Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 rosanne, Here is a pretty good mold free diet guide. _http://www.mold-survivor.com/dietcopyright.html_ (http://www.mold-survivor.com/dietcopyright.html) But KC is right. Its trial and error of what works for you. Bleu cheese still bothers me some. But, I love it so I eat it. Just not as much as I would like to. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 nne, I don't believe that there is any reason to get confused or upset. Each doctor has their own protocol and diet, most of the time they are fit to each individual, depending on what they have been exposed to or poisoned by. None of them are cure alls, or the silver bullet per se. So you must do what works for you. Whether it's Dr.Shoemaker or any other doctor that has corn, fruit or whatever in their diet or eliminated, you do what you feel is best for you, but try and do your best to continue with the doctors protocol. If you feel that corn, wheat, fruit is not good for you or disagrees with your system then don't eat it. One doctor may not recommended a food because it contains too much sugar, another doctor may not recommend the same food because the possibility of aflatoxins/mycotoxins and another doctor may recommend it because of other vitamins or enzymes, nutrients that he may feel far outway a minute possibility of aflatoxins or sugar. I highly recommend you follow any doctors protocol as close as possible. If you really think about it, and I don't mean to confuse you or anyone else more than we have to, But any fruit, vegetable, herb, that you pick from a vine, pull from the ground, snap from a branch or cut in the field, it starts to decompose immediately. EVERYTHING. Fungus bacteria starts to take over immediately to start the decomposition and fermentation so everything can have fungus growing on or in it. This is why you should inspect and wash your food throughly. Number one to recovery is prevention and yes, avoidance. KC --- In , " roxygardens " <Roxygardens@...> wrote: > > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol for almost a year now. > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did he mention melons, as in > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as in grains, cereal grains > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I see no melons, yet > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give up! > > nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 -Roxy, I have a food allergy to corn now, is why I can't eat it at all. -- In , " roxygardens " <Roxygardens@...> wrote: > > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol for almost a year now. > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did he mention melons, as in > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as in grains, cereal grains > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I see no melons, yet > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give up! > > nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Roseanne, We are all not following the same diet and some people make exceptions so they feel they have adequate diet. Diet is one of those things that there are many opinions on. I think it is safe to say one thing, that a high carb diet and sugar feeds mold and yeast, so low carbing is important. You don't want to eat mold and mycotoxins so avoiding foods that are likely to contain those are next in importance to me. However I was stuck at Denny's not long ago and couldn't choose between all the transfat fried foods, questionable meat, etc and ordered a grilled cheese sandwich since I needed to eat. I also have oatmeal even though it is a grain and also a carb, for it is a good soluable fiber and I need fiber and my digestive tract cannot handle insoluable fiber. I need some variety to my diet so I make exceptions where I feel the need, so you will hear all sorts of variations on diets. --- roxygardens <Roxygardens@...> wrote: > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol > for almost a year now. > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did > he mention melons, as in > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as > in grains, cereal grains > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I > see no melons, yet > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give > up! > > nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Yes, this is good advice. Pick one of these diets. Stick to it. If you feel much better, it is agreeing with you. If you don't feel much better, try another one but always from someone expert in mold problems. Later you can try to have exceptions that you feel you need to have adequate nutrition. If they don't seem to upset your progress, then it is agreeing with you. --- tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2c@...> wrote: > nne, > > I don't believe that there is any reason to get > confused or upset. > Each doctor has their own protocol and diet, > most of the time they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Since exposures 'break us' in different ways, I always found the best way to determine your personal dietary parameters was to keep a diet diary in which you wrote down all your foods (including those which combine ingredients in packaged stuff) over a three week period. Each meal or snack is written down with the time recorded. At intervals you note down your health reactions, negative and positive signs with times. It is amazing what you can learn about your nutritional needs and food intolerances that way. It helps docs treat you and for you to know your unique issues - e.g. I found out I was not allergic to beef but reacted to hormones and antibiotics in non-organic meats only. My reaction set in exactly five hours after eating the wrong kind of meat yet I was fine after eating good type. Five hours is unusual for me so I had had no idea what was causing that particular reaction. I usually react allergically within 20 minutes, with GI distress within an hour and with increased fibro/peripheral neuropathy pain (gluten products) in a day. You will more easily be able to mix and match among diets this way with proof your doc will be happy to have. The detective work is usually up to us, not any single work of one doc. Barb > > > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol > > for almost a year now. > > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did > > he mention melons, as in > > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as > > in grains, cereal grains > > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I > > see no melons, yet > > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give > > up! > > > > nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 in fact his book says corn has natural gluten squashers or some such thing and promotes corn. i thought the same thing rosanne how do we know what to follow' its hard enough sticking ot hte regime when you decide what it should be roxygardens wrote: > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol for almost a year now. > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did he mention melons, as in > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as in grains, cereal grains > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I see no melons, yet > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give up! > > nne > > __._, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 ---, If its worth anything. I still eat corn , and plenty of it. I have not noticed that I react differently when I do or do not eat it. nne In , " J. Page " <apage1@...> wrote: > > in fact his book says corn has natural gluten squashers or some such > thing and promotes corn. > i thought the same thing rosanne > how do we know what to follow' > its hard enough sticking ot hte regime when you decide what it should be > > > > > roxygardens wrote: > > > I have been following Dr. Shoemakers protocol for almost a year now. > > He never mentioned corn as a no no. Never did he mention melons, as in > > honeydue melons. Pedominately it was wheat as in grains, cereal grains > > and sugars and cantelope was mentioned. Now I see no melons, yet > > people are eating, some oatmeal. Help! I give up! > > > > nne > > > > __._, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Yes, I try to keep as many things in diet as possible because good nutrition means a varied diet. I've read the advice to avoid corn but I don't know why corn would be bad. Some people are allergic to it and I hear about moldy corn, but don't you think that is 'stored corn grain' rather than something like fresh corn on the cob?? I will have some summer fresh corn on the cob unless its a day when it would be too many carbs. I really think grains, = stored grains, but I could be wrong. Cornmeal would be stored corn grain that is in many many things that one would want to avoid. --- roxygardens <Roxygardens@...> wrote: > ---, > > If its worth anything. I still eat corn , and > plenty of it. > I have not noticed that I react differently > when I do or do not eat > it. > > nne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 I think the diet is something we all have to try and do what works best for you. When I eat the wrong food, I get itchy on the trunk of my body. I have had severe allegic reaction before all of my body. When I first was told to go on low carb diet, I read the sugar busters book. I was really strick at first but I lost so much weight I just eat what I can now. They say you should stay away from fruit or eat it by itself. I still eat some fruit but not alot. I don't drink juice because it is mostly sugar. Corn is sweet and can be moldy but I ate it maybe twice this summer. The best think is to write down what you eat and when you have trouble, write it down so not to eat it again or eat less of it. Just my opinion. I still have lots of candida but I am allergic to it so I can't seem to kick it. Plus I don't have control of what I eat since I do not drive, etc. I am at the mercy of others. > > > ---, > > > > If its worth anything. I still eat corn , and > > plenty of it. > > I have not noticed that I react differently > > when I do or do not eat > > it. > > > > nne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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