

>> like every single part of myself except that, I think it would just drive

>> me

>> crazy.

>>

>> But then it's like, ok, do I really need to spend $8000 on that? And

>> most

>> people who have them have to have surgery within 5 years again to fix

>> SOMETHING with them... And I'm not anywhere near the point of actually

>> wanting to get them, but I just think it's interesting that it seems to

>> be

>> an unspoken rule that you must have them. 99% of competitors seem to

>> have

>> them, but on all training websites it never says 'ooh by the way, you

>> should

>> make sure your fake boobs are competition ready too'... I dunno... Just

>> interesting...

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Absolutely have a DDD would be soooo hard and I would definitely get a

reduction...

But don't you think your self esteem improved, maybe even just a little bit

when you got the reduction? The medical reasons to have a reduction are

indisputable, but I'm sure you like the cosmetic result as well, which I

don't see as being any different than having implants

Re: Breast Implants?

> Having been born a DDD, and having a reduction done 7 years ago, I can

> honestly say, it ain¹t all that. Years of dogs stepping on them in the

> middle of the night YIKES! Lovers rolling over on them YOW!!!! Migraines,

> back pain, dents in my shoulders, the search for a running bra.... I

> don¹t

> get it. Three gals a work with all went to the same Dr. and got them, I

> just shake my head. All three are gorgeous women and none of them needed

> to

> do that. I see it as a self esteem issue that needs to be worked out in a

> more positive fashion.

>

>

>

>> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

>> love my small chest.

>>

>> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

>> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

>> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

>> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

>> I love not bouncing when I run.

>> I love sleeping on my stomach.

>> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

>> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

>> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>>

>> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

>> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>>

>> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

>> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>>

>> Jen Hendershot

>> On the cover of Oxygen this month

>> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>>

>> Ally Bookless

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>>

>> Ali McKnight

>> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>>

>> Chaundra Tangi

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

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It is quite interesting... if you look at Renaissance artwork ALL the women

are busty. Not a single one of them had a B or an A cup. BUT, the women

were large all over... big thighs, big stomachs, big arms, big butts big

everything! It's funny how we want to pick and choose what parts of our

body stay big and what dont... So it's not really a new phenomena to desire

a large bust, but it's new to expect that's going to happen with a 13% body

fat!

Re: Breast Implants?

> Sigh. Being on the opposite side of the fence since adolescence, I can

> give the corollary of your list:

>

> I hate guys looking at my chest when they talk to me.

> I hate the busty, Pamela look.

> I hate not being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

> I hate bouncing when I run.

> I hate not being able to sleep on my stomach.

> I hate that when I'm sleeping on my back, they fall into my armpits.

> I hate that I can't wear a teeny bikini no matter how buff I get.

> I hate that gravity has definitely affected them.

>

> I'm flabbergasted that millions of women have paid millions of dollars

> to get what looks like two bowling balls implanted under their skin. We

> think we've made such great progress and become so enlightened since our

> mothers were young, but I've really got to shake my head about the whole

> implant-mania thing.

>

> Naomi

> ******

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> Skwigg wrote:

>> I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's why I

>> love my small chest.

>>

>> I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

>> I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

>> I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

>> I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

>> I love not bouncing when I run.

>> I love sleeping on my stomach.

>> I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

>> I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

>> I love that gravity does not affect them.

>>

>> Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of why

>> large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>>

>> There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

>> implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>>

>> Jen Hendershot

>> On the cover of Oxygen this month

>> http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>>

>> Ally Bookless

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>>

>> Ali McKnight

>> http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>>

>> Chaundra Tangi

>> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

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hmm interesting, I have developed bad posture too, from trying not to stick

them out. I also have wide shoulders. I feel like amazon woman. I would

give anything to be smaller.

What is gyrotonics?

At 01:49 PM 5/29/2006, you wrote:

>I think this is a deeply emotional subject for me. I started

>developing in the 5th grade, when I didnt understand them- was made

>fun of by other kids, and came from a family where NO ONE had

>breasts, so they didnt know how to take care of my need for a bra- I

>think I flopped around, improperly supported until just 3 weeks ago!

>

> From childhood, I learned how to roll my shoulders forward to conceal

>them, developed horrible posture, and cursed the top heavy imbalance

>of my figure. This week, as a result of experiencing Gyrotonics and

>an incredible Yoga class at my gym, I triggered years of deeply

>rooted energies from the chakra in my chest, and have cried from the

>physical pain of releasing it. But I refuse to hate my body.

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Wow, I'm the same way as you... I acutally had to change schools in 6th

grade because I was made fun of SO much for having boobs... I just developed

way before everyone else, and being an 11 year old with a B cup does look

pretty abnormal... But that's as big as they got... Maybe I got used to

thinking I had big breasts and that's why it's so hard for me to not have

them now... I pretty much only wear insanely padded bras and it's not so

much to create cleavage, it's more to just make my top balance my bottom

when I wear a t shirt or something... I just feel like my clothes fit better

when I'm a size bigger... BUT yeah... I'm still on the fence for ME

personally...

Re: Breast Implants?

>I think this is a deeply emotional subject for me. I started

> developing in the 5th grade, when I didnt understand them- was made

> fun of by other kids, and came from a family where NO ONE had

> breasts, so they didnt know how to take care of my need for a bra- I

> think I flopped around, improperly supported until just 3 weeks ago!

>

>>From childhood, I learned how to roll my shoulders forward to conceal

> them, developed horrible posture, and cursed the top heavy imbalance

> of my figure. This week, as a result of experiencing Gyrotonics and

> an incredible Yoga class at my gym, I triggered years of deeply

> rooted energies from the chakra in my chest, and have cried from the

> physical pain of releasing it. But I refuse to hate my body.

>

> I'm on a mission to better my athletic abilities, and strengthen the

> relationship that I have with my body. However, saying this, I

> really understand a woman's desire to just 'balance things out'

> between the top and bottom portions of her figure. Plastic surgery is

> a controversial subject, especially if one believes that the life

> force does NOT reside solely in the body (insert new age philosophy

> here) :0)

>

> I'm on the fence with this subject. I think that people can use the

> tools of technology to enhance/disenhance the experience of their

> lives, or they can change their perspective on the beauty ideal and

> change their minds(a road far less traveled).

>

> Go ahead, kiss the part of your body that grieves...

>

> --

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>> > I've probably had too much caffeine (or not enough) but here's

> why I

>> > love my small chest.

>> >

>> > I love people looking at my face when they talk to me.

>> > I love the lean gymnast, ballerina, dancer look.

>> > I love being able to wear strappy tank tops with no bra.

>> > I love being able to do jujitsu without rupturing anything.

>> > I love not bouncing when I run.

>> > I love sleeping on my stomach.

>> > I love that I can wear a teeny bikini and still be covered.

>> > I love I can have great cleavage with a padded push-up bra.

>> > I love that gravity does not affect them.

>> >

>> > Now, that's just me. Somebody else could probably make a list of

> why

>> > large breasts or $8000 implants are the greatest thing ever. :-)

>> >

>> > There are actually quite a few competitors and models without

>> > implants. A couple of them off the top of my head:

>> >

>> > Jen Hendershot

>> > On the cover of Oxygen this month

>> > http://www.getphatwithjen.com/

>> >

>> > Ally Bookless

>> > http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac24.htm

>> >

>> > Ali McKnight

>> > http://www.sixpacknow.com/previewaotm3.html

>> >

>> > Chaundra Tangi

>> > http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac3pic6big.jpg

>> >

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I just went into my Boob Museum... 40E... that's what size I wore

when I was nursing (Aug 2004). In high school: 34DD. Now: 34C.

For me it's all dependant on what my bodyfat is. They don't seem to

be going down much now, even though I'm slowly lowering my bodyfat.

I think actually building some chest muscle has made them nicer.

Ya, and wonderbras are much cheaper than surgery! haha.

Jami

>

> LoL! My breasts don't seem to change in size... Ever... I have

been 140

> and 175 # and they stayed the same... Maybe they will stay the

same size

> when I'm 140 and all muscley again, hmmm...

>

>

>

> Re: Breast Implants?

>

>

> >I wouldn't take breast implants if they were free. And that's not

a joke. I

> > was flat all my life and ballooned up in that area when the fat

came on.

> > After losing 45# and now at a small B from a D, I love it! I

wouldn't even

> > care much if I was an A to be honest with you.

> > For anyone considering it -- please reconsider going HUGE.

> > To me it looks awful silly to have a tight body with two melons

stapled

> > on.

> > :)

> >

> >

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Thank you so much for this post... You came across so understanding and so

non judgemental... Thanks also for recognizing that you haven't been on the

other side of the boobspectrum lol... I have put some thought into just

waiting until I have children... That way, #1 I know my husband isn't with

me for my boobs, lol #2, who KNOWS what will happen to my girls after i have

kids and #3, I would hate myself if for some reason something went wrong in

the surgery and I wasn't able to breastfeed my kids... imagine how painful

that would be too, since my breasts would probably still swell up with milk,

OW!

thanks again for this post!

Re: Breast Implants?

>I am one of those girls who had giant boobs earlier in life. After

> breastfeeding and getting to my current 19% bodyfat they are nice c's.

> I like 'em! I really hated them when they were huge. I won't even

> scare you with stories of their size when I was breastfeeding.

>

> That said, I have a close friend who has had very small almost-A's our

> whole life growing up. I think she looks perfect but she's always had

> this thing where she's wanted larger breasts. I would be supportive if

> that's what would make her happy with her body.

>

> I can imagine that more than one of the people who critized the surgery

> will be first in line when they are 40-50 something for botox or

> restylene or a face lift. We all have the line we're willing to

> cross. I'm just not so quick to put implants down because I've never

> been really small breasted so I haven't walked in those shoes.

>

> I also have a friend who had large breasts all her life and when she

> turned 45 she got implants. They aren't larger, but they stand up and

> she can now wear tanks and bathing suits without sagging. She loves

> them.

>

> Also, if you haven't had kids yet I'd at least wait until after

> breastfeeding, kids, etc.

>

> I'm looking in my Oxygen magazine and I just don't see many implants

> (except in the advertisements). Or maybe they just had really good

> surgeons and I can't tell.

>

> And besides, if no one got them how could we play the long-enjoyed game

> of " are they real? "

>

> So, my point is, make yourself happy. But, we think you look great

> without them.

>

> Jami

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i love how much mileage we've all gotten out of the boob subject:)

i guess we all have strong feelings on the subject

and we thought men were obsessed with them LOL

felicity

> Thank you so much for this post... You came across so understanding

> and so

> non judgemental... Thanks also for recognizing that you haven't

> been on the

> other side of the boobspectrum lol... I have put some thought into

> just

> waiting until I have children... That way, #1 I know my husband

> isn't with

> me for my boobs, lol #2, who KNOWS what will happen to my girls

> after i have

> kids and #3, I would hate myself if for some reason something went

> wrong in

> the surgery and I wasn't able to breastfeed my kids... imagine how

> painful

> that would be too, since my breasts would probably still swell up

> with milk,

> OW!

> thanks again for this post!

>

> Re: Breast Implants?

>

>

>> I am one of those girls who had giant boobs earlier in life. After

>> breastfeeding and getting to my current 19% bodyfat they are nice

>> c's.

>> I like 'em! I really hated them when they were huge. I won't even

>> scare you with stories of their size when I was breastfeeding.

>>

>> That said, I have a close friend who has had very small almost-A's

>> our

>> whole life growing up. I think she looks perfect but she's always

>> had

>> this thing where she's wanted larger breasts. I would be

>> supportive if

>> that's what would make her happy with her body.

>>

>> I can imagine that more than one of the people who critized the

>> surgery

>> will be first in line when they are 40-50 something for botox or

>> restylene or a face lift. We all have the line we're willing to

>> cross. I'm just not so quick to put implants down because I've never

>> been really small breasted so I haven't walked in those shoes.

>>

>> I also have a friend who had large breasts all her life and when she

>> turned 45 she got implants. They aren't larger, but they stand up

>> and

>> she can now wear tanks and bathing suits without sagging. She loves

>> them.

>>

>> Also, if you haven't had kids yet I'd at least wait until after

>> breastfeeding, kids, etc.

>>

>> I'm looking in my Oxygen magazine and I just don't see many implants

>> (except in the advertisements). Or maybe they just had really good

>> surgeons and I can't tell.

>>

>> And besides, if no one got them how could we play the long-enjoyed

>> game

>> of " are they real? "

>>

>> So, my point is, make yourself happy. But, we think you look great

>> without them.

>>

>> Jami

>>

>>

>>

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-- In , " E "

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>

> Scared as to what's going to happen to your breasts? Are you concerned

> about cup reduction, or sagging.... or what?

>

>

> Re: Breast Implants?

>

>

> >I am wondering what is going to happen to me. Currently around 60

> > pounds overweight and wear a flipping F! or H! I want to get in the

> > best shape of my life and I could honestly use a life now from gaining

> > and losing. I am scared what is going to happen to them! eck! I'll you

> > posted! LOL

> >

> >>

> >> > I wouldn't take breast implants if they were free. And that's not a

> >> > joke. I

> >> > was flat all my life and ballooned up in that area when the fat

> >> > came on.

> >> > After losing 45# and now at a small B from a D, I love it! I

> >> > wouldn't even

> >> > care much if I was an A to be honest with you.

> >> > For anyone considering it -- please reconsider going HUGE.

> >> > To me it looks awful silly to have a tight body with two melons

> >> > stapled on.

> >> > :)

> >> >

> >> >

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I posted this last week, here's what I said:

This website has a RealPlayer video, that shows experienced ballet

dancers strengthening their " long " muscles.

When you watch remember that they are attached to weighted pulleys,

much like the systems at a gym:

http://www.bodyevolutions.com/gyrotonic.html

This website is the history of the creator/inventor. He has a huge

history in the the NYC ballet and Yoga/Pilates world.

http://www.gyrotonic.com/equipment.htm

It ain't cheap, they are around $60-95 an hour for private sessions.

Ive been informed that it will take time to become mainstream,

because the name " gyrotonic " has been trademarked. Therefore, all

of the master instructors have to go through the inventor himself;

which is very, very unlike Pilates (hence words like karate-lates,

or yoga-lates)

Many studios in are in California, Florida and NYC.

>

> >I think this is a deeply emotional subject for me. I started

> >developing in the 5th grade, when I didnt understand them- was

made

> >fun of by other kids, and came from a family where NO ONE had

> >breasts, so they didnt know how to take care of my need for a bra-

I

> >think I flopped around, improperly supported until just 3 weeks

ago!

> >

> > From childhood, I learned how to roll my shoulders forward to

conceal

> >them, developed horrible posture, and cursed the top heavy

imbalance

> >of my figure. This week, as a result of experiencing Gyrotonics

and

> >an incredible Yoga class at my gym, I triggered years of deeply

> >rooted energies from the chakra in my chest, and have cried from

the

> >physical pain of releasing it. But I refuse to hate my body.

>

>

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