Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Kate, The cardio warm up is really just to get the blood flowing to your muscles so they're not cold, it reduces the chance of injury. I usually just do 5-10 min warm up b/c after sitting at a desk all day I feel like I need to get my body moving before I jump into lifting. The extra cardio issue...do you feel yourself sweating 15-20 min after HIIT? it's still working... I'd say if anything add a lunch time or evening walk or cardio at a diff time than your HIIT, that will just rev your metabolism up again. So many of these things are personal preference, you'll probably get lots of input from this board...do what feels right to you and congrats on your progress so far!!! heather --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Kate - Why do you want or need a faster rate? Why are you thinking that faster is better? It's good to remove fat at a slow pace, for many reasons. Furthermore, it's important to build routines that you can live with for the long-term - if you add more exercise, it's easy to reach burn-out, and feel overwhelmed, and that the program is taking too much time etc. When the reality is that it was the excess that pushed you over the edge, not the program as designed There will be plenty of time for you to tweak or adjust or add in the future - when/if you hit a plateau. If you've already added to the work now, what will you do then? bottom line - if it ain't broke, don't fix it n At 10:13 AM 5/12/2006, you wrote: > I know things are going in the right direction, but >I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a >little more. know what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yes - I agree - a lunchtime or evening walk sounds like a lovely, realistic, do-able addition to all of our days. Or a bikeride with friends/family Or gardening Or dance classes ie, recreational movement n At 01:19 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote: >I'd say if anything add a lunch time or evening walk or cardio at a diff >time than your HIIT, that will just rev your metabolism up again. > heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 That¹s old school thinking, you do ten minutes or so before you lift. What it WILL accomplish is loosening you up for your workout. What it will NOT accomplish is any fat burning or cardio benefit or anything like that. I do 5-10 minutes on a bike before doing leg exercises just to loosen up my knee joints, but otherwise, I do real cardio when it¹s suppose to occur. > I met with a trainer yesterday to get a BF reading. Gladly it was down 2% > since April 11th and my scale weight is down 4-5lbs. I'm in Week 6 and > really starting to see a difference.and loving it. > > > > He was really impressed that my BF was down, but then started asking me what > I was doing. He had NEVER heard of BFL. I just assumed everyone knows > about it!! Oh well. He proceeded to tell me that I really should be doing a > cardio warm-up before weights and that I should be doing at least 30 min of > cardio on my cardio days. After that he said, " Whatever you're doing is > working " . well, duh! So if it's working then why are telling me to change > it?? > > > > Anyway, I can't help but question his suggestions. Do you think it's > necessary to do a cardio warm-up before weights?? And what about adding 10 > minutes on to HIIT?? Or even just another interval to make it a 25 min > workout instead of 20? I know things are going in the right direction, but > I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a > little more. know what I mean? > > > > Thoughts? > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 my trainer has me " warm up " with some big whole body moves like (i'm so new and dumb about this stuff) swinging a 20 lb dumbell from between my legs to way up while doing a loose up and down squat type thingy. What I'm trying to say is cardio isn't the only way to warm up. felicity > Yes - I agree - a lunchtime or evening walk sounds like a lovely, > realistic, do-able addition to all of our days. > Or a bikeride with friends/family > Or gardening > Or dance classes > > ie, recreational movement > > n > > At 01:19 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote: >> I'd say if anything add a lunch time or evening walk or cardio at >> a diff >> time than your HIIT, that will just rev your metabolism up again. >> heather > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 I don't NEED a faster rate or think it's better, I just WANT it.don't we all at some point :-) I know it's good to go at a slower pace and I feel like for the first time in my life that I won't go back. I have crossed the abyss for sure! One thing that helped me realize this is the way I started to feed my kids, and the way I felt if I gave them a McD's happy meal. Guilty. Why would I feed them crappy food when I'm eating the way I am??? Anyway, our family is on the road to a healthier lifestyle! I agree; if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think I'll just continue as is for now. As for recreational activity. I have 2 babies and we are going for more and more walks with the jogger.talk about a workout. LOL _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of n Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: Re: cardio warm up before weights Kate - Why do you want or need a faster rate? Why are you thinking that faster is better? It's good to remove fat at a slow pace, for many reasons. Furthermore, it's important to build routines that you can live with for the long-term - if you add more exercise, it's easy to reach burn-out, and feel overwhelmed, and that the program is taking too much time etc. When the reality is that it was the excess that pushed you over the edge, not the program as designed There will be plenty of time for you to tweak or adjust or add in the future - when/if you hit a plateau. If you've already added to the work now, what will you do then? bottom line - if it ain't broke, don't fix it n At 10:13 AM 5/12/2006, you wrote: > I know things are going in the right direction, but >I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a >little more. know what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 True. I told DH what the trainer said and he said that the first set of 12 IS the warm-up. I wish I had thought to say that to the trainer. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Felicity Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: cardio warm up before weights my trainer has me " warm up " with some big whole body moves like (i'm so new and dumb about this stuff) swinging a 20 lb dumbell from between my legs to way up while doing a loose up and down squat type thingy. What I'm trying to say is cardio isn't the only way to warm up. felicity > Yes - I agree - a lunchtime or evening walk sounds like a lovely, > realistic, do-able addition to all of our days. > Or a bikeride with friends/family > Or gardening > Or dance classes > > ie, recreational movement > > n > > At 01:19 PM 5/12/2006, you wrote: >> I'd say if anything add a lunch time or evening walk or cardio at >> a diff >> time than your HIIT, that will just rev your metabolism up again. >> heather > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Wow this is a busy group! I haven't been able to keep up with all the posts the last couple of days. It is great to be part of a busy caring group. For me I get on the treadmill for 5-10 mins to warm up mostly but to wake me up. I am one of these people that has a hard time being awake even when my eyes are open. The treadmill for a few mins helps me get focused on what I am about to do. I am still learning in all this but so far that seems to be workin. A trainer not hearing of BFL? Wow... loan him your book. That is just sad he doesn't know. Have a wonderful day folks Jackie > > I met with a trainer yesterday to get a BF reading. Gladly it was down 2% > since April 11th and my scale weight is down 4-5lbs. I'm in Week 6 and > really starting to see a difference.and loving it. > > > > He was really impressed that my BF was down, but then started asking me what > I was doing. He had NEVER heard of BFL. I just assumed everyone knows > about it!! Oh well. He proceeded to tell me that I really should be doing a > cardio warm-up before weights and that I should be doing at least 30 min of > cardio on my cardio days. After that he said, " Whatever you're doing is > working " . well, duh! So if it's working then why are telling me to change > it?? > > > > Anyway, I can't help but question his suggestions. Do you think it's > necessary to do a cardio warm-up before weights?? And what about adding 10 > minutes on to HIIT?? Or even just another interval to make it a 25 min > workout instead of 20? I know things are going in the right direction, but > I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a > little more. know what I mean? > > > > Thoughts? > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 perfect - for many reasons At 10:47 AM 5/12/2006, you wrote: >As for recreational activity. I have 2 babies and we are going for more and >more walks with the jogger.talk about a workout. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Jack LaLanne recommends those " swing things " too. He's hanging in there!! Go, Felicity!! Would you recommend a personal trainer to newbies? How are you feeling? Curious, M. > > my trainer has me " warm up " with some big whole body moves like (i'm > so new and dumb about this stuff) swinging a 20 lb dumbell from > between my legs to way up while doing a loose up and down squat type > thingy. What I'm trying to say is cardio isn't the only way to warm up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 i'm doing a triainer BECAUSE i'm such a newbie well - i really like my trainer he's just a very nice guy and he's smart and he knows how to get me to do things i don't want to do without bullying me (that's a genius!!!) i'm very glad that i'm doing it. i've been doing it for two months it cost a lot just now i'm switching from doing 3x per week with him to doing one of those times at the gym by myself i'm glad i did i with him because every time i start working out i get hurt and then i give up i hope that as i transition to doing it myself i will have avoided a lot of injuries and i can go along fairly smoothly felicity > Jack LaLanne recommends those " swing things " too. > He's hanging in there!! > Go, Felicity!! > Would you recommend a personal trainer to newbies? > How are you feeling? > Curious, > M. > > >> >> my trainer has me " warm up " with some big whole body moves like (i'm >> so new and dumb about this stuff) swinging a 20 lb dumbell from >> between my legs to way up while doing a loose up and down squat type >> thingy. What I'm trying to say is cardio isn't the only way to >> warm up. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 hussanfitness.org talks about adding 10 minutes to the end of your HIIT... It would just be 10 minutes at a moderate intensity, so maybe 5 or 6... But don't do anymore than the 3 20 minutes HIIT per week.. cardio warm up before weights >I met with a trainer yesterday to get a BF reading. Gladly it was down 2% > since April 11th and my scale weight is down 4-5lbs. I'm in Week 6 and > really starting to see a difference.and loving it. > > > > He was really impressed that my BF was down, but then started asking me > what > I was doing. He had NEVER heard of BFL. I just assumed everyone knows > about it!! Oh well. He proceeded to tell me that I really should be doing > a > cardio warm-up before weights and that I should be doing at least 30 min > of > cardio on my cardio days. After that he said, " Whatever you're doing is > working " . well, duh! So if it's working then why are telling me to change > it?? > > > > Anyway, I can't help but question his suggestions. Do you think it's > necessary to do a cardio warm-up before weights?? And what about adding 10 > minutes on to HIIT?? Or even just another interval to make it a 25 min > workout instead of 20? I know things are going in the right direction, > but > I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a > little more. know what I mean? > > > > Thoughts? > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Your bf% is down 2% and your scale weight is donw 4-5 pounds in four weeks....why would you question what you are doing? Barbara > > I met with a trainer yesterday to get a BF reading. Gladly it was down 2% > since April 11th and my scale weight is down 4-5lbs. I'm in Week 6 and > really starting to see a difference.and loving it. > > > > He was really impressed that my BF was down, but then started asking me what > I was doing. He had NEVER heard of BFL. I just assumed everyone knows > about it!! Oh well. He proceeded to tell me that I really should be doing a > cardio warm-up before weights and that I should be doing at least 30 min of > cardio on my cardio days. After that he said, " Whatever you're doing is > working " . well, duh! So if it's working then why are telling me to change > it?? > > > > Anyway, I can't help but question his suggestions. Do you think it's > necessary to do a cardio warm-up before weights?? And what about adding 10 > minutes on to HIIT?? Or even just another interval to make it a 25 min > workout instead of 20? I know things are going in the right direction, but > I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with just a > little more. know what I mean? > > > > Thoughts? > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 While that is true, if you are doing the BFL lifting plan the low weight, high rep is to do just that...get the blood moving through the muscles. If you want to od 5-10 minutes of cardio before, that's okay, but I don't think I'd say it was needed. Barbara > > Kate, > The cardio warm up is really just to get the blood flowing to your muscles so they're not cold, it reduces the chance of injury. I usually just do 5-10 min warm up b/c after sitting at a desk all day I feel like I need to get my body moving before I jump into lifting. The extra cardio issue...do you feel yourself sweating 15-20 min after HIIT? it's still working... I'd say if anything add a lunch time or evening walk or cardio at a diff time than your HIIT, that will just rev your metabolism up again. So many of these things are personal preference, you'll probably get lots of input from this board...do what feels right to you and congrats on your progress so far!!! > heather > > > --------------------------------- > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 exactly. i'm quite sure he suggests 10 medium intensity added to the end of your HIIT. Not more HIIT. felicity > hussanfitness.org talks about adding 10 minutes to the end of your > HIIT... > It would just be 10 minutes at a moderate intensity, so maybe 5 or > 6... But > don't do anymore than the 3 20 minutes HIIT per week.. > > > cardio warm up before weights > > >> I met with a trainer yesterday to get a BF reading. Gladly it was >> down 2% >> since April 11th and my scale weight is down 4-5lbs. I'm in Week >> 6 and >> really starting to see a difference.and loving it. >> >> >> >> He was really impressed that my BF was down, but then started >> asking me >> what >> I was doing. He had NEVER heard of BFL. I just assumed everyone >> knows >> about it!! Oh well. He proceeded to tell me that I really should >> be doing >> a >> cardio warm-up before weights and that I should be doing at least >> 30 min >> of >> cardio on my cardio days. After that he said, " Whatever you're >> doing is >> working " . well, duh! So if it's working then why are telling me >> to change >> it?? >> >> >> >> Anyway, I can't help but question his suggestions. Do you think it's >> necessary to do a cardio warm-up before weights?? And what about >> adding 10 >> minutes on to HIIT?? Or even just another interval to make it a >> 25 min >> workout instead of 20? I know things are going in the right >> direction, >> but >> I can't help but wonder if it might happen at a faster rate with >> just a >> little more. know what I mean? >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Kate >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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